Hey guys. im new here and would like some help.

[jdogess]

ahhh....
thats good to know, ty

ill spend around 2,000 then on my new comp. thoughthis will be my first time making a computer so how long do u think it will take me?

 

[Stokes]

Originally posted by: jdogess
ahhh....
thats good to know, ty

ill spend around 2,000 then on my new comp. thoughthis will be my first time making a computer so how long do u think it will take me?

If this is your first time building a computer. I STRONGLY suggest (if you haven't already). Open up your current computer and look at things inside, follow wires from different parts of the computer and see where they are going to in the motherboard. I remember way way back in school our computer class was: "here are some 486's, take them a part and put them back together." It is what got me into building computers in the first place.

After you get a good idea I suggest looking at the overclocking thread in the CPU forum. Now, I never saw where you said you were 13, but, some of the information may confuse you on overclocking and although the guide is very well written in CPU forum for AMD 64's. It may be over your head, not trying to degrade you at all, just I was 13 once as well.

Now to your question. My last computer I built, once I had all the parts only took me an hour or two to piece together. The long part is installing software, drivers, and getting everything up and running and making sure everything is smooth. That probably will take a good few hours. After you have everything installed and ready to go game. This is the point where you should look to overclock if you are (I do not if I can suggest it to someone who has no experience building a PC, and I don't have a real good link to a newbie's guide to newbie overclocking (not trying to be sarcastic) ). So how long will the entire process take? anywhere from a day to even a week, depending on how much time you put into it.

As far as people being rude here. it's one issue that this forum has. A lot of people are very helpful, but a lot of people see new people and just roll their eyes because they have to keep responding to threads about the same thing over and over. Although, I can understand with them, they really need to lighten up. This is an excellent place to build and learn about computer parts, but it's horrible for newcomers who want to learn, and put up a thread before reading previous ones.

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

Jdogess, if you want to be more respected by the community here, maybe you should change your signature... It just makes you seem immature. $2000 isn't even needed for a good rig. I myself would never even think of building a computer over $1500 (including monitor). I mean, if you can play Doom 3 on a Radeon 9550, why spend an extra $400 for an x800 XT PE just to look at prettier water

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: wallsfd949
Why do you think you're going to get a different response by cross posting the same question in several forums. original thread. Welcome to the forums. You may wish to take the time to learn some forum etiquite which would include not cross posting and using proper grammer. Posting like a third grader (see your 1st thread) is a good way to get ignored and flamed.

You mentioned in your 1st thread that your dad wants you to "learn all about computers". Wouldn't a gaming computer be counter productive to that?

I'm sorry, I suggested that he move the question over to general hardware because it was his first post before and I didn't think he was going to get a lot of opinions in technical support.

jdogess, I'm sorry you met some a$$hats here in general hardware. I guess if you want some serious responses, give up on this one and stick to the tech support thread.

OR, he could not write things like "mosue".

 

[imported_Tick]

Here:

Linky

Best newbie computer building book EVA!

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: Stokes

Originally posted by: jdogess
ahhh....
thats good to know, ty

ill spend around 2,000 then on my new comp. thoughthis will be my first time making a computer so how long do u think it will take me?

If this is your first time building a computer. I STRONGLY suggest (if you haven't already). Open up your current computer and look at things inside, follow wires from different parts of the computer and see where they are going to in the motherboard. I remember way way back in school our computer class was: "here are some 486's, take them a part and put them back together." It is what got me into building computers in the first place.

After you get a good idea I suggest looking at the overclocking thread in the CPU forum. Now, I never saw where you said you were 13, but, some of the information may confuse you on overclocking and although the guide is very well written in CPU forum for AMD 64's. It may be over your head, not trying to degrade you at all, just I was 13 once as well.

Now to your question. My last computer I built, once I had all the parts only took me an hour or two to piece together. The long part is installing software, drivers, and getting everything up and running and making sure everything is smooth. That probably will take a good few hours. After you have everything installed and ready to go game. This is the point where you should look to overclock if you are (I do not if I can suggest it to someone who has no experience building a PC, and I don't have a real good link to a newbie's guide to newbie overclocking (not trying to be sarcastic) ). So how long will the entire process take? anywhere from a day to even a week, depending on how much time you put into it.

As far as people being rude here. it's one issue that this forum has. A lot of people are very helpful, but a lot of people see new people and just roll their eyes because they have to keep responding to threads about the same thing over and over. Although, I can understand with them, they really need to lighten up. This is an excellent place to build and learn about computer parts, but it's horrible for newcomers who want to learn, and put up a thread before reading previous ones.

Agreed, I supose.

 

[jdogess]

k, my dads gonna get his very old computer out of our garage and im gonna take that one apart.

thanks for the advice strokes.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: wallsfd949
Why do you think you're going to get a different response by cross posting the same question in several forums. original thread. Welcome to the forums. You may wish to take the time to learn some forum etiquite which would include not cross posting and using proper grammer. Posting like a third grader (see your 1st thread) is a good way to get ignored and flamed.

You mentioned in your 1st thread that your dad wants you to "learn all about computers". Wouldn't a gaming computer be counter productive to that?

I'm sorry, I suggested that he move the question over to general hardware because it was his first post before and I didn't think he was going to get a lot of opinions in technical support.

jdogess, I'm sorry you met some a$$hats here in general hardware. I guess if you want some serious responses, give up on this one and stick to the tech support thread.

OR, he could not write things like "mosue".

Yeah, inverting two letters is waaay worse than intentionally typing "EVA!" to mean ever in the post you made after this comment... :roll:

 

[jdogess]

ok so far im going to get a CASE (http://www.xoxide.com/xopacl1.html
OCZ powerstream 600W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi...ry=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

ZALMAN CPU FAN (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118113

 

[the wombat]

Oh my...that case...Well, if you like it, i guess it's okay. But, I think I remember reading somewhere that acrylic is bad at heat dissipation or something like that and aluminum or steel cases could keep components cooler.

I would reccommend configuring the core components you want to get and then basing your power supply decision on that.

Do you know anyone that has built a computer before? If so, it might be a good idea to ask for some guidance. I know that I would have loved for someone to help me build my machine. But, alas, my parents were out and I was bored and all the components were in my room, just begging to be screwed together. Anyways I was 14 when I built my machine (I still am, too.) so I wouldn't put it past you to do a fine job building, but now that I look back on it I would have loved for someone to help me out.

Good luck, and remember to check out mechBgon's system building guide, it saved my life. (Well, not really...)

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: wallsfd949
Why do you think you're going to get a different response by cross posting the same question in several forums. original thread. Welcome to the forums. You may wish to take the time to learn some forum etiquite which would include not cross posting and using proper grammer. Posting like a third grader (see your 1st thread) is a good way to get ignored and flamed.

You mentioned in your 1st thread that your dad wants you to "learn all about computers". Wouldn't a gaming computer be counter productive to that?

I'm sorry, I suggested that he move the question over to general hardware because it was his first post before and I didn't think he was going to get a lot of opinions in technical support.

jdogess, I'm sorry you met some a$$hats here in general hardware. I guess if you want some serious responses, give up on this one and stick to the tech support thread.

OR, he could not write things like "mosue".

Yeah, inverting two letters is waaay worse than intentionally typing "EVA!" to mean ever in the post you made after this comment... :roll:

It's what we call deliberate...

 

[Addikt]

Cut down your quoting...second he knew it was deliberate and was commenting on how passe the term "eva" is...using words like that, although cool at the time they were invented are now viewed as desparate attempts to gain popularity. These days however they can and usually result in you being cast out from the "cool" crowd...

Overexplained...yes, but it sounds like you might be in need of such detail.

 

[Stokes]

Originally posted by: jdogess
ok so far im going to get a CASE (http://www.xoxide.com/xopacl1.html
OCZ powerstream 600W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi...ry=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

ZALMAN CPU FAN (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118113

Let's see... first on the case, if you like it go for it, but one thing you will really need to consider is noise level. I know my second built PC, which I'm using now, is loud as hell, and after having it for two years, I'm ready to build a much quieter PC so I really kept noise into consideration. Many people will disagree or say differently, but, buy the case you want, and then put quiet components in it, especially watch out for the power supply, fans, hardrive, and cd-roms, including video card fans. I think I found in my case that my PSU fan is the loudest of them all.

If you like spending more money then you have to on a PSU you picked it. 600W!!! thats a lot of power to have sitting around and doing nothing. Even if you are going SLI and extreme overclocking, which I hope you are not on the second one. That 600W will be more then enough.Although you picked a good brand, I really have to suggest the one I will be purchasing. 430W Seasonic, they are regarded as top of the line when it comes to sound and power efficeny. The other thing I like about it, is that it has a temperature sensor in the PSU so, when things start to heat up it will up that fan's speed, but it will never really go that high or loud enough to make you want to turn it down.

http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/products_id/246

You got a good selection though for your heatsink/fan for your CPU. The only other one's I would suggest would be the XP-90 or XP-120 (getting the 120 myself), but you have to buy a fan seperate. The Zalman is highly regarded as top of the line as well for air cooling. One thing I cannot vouch for is the sound level of this particular one. I've heard that, that fan can get loud at times. Mostly because you let the motherboard handle the fan speed and mother knows best so she likes to keep that CPU cool.

Other then that, I think you got a good selection. I still don't know about that case selection, to me it doesn't look that great and I bet noise wise it's one of the worst. If you aren't completely set on that case, then I would look around for some other ones, seems like you want to see whats going on in the inside so you should look for a window case. Head down to the cases forum and see what people have built or use now.

btw, its Stokes, not Strokes

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Tick

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: wallsfd949
Why do you think you're going to get a different response by cross posting the same question in several forums. original thread. Welcome to the forums. You may wish to take the time to learn some forum etiquite which would include not cross posting and using proper grammer. Posting like a third grader (see your 1st thread) is a good way to get ignored and flamed.

You mentioned in your 1st thread that your dad wants you to "learn all about computers". Wouldn't a gaming computer be counter productive to that?

I'm sorry, I suggested that he move the question over to general hardware because it was his first post before and I didn't think he was going to get a lot of opinions in technical support.

jdogess, I'm sorry you met some a$$hats here in general hardware. I guess if you want some serious responses, give up on this one and stick to the tech support thread.

OR, he could not write things like "mosue".

Yeah, inverting two letters is waaay worse than intentionally typing "EVA!" to mean ever in the post you made after this comment... :roll:

It's what we call deliberate...

intentionally is what we call a synonym for deliberate...

 

[Thug Esquire]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..where can I get a mosue??..and mabe even a keyborad??

That was a winner. I'm still laughing.

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
intentionally is what we call a synonym for deliberate...

You mean "intentionally" is a synonym for "deliberately."
Yeah, grammar's a cold fish.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Thug Esquire

Originally posted by: IGBT
..where can I get a mosue??..and mabe even a keyborad??

That was a winner. I'm still laughing.

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
intentionally is what we call a synonym for deliberate...

You mean "intentionally" is a synonym for "deliberately."
Yeah, grammar's a cold fish.

I decided I'd use his exact word he typed rather than changing it to an adverb, but I did realize that before posting

EDIT: I'm going to stop being an a$$ now. Sorry I've filled this thread with useless crap.

 

[krcat1]

If you are after a gaming rig, there are three things you should look at:

A Venice core AMD CPU, probably a 3500.

A high-end Video card, at minimum a 6800gt or a X800.

A higher-end monitor, a large LCD that can handle gameplay without ghosting.

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: jdogess
Hey peoples i would like some help on getting a list of computer gaming parts to put together under $3,000. i already have a montior, mosue and keyborad.


i think im going to also get the AMD athlon fx-57 in june. thouhg i think ill be able to spend $3,500 on it.

Thanks.

Dude, stop wasting 3500 dollars. You can get a GREAT computer with 1500. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not spend 3500 on a computer..
Here's some suggestions:

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice
OCZ Powerstream 520W
DFI LanParty Ultra D
BFG Geforce 6800GT
Cooler Master Stacker
1 or 2 GB PC3200 RAM (Geil, OCZ, Corsair are some that come to mind)
NEC 3500A DVD-RW Drive
Floppy Drive (or 7-in-1 card readers)
74GB WD Raptor
200GB Seagate 7200.8
Another optical DVD drive or another NEC 3500A

That should run you about 2000 dollars. You can get a similar system (ie runs games perfectly fine) for 1500.

 

[jdogess]

Well i really actually dont care to much about the noise. Though i read in a magazine that the drivers are the loudest and you would have to screw down the drives to keep them form makeing noise.

 

[imported_Kensai]

You should always screw your drives down.. Unless they're on rails.. If the drive vibrates too much, you could lose it.

 

[jdogess]

hey taejin are all those parts compatible?

and im sure im not gonna spend 3,500 on a comp not that i;ve talked to you guys. thanks.

 

[ed21x]

1500 should be more than adequate. Heck, give http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/ ashot before considering building one yourself, as they seem to fit your needs perfectly. Just remember... right now, the biggest bottleneck in most computer systems is amount of ram followed by not having a RAID array to speed up access to HD.

 

[jdogess]