Rant Hey Microsoft could please finally give us a proper FILE MANAGER....Signed everyone!

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13Gigatons

13Gigatons

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So tired of how bad explorer is and how integrated it is with Windows.

Example: Set Windows Explorer for Music Folder and saved it. Then went to uninstall some annoying software and the "Programs and Features" were set with the Music Folder layout.
 
brianmanahan

brianmanahan

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give me file manager or give me death!

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LikeLinus

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Explorer is amazing compared to Finder. I do like the large preview sometimes in Finder, but overall, it's far inferior.
 
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ImpulsE69

ImpulsE69

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You say that like you think MS wants you managing your files....pshhh. They would prefer you didn't because you are too dumb to not break something. It's in their ToS somewhere - 'you the user are too stupid and will break things'.
 
IronWing

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13Gigatons said:
So tired of how bad explorer is and how integrated it is with Windows.

Example: Set Windows Explorer for Music Folder and saved it. Then went to uninstall some annoying software and the "Programs and Features" were set with the Music Folder layout.
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When I tell Win Explorer to set every flippin' directory to detailed view, I expect it to set every flippin' directory to detailed view. It pisses me off when I go to another directory and it shows icon view. What part of EVERY FLIPPIN' DIRECTORY did Microsoft not understand? Don't get me started on the stupid "music" view. I want to see my file sizes and dates. "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." You sure as f' can. "Okay, I can do it, but I ain't saving your setting for next time, and I'm going to ignore that whole 'set every directory to detailed view' thing entirely if I happen to find a music file anywhere in your system."
 
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PingSpike

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My favorite explorer bug in Windows 7 at least is that sometimes when you delete a file the view doesn't update say once out of every 50 times or so. Then you'll think "hmm, thought I deleted that" and try to delete it again from the same view whereupon windows gets pissy and informs you rudely that the file you selected from its view was not found and how did you even select it in the first place?
 
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IronWing

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PingSpike said:
My favorite explorer bug in Windows 7 at least is that sometimes when you delete a file the view doesn't update say once out of every 50 times or so. Then you'll think "hmm, thought I deleted that" and try to delete it again from the same view whereupon windows gets pissy and informs you rudely that the file you selected from its view was not found and how did you even select it in the first place?
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This is my bitch from a couple months back:
Win 10 wouldn't let me delete the windows directory off an old drive, said I needed admin permission. I am admin, butt munch. I managed to kill off everything from a CMD prompt except for one flash active control file. "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that." Seriously. With Win Vistas and Win 7, Microsoft thought that it would be a good idea to have secret user accounts (internal operating system agents) tasked for specific purposes and give them file permissions. In this case, the secret agent was tasked with allowing Flash to add shit to an old version of Internet Explorer behind the scenes so that Flash ran correctly without the actual users having to bother our pretty little heads. That version of Flash is long gone, that version of IE is long gone, and that version of Windows is gone yet the secret user still has permissions on the file and an admin can't remove the permissions from the secret user and so can't delete the file. And, since that version of Windows is also gone, there is no way to kill the secret user or commandeer the account long enough to kill the file. Come the nuclear holocaust there will be nothing left of this earth except cockroaches and the file Flash10h.ocx.
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GrumpyMan

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I use Q-Dir myself at home and at work since we have so many servers to move data to through out the day.
 
ElFenix

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IronWing said:
When I tell Win Explorer to set every flippin' directory to detailed view, I expect it to set every flippin' directory to detailed view. It pisses me off when I go to another directory and it shows icon view. What part of EVERY FLIPPIN' DIRECTORY did Microsoft not understand? Don't get me started on the stupid "music" view. I want to see my file sizes and dates. "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." You sure as f' can. "Okay, I can do it, but I ain't saving your setting for next time, and I'm going to ignore that whole 'set every directory to detailed view' thing entirely if I happen to find a music file anywhere in your system."
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at least you can fix this issue by telling windows to stop customizing directory types by deleting some registry keys. there's no way at all to make search go to detailed view by default.
 
IronWing

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BurnItDwn said:
We use a product called "sharepoint" at work. I'm pretty sure it was invented for the sole purpose of cruel and unusual punishments.
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We went to sharepoint a few years ago. It was killed off by popular demand. A few months ago some pinhead convinced management to go back to it. Now management is beginning to remember why they killed it off the first time.
 
Red Squirrel

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Ever since windows 8 came out the Windows UI in general has been horrible. They don't seem to care about usability anymore it's all about trying to follow stupid UI trends that are crap in general. So much white, so much wasted space, everything too big for nothing etc and it's hard to find stuff. You have to hunt for everything because it's not at your fingertips. Absolutely hate dealing with windows 8 or 10.
 
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I really wish there was a way to use labels instead of folders for files in Windows. I don't care how the hell it deals with stuff behind the scenes, but it'd be so nice to be able to assign a file multiple labels. Just like in Gmail. Show me all of Label A and File 1 shows up. Show me all of Label B and File 1 shows up again.
 
mikeymikec

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I think File Explorer is excellent though I do have a few niggles with it such as the one the OP described, as well as this:

Explorer deciding that certain folders are "special": for example, if you run a command like this:
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robocopy C:\users "D:\users backup" /MIR (I'll skip all the other command switches I normally use in a situation like this because they're irrelevant)

What does Explorer end up showing you on D drive? A folder labelled "Users". You have to fire up a command prompt to see the folder's actual name. IIRC the same goes for other "special" folders such as the current user's Documents folder. If someone knows how to stop this from happening (my workaround is to send it to "D:\users backup\users"), I'd very much appreciate knowing the answer! Thanks to this PITA you can easily engineer a situation whereby you open a folder and there are fifteen folders labelled 'Documents' inside.

I'm using Lubuntu and pcmanfm these days, and while it's nowhere near as awful as Finder for OS X, it's not as good as the good points of File Explorer, but it's manageable and I haven't found any hugely annoying quirks of it IIRC.

The bug in Win10 1803's Explorer bugs me to no end as well: At least 75% of the computers I've tried it on, if I get up the Properties of a user's profile folder, I get a vastly different 'size' figure (or 'size on disk') to if I open that folder and select all inside it > Properties (which gives me the correct figure).

I agree with Red Squirrel about the changes in Win8x and Win10 though, the 'folder list' pane seems to have taken a few steps back and therefore stuff is harder to find there. I'm of the opinion that Windows hit its peak with 7.
 
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