Hezbollah pagers explode all over Lebanon injuring 1000s

[MrSquished]

Looking like one of the possible October surprises is Israel expanding their ground war into Lebanon and perhaps other places. Netanyahu is completely trying to influence the election in favor of trump, a fellow shitty human being.

 

[emperus]

Looking like one of the possible October surprises is Israel expanding their ground war into Lebanon and perhaps other places. Netanyahu is completely trying to influence the election in favor of trump, a fellow shitty human being.

I was hoping there was a red line somewhere with Biden. Not sure there is any.
The US has decided to bet all our credibility on the recklessness of Netanyahu.

 

[ivwshane]

So these pagers were actually built with explosives in them? If so then that’s reassuring. I thought they were able to manipulate the software to cause a hardware failure with the battery (think of exploding Samsung phones).

 

[BurnItDwn]

So these pagers were actually built with explosives in them? If so then that’s reassuring. I thought they were able to manipulate the software to cause a hardware failure with the battery (think of exploding Samsung phones).

That is correct. Mossad added PETN into the battery packs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentaerythritol_tetranitrate

 

[Drach]

That is correct. Mossad added PETN into the battery packs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentaerythritol_tetranitrate

Hopefully the same can happen to the Israeli government. Both are rotten to the core.

 

[Jaskalas]

Hopefully the same can happen to the Israeli government. Both are rotten to the core.

Israel faces invasion and bombardment from across the region.

Entire cities in Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran depend on coming to terms with Israel in a manner that does not give their neighbors free reign over them.
Moment their defenses are breached, the massacre of Oct 7th is the result.
Missile defense is insufficient, 60,000 fled their homes, so Hezbollah faces retaliation to force a ceasefire.

If there is a solution to end the violence, a successful attack on Israel is not the one you are looking for.
You cannot force someone to lose a war of defense without facing their nuclear weapons.

 

[ivwshane]

Israel faces invasion and bombardment from across the region.

Entire cities in Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran depend on coming to terms with Israel in a manner that does not give their neighbors free reign over them.
Moment their defenses are breached, the massacre of Oct 7th is the result.
Missile defense is insufficient, 60,000 fled their homes, so Hezbollah faces retaliation to force a ceasefire.

If there is a solution to end the violence, a successful attack on Israel is not the one you are looking for.
You cannot force someone to lose a war of defense without facing their nuclear weapons.

If we had lost all support from our allies in our decision to attack Iraq and as a result the Iraq war quagmire never happened, would that have been better than what did happen?

Our allies should have our back and yet at the same time they should be willing to stand up to us and call us out when we aren’t doing the right thing. Of course that’s easier said than done when in the middle of an election year. We should be willing to do the same.

 

[RnR_au]

If we had lost all support from our allies in our decision to attack Iraq and as a result the Iraq war quagmire never happened, would that have been better than what did happen?

I don't think your White House team at the time would have listened since Rumsfeld is regarded as the worst Secretary of Defense ever.

I don't believe Australia offered its assessment to the White House back in 2003, despite our intelligence services having misgivings about the supplied American intel of weapons of mass destruction. I attended one of the massive protests here at the time, trying to convince the Prime Minister of the day, John Howard, not to go to war in Iraq. There is nothing in our constitution or laws that says that the Prime Minister needs to talk to anyone before going to war. So we went to war.

As an aside, one of the intelligence officers who gave a negative assessment about the American intel from that time is still in our Parliament.

Mr Andrew Wilkie MP

Parliamentarian

www.aph.gov.au

A very decent bloke who keeps getting voted back in 👍

 

[brycejones]

Israel faces invasion and bombardment from across the region.

Entire cities in Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran depend on coming to terms with Israel in a manner that does not give their neighbors free reign over them.
Moment their defenses are breached, the massacre of Oct 7th is the result.
Missile defense is insufficient, 60,000 fled their homes, so Hezbollah faces retaliation to force a ceasefire.

If there is a solution to end the violence, a successful attack on Israel is not the one you are looking for.
You cannot force someone to lose a war of defense without facing their nuclear weapons.

Israel has agency to seek to end the conflicts. It chooses not to under the current government.

October 7th was horrible and unacceptable and just one event in a string of events stretching back almost 80 years. Don't forget that Israel had basically turned Gaza into a hopeless concentration camp with 2 million people in it.

Also they are using the distraction of the current conflict to conduct a slow ethnic cleansing of the West Bank.