Apparently, the 7950GT will be priced and perform betwixt the X1950 Pro and XT. Would you get the GT or XT or wait a bit to see if 8000 series models materialize?
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I never knew there was a AGP 7950gt? Unless you talking the Gainward.
Please give me the link or address.
I currently own a 7800GS and have personally decided not to get another AGP card in the future and will instead upgrade to a dual core, PCI-E plataform later this year.
I don't want to pay a premium for inferior cards anymore.
I don't want to pay a premium for inferior cards anymore.
happy medium
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That is exactly what I'm doing. I also have the 7800gs. If the op has a weak card now (9800 pro,6600gt) I would still upgrade depending on his cpu.
This is what I have been trying to get through to AGP users for a long time. It's not about the fact that AGP still isnt a capable bus, it's the fact that you pay more money for less performance compared to PCI-E cards.
Besides, there is no such thing as "high end AGP". The best you're ever going to get is a mid-range card.
apoppin
Lifer
big deal ... still way less than upgrading the entire rig
i might have made a mistake buying my x1950p/512MB for my weak PS and o/c'd 2.80c ... i had an x850xt and a 7800GS that were in the 6-6500 range for 3DMark05
the x1950p got 8,000 ... "so-so" upgrade for that CPU
when i upgraded my [PS and] CPU to P43EE 3.4 @ 3.71Ghz [1:1/stock] - with that same x1950p - it jumped to 9280 .. a pretty solid upgrade over my GS OC score
making it a solidly midrange [plus] rig ... AGP or PCIe
i'd say 'it depends' ... largely on the CPU and your resolution and needs or wants for *detail*
i played thru Fable LC with my x850xt and 7800GS and it was "nice" ... then 2 nights ago, i turned up everything to absolutely *maxed* and 8xAA/16xAF [forced] ... it became a *different game* ... and i stayed up Waay Late ... just admiring it
:heart:
in fact i was *forced* to upgrade to 22" WS
:Q
absolutely "worth it"
:thumbsup:
nitromullet
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So, what you're saying is that with a CPU and video card upgrade you can make your PC get a higher 3DMark05 score? Wow, that sure is news...
apoppin
Lifer
or what?
:Q
it *was* over $1,000.00
originally
i paid $120 brand new ... and i expect to get about $40 for my 2.80c since it is a decent o/c'er...
80 bucks ... cheap upgrade ... it unfettered my x1950p
:thumbsup:
btw, that x1950p is schweet ... i just ain't o/c'ing it ... yet
apoppin
Lifer
as usual
:roll:
3DMark05 tracks the relative changes in a single system very well and gives a score whereby you can somewhat deduce real world advantages in games in changing asingle part
3DMark05 *confirms* what i see [and what i benchmark] while actually PLAYING modern PC games
in this way, i can relate to the more experienced of us here what i am seeing by posting a "score"
i am able to completely *max* all details in all my new games with AA + AF [even in FEAR] at a HIGHER resolution than before ...
so the experience is better
get it now?
or can i get someone else to explain it to you by maybe using a comic book or perhaps drawing you a *picture*
:roll:
nitromullet
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...that's what I was thinking... Every thread with 'AGP' in it turns into a story about how you've upgraded your rig... I'm happy for you, but how many times are you going to post the same story with smileys and everything? Why don't you put your rig and 3DMock score in your sig and be done with it?
apoppin
Lifer
dont read it if you don't like it
wtf are you doing in an AGP thread anyway ... i see your specs in your rig :|
at least my experience relates to the topic
:roll:
instead of crapping on it
:thumbsdown:
i case you *haven't noticed* there are a LOT of threads asking about "High-end AGP"
you are the one out of order
--as usual
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The point was that in order to get the additional gain that you got, you ALSO needed to upgrade the cpu... So, the end result is that by upgrading your components you can build a faster rig, which we all aready knew... What it doesn't do is suggest to the OP what graphics card he should buy to complement his overclocked Prescott.
Auric: To me, based on the benchmarks provided by Paratus in this thread, http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=2017733&enterthread=y it looks like you could get some value out of an overclocked Prescott with an X1950Pro, depending on the games you play. I would stay away from any of the unique Gainward AGP cards because they are generally way over priced though.
Auric: To me, based on the benchmarks provided by Paratus in this thread, http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=2017733&enterthread=y it looks like you could get some value out of an overclocked Prescott with an X1950Pro, depending on the games you play. I would stay away from any of the unique Gainward AGP cards because they are generally way over priced though.
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He has a Prescott...
You have a Northy...
That might explain the score differences at the respective clocks. IIRC, the Prescott was specifically designed to run well above 3GHz, and clock for clock was slower than the Northwoods below that in many tests, but generally faster clock for clock above...
I'm not sure how 3DMark tests the CPU, but you can see in some situations that the Prsecott loses badly to the Northwood at 2.8Ghz, but starts to close the gap again at 3.2GHz, and I imagine (theoretically) would pull way ahead around 4GHz.
http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=1956&p=22
There was a reason that people didn't like Prescott, and it wasn't just the heat...
edit: I looked at your post again, and the above 3GHz theory doesn't hold... Maybe his memory clocks are low, or Northwood is just really better than Prescott...
Good news for you: your fps should be better than his at the same clocks...
edit2: nice work OP. I know this took some time. Respect to anyone who does benches, posts screenies, makes how-tos etc... Your contributions are appreciated.
Is this the same guy? The op was Apoppin
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apoppin
Lifer
glad to see you are now contributing to the topic
yes, my long-winded *experience* confirmed your [and my] point ... that on the CPU 'hangs' the value of the x1950p upgrade
the OP's 3.0E at 3.6 is a healthy O/C and probably close to my own CPU's performance
he can draw his own conclusions
i am not *starting* new threads about my rig ... but whenever i feel my experience is "appropriate" i will chime in ... despite your opinion
i guess there are a LOT who are considering what i already did ... that's "why" the threads are popular and the info gets repeated over-and-over
[i am tired of it also and want to get back to my "new" rig and LCD]
EDIT: Actually Paratus was the OP of that P4/x1950p bottlenecking thread ... he dropped out to play oblivion and i kinda "took over" with my less formal results
Originally posted by: apoppin
big deal ... still way less than upgrading the entire rig
i might have made a mistake buying my x1950p/512MB for my weak PS and o/c'd 2.80c ... i had an x850xt and a 7800GS that were in the 6-6500 range for 3DMark05
the x1950p got 8,000 ... "so-so" upgrade for that CPU
when i upgraded my [PS and] CPU to P43EE 3.4 @ 3.71Ghz [1:1/stock] - with that same x1950p - it jumped to 9280 .. a pretty solid upgrade over my GS OC score
making it a solidly midrange [plus] rig ... AGP or PCIe
i'd say 'it depends' ... largely on the CPU and your resolution and needs or wants for *detail*
i played thru Fable LC with my x850xt and 7800GS and it was "nice" ... then 2 nights ago, i turned up everything to absolutely *maxed* and 8xAA/16xAF [forced] ... it became a *different game* ... and i stayed up Waay Late ... just admiring it
:heart:
in fact i was *forced* to upgrade to 22" WS
:Q
absolutely "worth it"
:thumbsup:
Your thought process is too short term.
You may save money now, but when you keep on buying over priced, under performing AGP cards, you're going to end up losing money in the long term.
If you sold off your cpu, mobo, RAM and video card, I bet you'll find the financial burden would not be as heavy as you think.
happy medium
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Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: apoppin
big deal ... still way less than upgrading the entire rig
i might have made a mistake buying my x1950p/512MB for my weak PS and o/c'd 2.80c ... i had an x850xt and a 7800GS that were in the 6-6500 range for 3DMark05
the x1950p got 8,000 ... "so-so" upgrade for that CPU
when i upgraded my [PS and] CPU to P43EE 3.4 @ 3.71Ghz [1:1/stock] - with that same x1950p - it jumped to 9280 .. a pretty solid upgrade over my GS OC score
making it a solidly midrange [plus] rig ... AGP or PCIe
i'd say 'it depends' ... largely on the CPU and your resolution and needs or wants for *detail*
i played thru Fable LC with my x850xt and 7800GS and it was "nice" ... then 2 nights ago, i turned up everything to absolutely *maxed* and 8xAA/16xAF [forced] ... it became a *different game* ... and i stayed up Waay Late ... just admiring it
:heart:
in fact i was *forced* to upgrade to 22" WS
:Q
absolutely "worth it"
:thumbsup:
Your thought process is too short term.
You may save money now, but when you keep on buying over priced, under performing AGP cards, you're going to end up losing money in the long term.
If you sold off your cpu, mobo, RAM and video card, I bet you'll find the financial burden would not be as heavy as you think.
I think I think more long term and economical . So if I bought a agp x1950xt in 2 weeks I could still play any game you can right. You do have the same card in pci-e. The only difference is when I upgrade I'll do it for half the price and with a quad core cpu. I saved a ton of money on ram to with all the price drops. The 8800gtx will be cheaper as will my pci-e motherboard. I've played every game worth buying in the past year so I didn't miss much and my banks not missing much too. My 230.00$ 7800gs is over a year old even if it was a pci-e card it would be time to replace it anyway. Up until recently you pci-e guys were spending 300.00$ for cpu,250.00$ motherboard,300.00$ for ram,300.00$ for video card and 150.00$ for psu . Thats 1250.00$. I spent 230.00$ last year and 275.00$ (just a guess) for a x1950xt. I got the deal I believe. I don't need a 8800 series just yet.
Originally posted by: happy medium
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: apoppin
big deal ... still way less than upgrading the entire rig
i might have made a mistake buying my x1950p/512MB for my weak PS and o/c'd 2.80c ... i had an x850xt and a 7800GS that were in the 6-6500 range for 3DMark05
the x1950p got 8,000 ... "so-so" upgrade for that CPU
when i upgraded my [PS and] CPU to P43EE 3.4 @ 3.71Ghz [1:1/stock] - with that same x1950p - it jumped to 9280 .. a pretty solid upgrade over my GS OC score
making it a solidly midrange [plus] rig ... AGP or PCIe
i'd say 'it depends' ... largely on the CPU and your resolution and needs or wants for *detail*
i played thru Fable LC with my x850xt and 7800GS and it was "nice" ... then 2 nights ago, i turned up everything to absolutely *maxed* and 8xAA/16xAF [forced] ... it became a *different game* ... and i stayed up Waay Late ... just admiring it
:heart:
in fact i was *forced* to upgrade to 22" WS
:Q
absolutely "worth it"
:thumbsup:
Your thought process is too short term.
You may save money now, but when you keep on buying over priced, under performing AGP cards, you're going to end up losing money in the long term.
If you sold off your cpu, mobo, RAM and video card, I bet you'll find the financial burden would not be as heavy as you think.
I think I think more long term and economical . So if I bought a agp x1950xt in 2 weeks I could still play any game you can right. You do have the same card in pci-e. The only difference is when I upgrade I'll do it for half the price and with a quad core cpu. I saved a ton of money on ram to with all the price drops. The 8800gtx will be cheaper as will my pci-e motherboard. I've played every game worth buying in the past year so I didn't miss much and my banks not missing much too. My 230.00$ 7800gs is over a year old even if it was a pci-e card it would be time to replace it anyway. Up until recently you pci-e guys were spending 300.00$ for cpu,250.00$ motherboard,300.00$ for ram,300.00$ for video card and 150.00$ for psu . Thats 1250.00$. I spent 230.00$ last year and 275.00$ (just a guess) for a x1950xt. I got the deal I believe. I don't need a 8800 series just yet.
I dont understand the difference.
I built this PCI-E rig in the summer of '05. It was considerably cheaper than $1250 too. I spent $400 in '06 on a video card and I'll probably spend another $400 this year.
How is that different than you doing it the reverse? $230 last year, $275 this year and then $1250 somewhere down the line?
The difference is that I have been able to enjoy at least having the OPTION to buy the high end cards and enjoy high end performance. I can choose from any product all the way up and down the product line. You on the other hand are stuck with mid range cards and no choice for anything faster.
I believe I got the deal.
apoppin
Lifer
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: happy medium
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: apoppin
big deal ... still way less than upgrading the entire rig
i might have made a mistake buying my x1950p/512MB for my weak PS and o/c'd 2.80c ... i had an x850xt and a 7800GS that were in the 6-6500 range for 3DMark05
the x1950p got 8,000 ... "so-so" upgrade for that CPU
when i upgraded my [PS and] CPU to P43EE 3.4 @ 3.71Ghz [1:1/stock] - with that same x1950p - it jumped to 9280 .. a pretty solid upgrade over my GS OC score
making it a solidly midrange [plus] rig ... AGP or PCIe
i'd say 'it depends' ... largely on the CPU and your resolution and needs or wants for *detail*
i played thru Fable LC with my x850xt and 7800GS and it was "nice" ... then 2 nights ago, i turned up everything to absolutely *maxed* and 8xAA/16xAF [forced] ... it became a *different game* ... and i stayed up Waay Late ... just admiring it
:heart:
in fact i was *forced* to upgrade to 22" WS
:Q
absolutely "worth it"
:thumbsup:
Your thought process is too short term.
You may save money now, but when you keep on buying over priced, under performing AGP cards, you're going to end up losing money in the long term.
If you sold off your cpu, mobo, RAM and video card, I bet you'll find the financial burden would not be as heavy as you think.
I think I think more long term and economical . So if I bought a agp x1950xt in 2 weeks I could still play any game you can right. You do have the same card in pci-e. The only difference is when I upgrade I'll do it for half the price and with a quad core cpu. I saved a ton of money on ram to with all the price drops. The 8800gtx will be cheaper as will my pci-e motherboard. I've played every game worth buying in the past year so I didn't miss much and my banks not missing much too. My 230.00$ 7800gs is over a year old even if it was a pci-e card it would be time to replace it anyway. Up until recently you pci-e guys were spending 300.00$ for cpu,250.00$ motherboard,300.00$ for ram,300.00$ for video card and 150.00$ for psu . Thats 1250.00$. I spent 230.00$ last year and 275.00$ (just a guess) for a x1950xt. I got the deal I believe. I don't need a 8800 series just yet.
I dont understand the difference.
I built this PCI-E rig in the summer of '05. It was considerably cheaper than $1250 too. I spent $400 in '06 on a video card and I'll probably spend another $400 this year.
How is that different than you doing it the reverse? $230 last year, $275 this year and then $1250 somewhere down the line?
The difference is that I have been able to enjoy at least having the OPTION to buy the high end cards and enjoy high end performance. I can choose from any product all the way up and down the product line. You on the other hand are stuck with mid range cards and no choice for anything faster.
I believe I got the deal.
sure ... paying a premium price buys cutting-edge HW which in turn incurs buggy drivers you minimize and the privilege of testing nvidia's brand new HW for them
be my guest
your illusion of *choice* is also limited by your budget, practical needs and wants
my rig is '04 ... January ... AGP ... ancient in computer years ...
... and i have exactly what i want ... what i planned for --over 3 years ago ... ONE CPU upgrade for net $80 ... one last AGP upgrade for net $150 ... and it looked SO good i got a 22" WS.
what the hell more do *i* need?
None of the current games look *that* much better on your rig on MY LCD at my 14x9 resolution 75hz ... since i can max everything and even add maxed out AA/AF on the games i enjoy
now i expect to upgrade when you do ... only you have spent a hell of a lot more than i did - in the INTERIM - to satisfy you and your more demanding resolutions
[i hope they are much more demanding]
:Q
[i am a pretty cheap date, i guess -compared with you]
NEXT year when you also upgrade, we'll compare rigs ... when the new DX10 games DEMAND it.
[unless i am dead or homeless before then ... who really knows the future?]
:clock: :moon: :sun:
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: happy medium
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: apoppin
big deal ... still way less than upgrading the entire rig
i might have made a mistake buying my x1950p/512MB for my weak PS and o/c'd 2.80c ... i had an x850xt and a 7800GS that were in the 6-6500 range for 3DMark05
the x1950p got 8,000 ... "so-so" upgrade for that CPU
when i upgraded my [PS and] CPU to P43EE 3.4 @ 3.71Ghz [1:1/stock] - with that same x1950p - it jumped to 9280 .. a pretty solid upgrade over my GS OC score
making it a solidly midrange [plus] rig ... AGP or PCIe
i'd say 'it depends' ... largely on the CPU and your resolution and needs or wants for *detail*
i played thru Fable LC with my x850xt and 7800GS and it was "nice" ... then 2 nights ago, i turned up everything to absolutely *maxed* and 8xAA/16xAF [forced] ... it became a *different game* ... and i stayed up Waay Late ... just admiring it
:heart:
in fact i was *forced* to upgrade to 22" WS
:Q
absolutely "worth it"
:thumbsup:
Your thought process is too short term.
You may save money now, but when you keep on buying over priced, under performing AGP cards, you're going to end up losing money in the long term.
If you sold off your cpu, mobo, RAM and video card, I bet you'll find the financial burden would not be as heavy as you think.
I think I think more long term and economical . So if I bought a agp x1950xt in 2 weeks I could still play any game you can right. You do have the same card in pci-e. The only difference is when I upgrade I'll do it for half the price and with a quad core cpu. I saved a ton of money on ram to with all the price drops. The 8800gtx will be cheaper as will my pci-e motherboard. I've played every game worth buying in the past year so I didn't miss much and my banks not missing much too. My 230.00$ 7800gs is over a year old even if it was a pci-e card it would be time to replace it anyway. Up until recently you pci-e guys were spending 300.00$ for cpu,250.00$ motherboard,300.00$ for ram,300.00$ for video card and 150.00$ for psu . Thats 1250.00$. I spent 230.00$ last year and 275.00$ (just a guess) for a x1950xt. I got the deal I believe. I don't need a 8800 series just yet.
I dont understand the difference.
I built this PCI-E rig in the summer of '05. It was considerably cheaper than $1250 too. I spent $400 in '06 on a video card and I'll probably spend another $400 this year.
How is that different than you doing it the reverse? $230 last year, $275 this year and then $1250 somewhere down the line?
The difference is that I have been able to enjoy at least having the OPTION to buy the high end cards and enjoy high end performance. I can choose from any product all the way up and down the product line. You on the other hand are stuck with mid range cards and no choice for anything faster.
I believe I got the deal.
sure ... paying a premium price buys cutting-edge HW which in turn incurs buggy drivers you minimize and the privilege of testing nvidia's brand new HW for them
be my guest
your illusion of *choice* is also limited by your budget, practical needs and wants
my rig is '04 ... January ... AGP ... ancient in computer years ...
... and i have exactly what i want ... what i planned for --over 3 years ago ... ONE CPU upgrade for net $80 ... one last AGP upgrade for net $150 ... and it looked SO good i got a 22" WS.
what the hell more do *i* need?
None of the current games look *that* much better on your rig on MY LCD at my 14x9 resolution 75hz ... since i can max everything and even add maxed out AA/AF on the games i enjoy
now i expect to upgrade when you do ... only you have spent a hell of a lot more than i did - in the INTERIM - to satisfy you and your more demanding resolutions
[i hope they are much more demanding]
:Q
[i am a pretty cheap date, i guess -compared with you]
NEXT year when you also upgrade, we'll compare rigs ... when the new DX10 games DEMAND it.
[unless i am dead or homeless before then ... who really knows the future?]
:clock: :moon: :sun:
ok apoppin. Mid range cards may suit your needs, but even at 1680x1050 some games brought my X1900XTX to its knees with the settings I play at.
For me, the greatest thing about PCI-E is the choices that it gives me. I'm not bound to whatever scraps ATI or Nvidia board partners throw at me.
The way I see it, AGP cards are an entire generation behind PCI-E and the gap is only going to widen.
apoppin
Lifer
that's what *i* said - already ... you play at 16x10 ... i play recently at 14x9 ... before it at 12x9 ... and my pro hasn't struggled in *my* games ... yet
and sure, you are also bound to whatever scraps ATI or Nvidia board partners throw at you ... you just have more scraps
before the gap widens much further, i will close it ... about the time you will AGAIN completely upgrade your system ... i will completely upgrade mine ... and you have and will spend a lot more overall because that's the way you do it
and that's just the way *i* do it
NOT saying my way is "superior" ... i AM saying your way is NOT superior ... it's just *your* way ..
i am ALSO saying it works PERFECTLY for *me* and i am 100% satisfied with my gaming experience since my last mini-upgrade - x1950p/p4EE/OCZ ps.
... and i DO take a little extra satisfaction that i spent a fraction of what you did over the same time period.
and sure, you are also bound to whatever scraps ATI or Nvidia board partners throw at you ... you just have more scraps
before the gap widens much further, i will close it ... about the time you will AGAIN completely upgrade your system ... i will completely upgrade mine ... and you have and will spend a lot more overall because that's the way you do it
and that's just the way *i* do it
NOT saying my way is "superior" ... i AM saying your way is NOT superior ... it's just *your* way ..
i am ALSO saying it works PERFECTLY for *me* and i am 100% satisfied with my gaming experience since my last mini-upgrade - x1950p/p4EE/OCZ ps.
... and i DO take a little extra satisfaction that i spent a fraction of what you did over the same time period.
apoppin,
Your opinion on whether a ocz modstream 450w with 28a on the 12v is sufficient for the x1950p (on a basic comp)?
How is the noise level of your x1950p?
Just speculate if you will- your system at 1280x1024 (my monitor) playing Bioshock and Crysis at full detail, aa, etc.?
The price of the x1950p in, say, four months?
I'm in the same boat as a lot of readers of this forum.
Oh, and Matt, regardless of whether you were right to mock and then critisize appopin- you came off as a jerk to me. Are you sure you want people to view you that way?
Your opinion on whether a ocz modstream 450w with 28a on the 12v is sufficient for the x1950p (on a basic comp)?
How is the noise level of your x1950p?
Just speculate if you will- your system at 1280x1024 (my monitor) playing Bioshock and Crysis at full detail, aa, etc.?
The price of the x1950p in, say, four months?
I'm in the same boat as a lot of readers of this forum.
Oh, and Matt, regardless of whether you were right to mock and then critisize appopin- you came off as a jerk to me. Are you sure you want people to view you that way?
apoppin
Lifer
1. Probably ... but it is the "minimum"
2. noise level is very low ... however, one member reported it as noticeable
3. probably not "full detail"
4. ess than $200 for the 512M ... when the xt comes out in AGP
Matt is NOT a jerk .. he is very and rightly so - proud of his excellent system ... mine is a "pieced together" old AGP rig that managed to survive nicely - partly due to luck ... but i am still proud of her, also.
--- finally ... i am not satisfied with my LCD ... too much money for too little over my CRT [which i got very lucky with for a budget 19"] ... either i am trying a nicer one or just waiting for next gen as i don't want to go 16x10 ... until i upgrade and 14x9 is too few pixels for a WS ... that's why Matt has a much beefier system.
different ways to achieve a similar result ...
we're ALL gonna have to upgrade to play the "full dx10" games that are coming out next year ... beyond Crysis and Bioshock which are mostly DX9.
:Q
edited again
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apoppin
Lifer
it is way low
i tried 5 LCDs in my home and have compared dozens others side-by-side in B&M outlets
[they DO vary -even within the same model ... like CRTs
]anyway, i confused the 16x10 on the 22" with the 14x9 on the 19" WS and kept posting 22" despite *deciding* on 19" WS
my apologies
the 16x10 was very nice for well over $300 ... but a little 'too large' for my nearsighted habits and i didn't want to have to upgrade my video card ... again to xt
so i *settled* on a little $150 cheapie ... 19" WS acer ... it is not as good as my CRT ... not even the best of what i tested ... but offers other advantages and is 'perfect' ... no backlight bleed or dead or stuck pixels ... and the 14x9 vs 12x9 is 'minimal' extra work on my CPU/GPU ... plus it is about the "same size" as my 19" CRT [18" 'viewable' - except not it's WS]
i am using temporal 4xAA and forced 8-16x HQ AF and Fable looks quite different than it did on my x850xt
:thumbsup:
next year ... when i have a "modern" rig ... i will use it as my second monitor ... i really want to wait for next gen LCD to compare and to get a really 'nice' one.
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