Hey Hollywood, I got an idea to end the longest box-office slump in 20 years!

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gigapet

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or here is another one if they are going to make crappy movies at least lower the friggin price.


people are sick of paying 10 bucks for a sh1tty movie



On demand @ home > $10 for crappy movie plus eleventy billion for jacked up snacks.


the extortion has to end if they want better sales.
 

PawNtheSandman

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1. Stop paying actors such crazy prices.
2. Stop charging $10 for a movie ticket.
3. Ease the standards the MPAA set for ratings on movies.
4. Movie studios need to be more creative, stop making cookie cutter after cookie cutter movie.
5. SEQUALS ARE NOT THE ANSWER!!!
 

irwincur

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People need to konw how the industry works to appreciate who is to blame.

The studios set ticket prices but leasing movies to theaters and taking a progressively smaller cut every week - depending on the movie. Typically a movie has to be a strong seller months after its release (which is rare) for the theater to make a penny on it. For the great majority of movies, they show them at a loss. Just the way it is. The studios are GREEDY.

The theater is forced to make all of its money off of concssions and other stuff like video games, etc... This is why prices are so high. Theaters are not cheap to run as they use a lot of electricity and they require a decent sized staff during peak hours.


This is why theaters are once again going under and consolidating. It is a tough industry, further screwed by the studios and their 'local monopoly' rules. That being, there can only be one prefferred chain in a region. If another comes in, they randomly get assigned movies from the regional pool. If a theater happens to miss two or three major blockbusters - they might as well close their doors. It is a huge gamble to move into a new market. For this reason, growth is slow, and the studios complain because the cost of movies is increasing more than the increase in revenues.


Not to mention, they pay the worthless people I call actors way too much.
 

shud

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Originally posted by: StormRider
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: cjgallen
They'd much rather blame PIRACY.

If the movies suck so badly, why do people pirate them?

True. If movies were really crappy, no one would pirate them. Afterall, have you ever heard of anyone stealing crap from a public restroom?

No, today's movies are still pretty good. I'm still enjoying them. I enjoyed Kung Fu Hustle, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, and Batman Begins so far. If I wasn't so busy and tired lately, I would have watched more. I'm looking forward to seeing Fantastic 4 soon.

True. People expect WAY too much from every movie they see. And others only like comic book movies (AKA retards).

I'm looking forward to seeing Land of the Dead. Why? I want to see zombies eating people and people with guns killing zombies. I don't want to see Eternal Sunshine of the BRAINSSSSS.

I could give a sh!t less about King Kong or whatever, but Underworld: Evolution will get a ticket from me. Kate Beckinsale is awesome and the first one was pretty fvcking good too.
 

RedCOMET

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Originally posted by: Soccer55
I think it's a combination of high ticket prices and crappy movies that is the real problem. If movies were only $5 or $6 a ticket instead of $9, I'd be more willing to go to a theater and see a movie that I'm mildly interested in instead of saying "I'll just wait for it to come out on DVD" or "I'll just wait until it's on HBO". For example, when I, Robot came out, I thought it looked like it would be an ok movie, but I didn't bother seeing it in the theaters. I felt like it wouldn't be worth the $9 to see it in the theaters when I thought it would only be "ok". If I really got the urge to watch it, I could just rent it or borrow it from a friend when it came out on DVD. If movies were around $5 or $6, I probably would have just gone to the theater to see I, Robot.

Instead of wasting their money and resources on the whole piracy thing, the MPAA (and RIAA too for that matter) should stop being so damn greedy, lower their prices for movie tickets (CDs), and embrace the new medium instead of trying to hunt down and prosecute people for piracy. I'd be willing to bet that if they did these things, they'd find that they'd make more money and the whole piracy thing would be less of a problem. Just my $.02

-Tom


I guess an extension to what your are saying, is less lawsuits to stop alledged piraters would definately save them money and help reduce the cost of the end product to the consumer. but that's too easy.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: cjgallen
They'd much rather blame PIRACY.



A convenient scapegoat much like the RIAA blaming downloaders for decreased sales due to the decline of music talent .


Ausm
 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: new2AMD
You mean to tell me The Honeymooners isnt a must see? :D

Didn't you hear. You're supposed to go see it because they replaced the original white actors with black actors! It's kerrrrazy I tell ya! Seriously, I actually read an article suggesting that.

*dumb redneck* Hehehehe them black peoples iz so funny.

It really is true... all the movies lately generally suck.

Havent seen Batman yet....

-Max

 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: Citrix
here is an idea, get the movie theaters to stop charging $9.00+ a fricken ticket. thats why i dont go. i can afford to take me, wife and 3 kids but 40 bucks for tickets is expensive.

I get into theaters for 5 or 6 dollars . . .

In saint louis, with my school ID.

Good for you, now come back when you turn 30, have a wife and a few ankle biters then you can join the rest of us and bitch about the $12.00** tickets you are buying.

**Adjusted for inflation and greed
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: irwincur
People need to konw how the industry works to appreciate who is to blame.

The studios set ticket prices but leasing movies to theaters and taking a progressively smaller cut every week - depending on the movie. Typically a movie has to be a strong seller months after its release (which is rare) for the theater to make a penny on it. For the great majority of movies, they show them at a loss. Just the way it is. The studios are GREEDY.

The theater is forced to make all of its money off of concssions and other stuff like video games, etc... This is why prices are so high. Theaters are not cheap to run as they use a lot of electricity and they require a decent sized staff during peak hours.


This is why theaters are once again going under and consolidating. It is a tough industry, further screwed by the studios and their 'local monopoly' rules. That being, there can only be one prefferred chain in a region. If another comes in, they randomly get assigned movies from the regional pool. If a theater happens to miss two or three major blockbusters - they might as well close their doors. It is a huge gamble to move into a new market. For this reason, growth is slow, and the studios complain because the cost of movies is increasing more than the increase in revenues.


Not to mention, they pay the worthless people I call actors way too much.

That is closer to the truth though it isn't accurate to say that theatres don't make anything off ticket revenue. but it is usually only enough to cover most of the overhead (which is substantial). Last time I checked people don't go into business to break even so that is why concession prices are what they are.

The distributors are greedy and it takes skill end experience for a theatre chain not to get completely raped on the film terms.
 

bob4432

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Sep 6, 2003
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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
All these friggin' remakes are ridiculous. If the original is done well, DONT REMAKE IT! (Example: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)

i just recently viewed the previews and it looked so much like the original i thought the movie industry was pirating...
 

Toasthead

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Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
Originally posted by: Kenazo
I guess they figure if they lose $20million/movie on average, you have to put out 5x as many movies to make money.... :)

your horrible logic made me laugh. :p

hahahahaha
 

StormRider

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Originally posted by: shud
Originally posted by: StormRider
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: cjgallen
They'd much rather blame PIRACY.

If the movies suck so badly, why do people pirate them?

True. If movies were really crappy, no one would pirate them. Afterall, have you ever heard of anyone stealing crap from a public restroom?

No, today's movies are still pretty good. I'm still enjoying them. I enjoyed Kung Fu Hustle, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, and Batman Begins so far. If I wasn't so busy and tired lately, I would have watched more. I'm looking forward to seeing Fantastic 4 soon.

True. People expect WAY too much from every movie they see. And others only like comic book movies (AKA retards).

I'm looking forward to seeing Land of the Dead. Why? I want to see zombies eating people and people with guns killing zombies. I don't want to see Eternal Sunshine of the BRAINSSSSS.

I could give a sh!t less about King Kong or whatever, but Underworld: Evolution will get a ticket from me. Kate Beckinsale is awesome and the first one was pretty fvcking good too.


I thought Underworld was the movie where Kate looked the best I've ever seen her so I'm looking forward to Evolution.
 

StormRider

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Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: cjgallen
They'd much rather blame PIRACY.



A convenient scapegoat much like the RIAA blaming downloaders for decreased sales due to the decline of music talent .


Ausm


Why do people want to download music they don't like?
 

sixone

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May 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: arod
Its that and the fact that theaters suck these days as well... older projectors, piss poor sound, uncomfortable seating (just rundown theaters) and cellphones/crying babies.

You got that right. Rundown, stinky, uncomfortable theaters at $9 a head? Not likely. I'll wait until I can watch it in the comfort of my own home, with my snacks of choice bought at about 1/4 of the theater price. Pause button: priceless.

 

Jawo

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Jun 15, 2005
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Originally posted by: RedCOMET
Originally posted by: Soccer55
I think it's a combination of high ticket prices and crappy movies that is the real problem. If movies were only $5 or $6 a ticket instead of $9, I'd be more willing to go to a theater and see a movie that I'm mildly interested in instead of saying "I'll just wait for it to come out on DVD" or "I'll just wait until it's on HBO". For example, when I, Robot came out, I thought it looked like it would be an ok movie, but I didn't bother seeing it in the theaters. I felt like it wouldn't be worth the $9 to see it in the theaters when I thought it would only be "ok". If I really got the urge to watch it, I could just rent it or borrow it from a friend when it came out on DVD. If movies were around $5 or $6, I probably would have just gone to the theater to see I, Robot.

Instead of wasting their money and resources on the whole piracy thing, the MPAA (and RIAA too for that matter) should stop being so damn greedy, lower their prices for movie tickets (CDs), and embrace the new medium instead of trying to hunt down and prosecute people for piracy. I'd be willing to bet that if they did these things, they'd find that they'd make more money and the whole piracy thing would be less of a problem. Just my $.02

-Tom

I guess an extension to what your are saying, is less lawsuits to stop alledged piraters would definately save them money and help reduce the cost of the end product to the consumer. but that's too easy.

Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: cjgallen
They'd much rather blame PIRACY.

A convenient scapegoat much like the RIAA blaming downloaders for decreased sales due to the decline of music talent .

Ausm

Right on! The RIAA and the MPAA are the biggest !@#$%^& ever, they just use their political might on Capitol Hill to get favorable legislation....never mentioning that they are totally alienating thier prospective customer audience at the same time they are bringing litigation against everyone and their mother. The original Napster was a great distribution system...and the BitTorent Clients are event better....why dont the studios embrace the new technologies? It would reduce overhead (think no warehouses of cds) and would improve customer relations! The studios just need to get a grip with reality.....they would much rather go after everyone because getting $2-3k a settlement is more than the $20 they would get from a cd!
 

GoingUp

Lifer
Jul 31, 2002
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Originally posted by: The Boss
Stop making crappy movies :thumbsup: Honestly, they are complaining about people staying at home rather than going to the theater but what do they expect us to do? Take this week for example: Batman Begins was amazing IMO, but that's it. There are 5 other movies opening this weekend and none of them interest me or anyone I know. Seriously, I feel like this is what the movie industry has been doing for the past 5 years or so... all they do is cry. Come on, there are 52 weekends in a year and just because you come out with 3-4 good ideas a year doesn't mean people are going to go see whatever crap you throw out there.

/End rant.

QFT

Other than war of the worlds and the new star wars movies that were both "meh" at best, I cant think of anything coming out or currently out that I even want to see.

 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Its really no suprise they are suffering.

1) they cant make a orginal movie. they all are re-makes in one way or another.

2) theatres suck. Screaming babies, rude people, crappy food etc.

3) here it is $8.00 a ticket. So to go for me and my wife thats $16.00 off the bat. now throw in $6 for 2 drinks and popcorn its MORE then buying the DVD new. And when they come out 6 months after the theatre i can wait.

I used to go to the movie's all the time. when i could get in for $3-5 i would go at least 3 times a month. Also it seemed they made better movies 10 years ago. The last 3 years its been a bunch of re-makes.

Re-makes are not bad just because they are re-makes. I actually want to see Charly and the chocklet factory (johnny deb looks great in it!). But when they take a idea such as the honeymooners and destroy it i dont want to pay to see it.

Heck i would like to see movies such as Deathrace 2000, soylent green and clash of the titans re-made with updated effects. BUT dont change the story!
 

Chadder007

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Im tired of freaking paying 8.50 a person to see a movie when I can rent it for sooo much cheaper per household.
 

phantom309

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: arod
Its that and the fact that theaters suck these days as well... older projectors, piss poor sound, uncomfortable seating (just rundown theaters) and cellphones/crying babies.

Its so much better to watch a DVD (and soon to hd HD-DVD/blueray) on my projector than it is to go to the local cinema. I probably will only see 2 flicks this summer (batman and war of the worlds). Everything else I can wait until DVD comes out.

Not just cellphones and crying babies, but retarded fvcking adults who shouldn't let themselves go out in public.
I think people have forgotten how to conduct themselves in a movie theater these days. There's always seven or eight people at every showing who just sit there and talk like they were in their living room. And in the Midwest, there are these people who have to verbalize everything they see on the screen..
"Hehe - he's got a bullet-proof vest."
"Hehe - that truck's gonna blow up."
"Hehe - Yoda's gonna fight that guy."

 

MisfitsFiend

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Jun 19, 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by: chuckywang

quote:
Originally posted by: Citrix
here is an idea, get the movie theaters to stop charging $9.00+ a fricken ticket. thats why i dont go. i can afford to take me, wife and 3 kids but 40 bucks for tickets is expensive.



QFT!!



Or stop living in an area that charges that much...wtf.

That is a good reason right there to relocate...right...

It costs $9.75 a ticket by me in Chicago, plus $7-$10 parking in most theaters by me. For me, it really isn't worth it to spend $30 + popcorn = $40. to see a mediocre movie...

But I love where I live, and if it means I don't go to the movies as much, so be it! I would much rather to to the lake for a bikeride or to watch a tennis match, softball game, etc than sit in a stuffy theater...