Hey mac users

[HAL9000]

You only get 90 days of free tech support via phone and a standard 1 year warranty.

Apple is no different than other manufacturers.. in terms of service.

In my experience I disagree, a problem with any Apple product means I can take it in to any apple store and talk to simpletons that claim to be geniuses that will take it and replace/ repair it for me, quickly and efficiently. Recently I broke my MacBook Air hinge, took it into the Apple Store in Regent Street, 7 days later. Fixed with a new screen cost me nothing.

With dell if the same happens it's a headache.

 

[HAL9000]

I walked into an Apple store, dropped off my Mac Mini for repairs, and picked it up 2 days later.

Friend's iPhone was broken. He walked into an Apple store and 1 hour later walked out with a replacement.

This.

 

[MotionMan]

You only get 90 days of free tech support via phone and a standard 1 year warranty.

Apple is no different than other manufacturers.. in terms of service.

I guess you have never taken a sick Mac (or Apple product) to an Apple Store? I (and others) end up walking out with a new or free/cheap repaired item, regardless of the warranty or service contract.

YMMV (usually depending on how much of an ass you are).

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

I walked into an Apple store, dropped off my Mac Mini for repairs, and picked it up 2 days later.

Friend's iPhone was broken. He walked into an Apple store and 1 hour later walked out with a replacement.

Like I said.

MotionMan

 

[busydude]

IMO, Macs tend to use superior parts (think name-brand RAM vs. generic) and stand behind them. In that sense, yes. MotionMan

My Macbook had an issue with the RAM.. they replaced it for free without any hassle. When I upgraded my 2GB RAM to 4 GB(Aftermarket part).. I noticed that they used refurbished parts(No complaints.. it is mentioned in their TOS).. and the exact same brand that I bought separately for $40.

EDIT: misread.. I agree with on this.

 

[MotionMan]

That's not in my case. My Macbook had an issue with the RAM.. they replaced it for free without any hassle. When I upgraded my 2GB RAM to 4 GB(Aftermarket part).. I noticed that they used refurbished parts(No complaints.. it is mentioned in their TOS).. and the exact same brand that I bought separately for $40.

The original 2GB stick was the $40 brand?

MotionMan

 

[HAL9000]

The original 2GB stick was the $40 brand?

MotionMan

His Edit says he agrees.

 

[Beev]

Honest question because I really don't know: Can you build your own Mac?

 

[busydude]

I guess you have never taken a sick Mac (or Apple product) to an Apple Store? I (and others) end up walking out with a new or free/cheap repaired item, regardless of the warranty or service contract.

As I said they are mostly refurbished. A lot of users suffered due to Nvidia's failing GPU's.. including Macbook users. I am a college student and 70% of my friends own a Macbook. Its been a real PITA due to failing GPU's.. and Apple just replaces the part knowing that they are going to fail again. My lab mate.. sent his Macbook(Late 2008) 5 times due to the same issue.. and they replaced the parts.. but never fixed the issue.

 

[Ns1]

Honest question because I really don't know: Can you build your own Mac?

hackintosh

 

[busydude]

The original 2GB stick was the $40 brand?

Yes.. I bought 4GB(2X2GB) for $40.. and that 2GB(2X1GB) was going for $25.. and it was the same brand(they put in refurbished RAM stick after I had an issue). It was in no way a generic brand, but its not a superior one either.

 

[HAL9000]

Honest question because I really don't know: Can you build your own Mac?

You can, there are two options for you if you choose to go this route, you can build a PC then use a Hackintosh style boot loader to load the operating system, essentially it's a PC with OSX forced to load, by doing this you are reliant on the community for help and any updates could cause issues, you need to try and get each piece of hardware to run for you.

Or you could buy an Apple Logic Board, then add parts to it, you'll then have a Mac, running Mac OSX. (that's what I did).

 

[dank69]

Hey Internet users

loooooooooooooooooool means:

Laughing out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out loud

not that you are laughing more.

lol these days is shorthand for a laugh
loooooooooooooooooool is shorthand for a long drawn out laugh

This daily internet tip for retards is sponsored by common sense. Get yourself some.

 

[HAL9000]

lol these days is shorthand for a laugh
loooooooooooooooooool is shorthand for a long drawn out laugh

This daily internet tip for retards is sponsored by common sense. Get yourself some.

I understand what people think it means, but what it actually means is not that, get some common sense.

 

[Brigandier]

I understand what people think it means, but what it actually means is not that, get some common sense.

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[zerocool84]

Lexus = Mac
Toyota = PC


Under the hood = same, practical application = same, actual user experience/cost = dramatically different

Yeah I could get behind that analogy, but I would do:

Ford = PC
BMW = Mac

One is marketed to everyone.
The other is marketed to those who can afford it as "the ultimate driving machine"

Rightly or wrongly, that equates to Microsoft and Apples marketing.

Actually none of those analogies work as the base Lexus or BMW will have better internals than a middle of the road Ford or Toyota but that's not the case with computers. Your analogy only works as they use low end internals in a pretty case which pretty much is a Lexus anyways.

 

[Ns1]

I picked the Lexus v Toyota example because they use the same core components

 

[HAL9000]

Actually none of those analogies work as the base Lexus or BMW will have better internals than a middle of the road Ford or Toyota but that's not the case with computers. Your analogy only works as they use low end internals in a pretty case which pretty much is a Lexus anyways.

I would argue the analogy holds, as Apple's: Trackpad, Power adapter, OS, and Case are better than others, also EFI>BIOS.

 

[Demo24]

I would argue the analogy holds, as Apple's: Trackpad, Power adapter, OS, and Case are better than others, also EFI>BIOS.

No it doesn't. Those are 'features', which obviously a Lexus would have nicer ones than a Toyota. The basic underpinnings (engine, transmission, chassis, etc) are incredibly similar. Thus the original analogy holds far better.

 

[HAL9000]

No it doesn't. Those are 'features', which obviously a Lexus would have nicer ones than a Toyota. The basic underpinnings (engine, transmission, chassis, etc) are incredibly similar. Thus the original analogy holds far better.

I would equate an Operating System to a gearbox, hardly a feature.

 

[busydude]

Apple's: Trackpad, Power adapter, OS, and Case are better than others, also EFI>BIOS.

Are you talking about the power adapter as a whole or just the magnetic connector?

I loved the concept of magnetic connector.. its innovative and practical. Core components.. I am not sure, but I have never seen any power adapter fail.

Build quality is exceptional.

OS.. I would never in my wildest dreams say Mac OS is better than the rest.

Trackpad is also very good.. but I prefer a dedicated button.. just my personal preference.

EFI is being implemented in non mac based systems too... Apple was not the first to use EFI.

 

[zerocool84]

I would argue the analogy holds, as Apple's: Trackpad, Power adapter, OS, and Case are better than others, also EFI>BIOS.

Power adapter isn't anything special, OSX really is terrible, but I'll give you the trackpad is semi useful but it still isn't not perfect and the unibody cases are pretty good.

 

[HAL9000]

Power adapter isn't anything special, OSX really is terrible, but I'll give you the trackpad is semi useful but it still isn't not perfect and the unibody cases are pretty good.

OK. But to me, The power adapter is the best in it's class, as is the trackpad, and I would pay the premium on Macs just for OSX. Which is IMO the best desktop OS.

 

[zerocool84]

OK. But to me, The power adapter is the best in it's class, as is the trackpad, and I would pay the premium on Macs just for OSX. Which is IMO the best desktop OS.

Well then there ya go, in your opinion.

 

[HAL9000]

Are you talking about the power adapter as a whole or just the magnetic connector?

I loved the concept of magnetic connector.. its innovative and practical. Core components.. I am not sure, but I have never seen a power adapter fail.

Build quality is exceptional.

OS.. I would never in my wildest dreams say Mac OS is better than the rest.

Trackpad is also very good.. but I prefer a dedicated button.. just my personal preference.

EFI is being implemented in non mac based systems too... Apple was not the first to use EFI.

Very true

I was talking about the Magnetic Connector.

Personally I think OS X is the best.