High end audio for home theatres Over a $3000 Unit With built in LCD

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Amused

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Originally posted by: FiLeZz
why would I plug anything into my system that was s-video or Composite Video.
Just asking.
Due to I never have.

I always use DVI.
or VGA

Then why buy a preamp with video switching at all? Or at least, without video switching for DVI? Why buy a video switcher with an LCD if you're not going to be running any video through it?

And I still have a non-HD DirecTivo and VCR I need to hook up.
 

FiLeZz

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I just hate watching non high res things on a projector.

It looks all fuzzy.
If I want to watch tivo I do that upstairs.
I pretty much only use the theatre for Movies/HDTV viewing.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: FiLeZz
This is acually an Audio 7.1 processor.. and a audio/HDTV video switcher

So, mine has a 6.1 Processor and HDTV switching...no biggie:D

Bass management adjustable 40/60/80/100/120/150Hz 12dB/octave (2nd order)

Nice bass management

Video bandwidth component <60MHz-3dB

Perhaps I am not reading that right, but that seems a little low for such expensive equipment. Okay, you only have two components so I guess that is fine. Still much cheaper stuff has more bandwidth. Hell, my cheap onkyo has around 50.


Transcoding of composite video to S-Video or S-Video to composite

I am guessing that that last words was meant to be component.


Looks like a nice preamp, but flashly more so that meaty.



Originally posted by: FiLeZz

....and the M&amp;K s150's for my Surrounds.

Mad respect. M&amp;K stuff is killer. I really am not too knowledgable on Fosgate amps though...
 

FiLeZz

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: FiLeZz
This is acually an Audio 7.1 processor.. and a audio/HDTV video switcher

So, mine has a 6.1 Processor and HDTV switching...no biggie:D

Bass management adjustable 40/60/80/100/120/150Hz 12dB/octave (2nd order)

Nice bass management

Video bandwidth component <60MHz-3dB

Perhaps I am not reading that right, but that seems a little low for such expensive equipment. Okay, you only have two components so I guess that is fine. Still much cheaper stuff has more bandwidth. Hell, my cheap onkyo has around 50.


The specs you are reading are on the FAP-t1
They have not posted Specs on the FAP-t1+ as it is really not out yet.

http://www.fosgateaudionics.com/products/index.asp


So we see.
 

Goosemaster

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Basically, for that price you should be getting:

1) sonic madness...a myriad of processors and riciulous specs.
2)gadgets. Hell, if it already has an LCD that sort of puts you in the gadgets demographic. For this price you should at least get network connectivity.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: FiLeZz
I just hate watching non high res things on a projector.

It looks all fuzzy.
If I want to watch tivo I do that upstairs.
I pretty much only use the theatre for Movies/HDTV viewing.


OK, my question stands...

Then why buy a preamp with video switching at all? Or at least, without video switching for DVI? Why buy a video switcher with an LCD if you're not going to be running any video through it?

Seems like a huge waste of money if all you're using is the sound processor. You can buy those alone, you know.
 

FiLeZz

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: FiLeZz
I just hate watching non high res things on a projector.

It looks all fuzzy.
If I want to watch tivo I do that upstairs.
I pretty much only use the theatre for Movies/HDTV viewing.


OK, my question stands...

Then why buy a preamp with video switching at all? Or at least, without video switching for DVI? Why buy a video switcher with an LCD if you're not going to be running any video through it?

Seems like a huge waste of money if all you're using is the sound processor. You can buy those alone, you know.

Maybe I did not relay well enough.
THE FAP-T1+ HAS HDMI THISis DVI

The specs and pictures for the most part are the FAP-T1 Not the FAP-T1+


So the FAP-T1+ does do DVI switching.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: FiLeZz
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: FiLeZz
I just hate watching non high res things on a projector.

It looks all fuzzy.
If I want to watch tivo I do that upstairs.
I pretty much only use the theatre for Movies/HDTV viewing.


OK, my question stands...

Then why buy a preamp with video switching at all? Or at least, without video switching for DVI? Why buy a video switcher with an LCD if you're not going to be running any video through it?

Seems like a huge waste of money if all you're using is the sound processor. You can buy those alone, you know.

Maybe I did not relay well enough.
THE FAP-T1+ HAS HDMI THISis DVI

The specs and pictures for the most part are the FAP-T1 Not the FAP-T1+


So the FAP-T1+ does do DVI switching.

Ah, OK! Forgive my ignorance then. :)

You have to admit it would have been really silly to get that if it only had component switching and you only used DVI. :D
 

FiLeZz

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: FiLeZz
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: FiLeZz
I just hate watching non high res things on a projector.

It looks all fuzzy.
If I want to watch tivo I do that upstairs.
I pretty much only use the theatre for Movies/HDTV viewing.


OK, my question stands...

Then why buy a preamp with video switching at all? Or at least, without video switching for DVI? Why buy a video switcher with an LCD if you're not going to be running any video through it?

Seems like a huge waste of money if all you're using is the sound processor. You can buy those alone, you know.

Maybe I did not relay well enough.
THE FAP-T1+ HAS HDMI THISis DVI

The specs and pictures for the most part are the FAP-T1 Not the FAP-T1+


So the FAP-T1+ does do DVI switching.

Ah, OK! Forgive my ignorance then. :)

You have to admit it would have been really silly to get that if it only had component switching and you only used DVI. :D

Right you are. Right you are.

As for the LCD built on the front, no idea what I will use it for.
Some people use it for security camera monitor.. Bah a waste..
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: FiLeZz
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: FiLeZz
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: FiLeZz
I just hate watching non high res things on a projector.

It looks all fuzzy.
If I want to watch tivo I do that upstairs.
I pretty much only use the theatre for Movies/HDTV viewing.


OK, my question stands...

Then why buy a preamp with video switching at all? Or at least, without video switching for DVI? Why buy a video switcher with an LCD if you're not going to be running any video through it?

Seems like a huge waste of money if all you're using is the sound processor. You can buy those alone, you know.

Maybe I did not relay well enough.
THE FAP-T1+ HAS HDMI THISis DVI

The specs and pictures for the most part are the FAP-T1 Not the FAP-T1+


So the FAP-T1+ does do DVI switching.

Ah, OK! Forgive my ignorance then. :)

You have to admit it would have been really silly to get that if it only had component switching and you only used DVI. :D

Right you are. Right you are.

As for the LCD built on the front, no idea what I will use it for.
Some people use it for security camera monitor.. Bah a waste..

Well, if you have the processor out of site of the monitor, I guess it could come in handy. It also doubles as a readout for doing stuff on the processor, right? It may make things easier to do when you set things up.
 
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Ah, I knew it looked familiar. The CD-750 is a rebranded Infocus model. My work has a LP500 which is the same chassis, but with a 800x600 DMD. If the color wheel and optical system on the LP530 (Infocus version of your projector) is anything like the LP500, then it isn't very suited for a home theater.

Please tell me the projector is next on the list to upgrade!

What size and type of screen are you projecting onto? What is your throw distance? I can think of several models in various price points that would give you an upgrade over the Boxlight.
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: Amused
It's missing the ability to convert composite and S-video to component. Something I like so I can have only one component cable running from my processor to my monitor and use only one input on my monitor.

This is generally not included in most good pre/pro's. There's always a quality hit when you convert, especially compared to dedicated scalers. Practically A/V pre/pro's have video switching though.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: vshah
3x component input?! jeez what do they think you're gonna hook up to this thing!?


nice stuff

-Vivan

3 compent isn't nearly enough.

xbox, ps2, DVD, HTPC, game cube, HD, processor

that's 7 right there.

I use a lowly denon 3802 for processing only. arcam would be next purchase.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Apex
I've read some good things about that Fosgate unit.

I'm using a Lexicon MC-8B, a low/mid end processor (MSRP: $8k). I couldn't justify anything hifi with the amount of time I use my system. I love the way Logic 7 sounds over 5.1 and 6.1 source material, way more than straight DD, DTS processing, or DPLIIx, or THX. I also specifically looked for XLR out, since I wanted to use balanced connections between the pre/pro and my Adcom GFA-7807 7 channel amplifier, as well as Crown K2 subwoofer amplifier. The lower noise floor over standard single ended connections was definitely worth the premium.

Lexicon MC-8B Specs

Lexicon MC-8B Front

Lexicon MC-8B Rear

yeah, I'm kicking myself for not getting the super deals on the HK 8000.

mmmm...logic 7.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: FiLeZz
Originally posted by: richardycc
what are the rest of the system?

I have 2 4100 Fosgate Audionics amps.. I will upgrade these after the Processor to the new 1000.5
5 channle amp.

I also have a 3000 watt Peavey amp running the Subs.
I have 32 12" subs Yes 32 subwoofers.
A DLP projector.

and the M&amp;K s150's for my Surrounds.

a samsung HDtv tunner.

Nice theater, very well done.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
To me it seems silly to spend an extra $2K for only an inifinitesimal sound quality improvement over a Denon 3805 or comparable H-K. But if you've convinced yourself you can hear a difference, enjoy :)

heh, pre-amps have some of the biggest impact in sound...second only to room/speakers.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: Amused
It's missing the ability to convert composite and S-video to component. Something I like so I can have only one component cable running from my processor to my monitor and use only one input on my monitor.

This is generally not included in most good pre/pro's. There's always a quality hit when you convert, especially compared to dedicated scalers. Practically A/V pre/pro's have video switching though.

Wow. I did not know that.
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: Amused
It's missing the ability to convert composite and S-video to component. Something I like so I can have only one component cable running from my processor to my monitor and use only one input on my monitor.

This is generally not included in most good pre/pro's. There's always a quality hit when you convert, especially compared to dedicated scalers. Practically A/V pre/pro's have video switching though.

Wow. I did not know that.

The quality hit is going down, which is a good thing. Direct to your display is still the best, highest quality path though, unless you're doing scaling to match your display's native rate (if applicable).