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High Court Finds Newzbin Liable For Copyright Infringement

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SunSamurai said:
So a site catagorizing movies into CAM, Screener, Telesync, R5 Retail, Blu-Ray, DVD, HD-DVD DivX, XviD etc was said to participate in copy-write infringement and bent over in court?

SHOCKING!!

The evolution of free software marches on..
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It really isn't shocking. What is was newzbin answers to the court lol.
 
Alienwho said:
As a newzbin user and supporter, after reading the article no sensible person can deny in good conscious that the prosecution nailed this case quite well. Usually you read these kinds of articles and find holes all over and are appalled by how technologically retarded the court process is. They laid out a good case and didn't have to BS and lie their way to it.

Having said that, it doesn't change the fact that newzbin is still nothing but an indexer, and in and of itself doesn't actually do any thing illegal. Can you arrest the guy sitting on the park bench who tells you where the local drug dealer is for a couple of bucks?

And yes the first rule. The prosecution doesn't realize that 99% of people have no idea what newsgroups are, but thanks to a highly publicized case like this, all those people sick of getting the copyright infringement letters in the mail for torrenting are going to find out the joys of SSL .nzb's.
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I am a Newzbin user too. I'm sure this will become another of a list of sites who have to remove the movie/TV listings from their site and who I probably won't suscribe to anymore if it does happen. Screw you Motion Picture protection whores. You think just because somebody posts a movie, we won't go out and buy it anyway? Just another example of the money grubbing whores out there...I'd love to make a quarter of what these guys make.
 
insanity2 said:
I am a Newzbin user too. I'm sure this will become another of a list of sites who have to remove the movie/TV listings from their site and who I probably won't suscribe to anymore if it does happen. Screw you Motion Picture protection whores. You think just because somebody posts a movie, we won't go out and buy it anyway? Just another example of the money grubbing whores out there...I'd love to make a quarter of what these guys make.
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There was a study recently that said pirates buy more stuff than any other customer. I can believe that.
 
LOL @ everyone who is whining, "I deserve free stuff", WTF..Go out and pay for what you want and maybe we'll get back some f-ing bandwith again..
 
BUTCH1 said:
It just seems like a lot of folks want everything without paying for it and let's face it, the major reason some ISP's are implementing or considering useage restrictions is torrents..
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No not even close. They are just greedy and want more money. Linux isos come through torrent a lot.
 
pcslookout said:
No not even close. They are just greedy and want more money. Linux isos come through torrent a lot.
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I love how people always use linux ISO's as an excuse for pirate sites. They probably account for .00003% of downloads form those sites.
 
Mike Gayner said:
FFS I wish people would stop pretending Usenet is some insiders club reserved for the elite/very special. Usenet has been around almost since the beginning of time - it's not new, it's not unknown and you're not special because you've recently started using it.
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Usenet was pretty close to an insiders club for a long, long time. Out of all the ways to download something, it was the oldest and yet the most unwieldy to use. Most people don't want to wrap their heads around how things are distributed on usenet, downloading headers, understanding programs like quickpar and how to deal with corrupt files. Plus you have good and bad news hosters which also limit your availability to the content.

In comparison to xdcc, ftp, http, bt, p2p and all other methods, Usenet was always the pretty little headache. Which made it nice.
 
Kev said:
I love how people always use linux ISO's as an excuse for pirate sites. They probably account for .00003% of downloads form those sites.
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They used to use content not licensed in the US as well. I think like anime can be legally downloaded up until it has a proper functioning US license. But my memory of all that is foggy at best.
 
skace said:
Usenet was pretty close to an insiders club for a long, long time. Out of all the ways to download something, it was the oldest and yet the most unwieldy to use. Most people don't want to wrap their heads around how things are distributed on usenet, downloading headers, understanding programs like quickpar and how to deal with corrupt files. Plus you have good and bad news hosters which also limit your availability to the content.

In comparison to xdcc, ftp, http, bt, p2p and all other methods, Usenet was always the pretty little headache. Which made it nice.
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Not really been knowing about it for at least 5 years +

Yes I know it has been around longer than the internet.
 
The sad thing about usenet is it used to be such a good community. Usenet was originally a place for people to discuss topics a lot like these and other forums. There was probably a group for anything you wanted to discuss . I made a lot of life long friends there. Usenet did something that is sorely lacking on the internet now, it was a focal point. Now people go to a hundred different sites to get information they need on something, before you could go to usenet and pick a group like comp.sys.ibm-pc.games.action and get all the information you wanted about current games and everyone knew it was one place where everyone could gather. A place that no one organization controlled. It also wasn't a place in the beginning where you could just do whatever you wanted. Usenet had a set of very strict rules. Someone could lose their ISP account for misbehaving. Headers on messages linked back to your isp account and anyone could see that you were the one who posted the information. There wasn't the anonymity there is now and I think that is responsible for a lot of the people online now who talk trash and put down others. They can come online and act like jerks because they don't feel responsible for what they do. Eventually what happened is the people that kept usenet under control started to ease up on the rules. Little by little it eroded to the point that it became chaotic and people just got fed up. ISP stopped prosecuting offenders and many stopped hosting servers completely because people left it annoyed by the lack of order. Spammers were everywhere and people running through anonymous servers started posting garbage.


My problem with people who download software, music or anything else is they lack a back bone. They know if something they are downloading is something they did not pay for. There is no right to movies, music or anything else in downloaded content. If someone says "I want $20 for you to see my movie and you have to stand on your head while doing it" nobody has the right to say that they are just going to take it because they don't like the terms. This isn't food or something they need to live. I get so sick of hearing people say that if movies were cheaper, or if they didn't put drm on software they would buy it. Those are the owners terms, it is their property, don't like it, move on. Pirates didn't pay for the content, they didn't produce it so they do not have the right to change the terms. If someone wants to download movie torrents or use newzbin, okay. Just be a man about it and call it for what it is, stealing. Don't say 'I'm downloading this because xxxx excuse", instead just say "I'm taking this because I don't want to pay for it" and stop all the rationalization BS like what you are doing is somehow justified.
 
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Modelworks said:
The sad thing about usenet is it used to be such a good community. Usenet was originally a place for people to discuss topics a lot like these and other forums. There was probably a group for anything you wanted to discuss . I made a lot of life long friends there. Usenet did something that is sorely lacking on the internet now, it was a focal point. Now people go to a hundred different sites to get information they need on something, before you could go to usenet and pick a group like comp.sys.ibm-pc.games.action and get all the information you wanted about current games and everyone knew it was one place where everyone could gather. A place that no one organization controlled. It also wasn't a place in the beginning where you could just do whatever you wanted. Usenet had a set of very strict rules. Someone could lose their ISP account for misbehaving. Headers on messages linked back to your isp account and anyone could see that you were the one who posted the information. There wasn't the anonymity there is now and I think that is responsible for a lot of the people online now who talk trash and put down others. They can come online and act like jerks because they don't feel responsible for what they do. Eventually what happened is the people that kept usenet under control started to ease up on the rules. Little by little it eroded to the point that it became chaotic and people just got fed up. ISP stopped prosecuting offenders and many stopped hosting servers completely because people left it annoyed by the lack of order. Spammers were everywhere and people running through anonymous servers started posting garbage.


My problem with people who download software, music or anything else is they lack a back bone. They know if something they are downloading is something they did not pay for. There is no right to movies, music or anything else in downloaded content. If someone says "I want $20 for you to see my movie and you have to stand on your head while doing it" nobody has the right to say that they are just going to take it because they don't like the terms. This isn't food or something they need to live. I get so sick of hearing people say that if movies were cheaper, or if they didn't put drm on software they would buy it. Those are the owners terms, it is their property, don't like it, move on. Pirates didn't pay for the content, they didn't produce it so they do not have the right to change the terms. If someone wants to download movie torrents or use newzbin, okay. Just be a man about it and call it for what it is, stealing. Don't say 'I'm downloading this because xxxx excuse", instead just say "I'm taking this because I don't want to pay for it" and stop all the rationalization BS like what you are doing is somehow justified.
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I didn't use newsgroups during those times but when I browse them I see about the text groups you are talking about. Sometimes check them out but like you said everyone goes online now so there not very active. Some are still quite helpful though sense I found solutions to problems before with searching through text newsgroups on google.

You also have some important reading to do. Here is a legitimate gamer turned into a pirate. He did everything he was suppose to do and got the run around. http://consumerist.com/2010/04/insane-pc-game-drm-drove-me-to-piracy.html
 
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