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Hey guys i'm buying this bike **PIC**

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Yep it's home, I can't wait to ride it 🙂

I got a nice deal on it too for $3k, the bike is basically brand new & not even broken in yet

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Did the original owner just decide to give up riding ("freak out" near-incident)? That is a very good deal with virtually no miles on it.

Nice bike, good choice for a beginner.
 
JulesMaximus said:
Congrats! That is a great beginner bike, you'll have a lot of fun on it and when you're ready to move up you'll be glad you didn't start out on something with a lot of power.
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haha i let my bro ride my 750 when i first taught him how to ride, he hit the throttle so hard it jumped out from under him and left him on the ground. i made him repaint the bike after that. when he recovered from that shock, he realized why i made him learn on an old cb350 before he could take out the big ones. ill never forget the look on his face as he spun backwards off the seat.
 
I bought the bike from a private owner. He said he just doesn't ride it at all once he bought it so he want to get rid of it. He still owed $3580 on it but willing to sell it to me for $3k. Lol it seemed so fishy but I went through with the deal. It's alright though because my bank gave his bank the money directly so no cash involved.

His bank will then send the title to my bank in a couple of days. Until then I can register it.

I got a steal too for only $3k and 117 miles. Not even broken in.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
Totally 100% false. I don't have the time to school you like the others, but this is stupid advice.


Your best bet is to start small and plan on moving up (GS500/Ninja 250/500).


That being said, unless you're <160lbs or so I'd get a GS500 or Ninja 500. Just plan on selling it in a year if it's not big enough.

One problem you'll have is getting that $3k back out of the bike.



You have much better choices in bikes than vacuums lol 🙂
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No, it's not false, it's an opinion. Also, I didn't advise anyone else to do it, I said I did it and there is nothing wrong with it. Please try to understand what I've said before reacting to it.
 
I am one of those guys who is terrified of bikes. But damn, that really makes me want to go out and buy one. That looks sick for $3k.
 
Greenman said:
No, it's not false, it's an opinion. Also, I didn't advise anyone else to do it, I said I did it and there is nothing wrong with it. Please try to understand what I've said before reacting to it.
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No, it's not an opinion. There are tons of statistics about this.. And I did understand what you said... Another poster mentioned the frustration of people starting out on liter bikes, you replied to comment that you were one of those guys and there's nothing wrong with it.


I've seen it every spring for almost 10 years, and I'm sick of seeing new riders in caskets and wheelchairs. Just because one person slips by without dropping a liter bike doesn't mean it's then ok to recommend others do the same. All of the forums are full of idiots like this who end up posting WTB threads for fairings when they drop their shiny new bike. Others end up scaring themselves and sell it.

Remember that on a bike ALL odds are against you. You should do anything you can to unstack them if you don't want to be another statistic - i.e. full gear, start on a 500 and work up, MSF/ERC, etc etc etc.


IMO it is flat out fscked up for an experienced rider to insinuate that it's okay for a new rider to start out on a supersport.



/lunchrantoff
 
KnightBreed said:
Nothing? Actually there is a very distinct reason why people suggest starting out on a cheap, low powered beater. But I'm sure you've heard it all before. No point in hijacking the thread about it.

To the OP, congrats on the pickup. The new 250R is a nice looking bike. I wish Kawi gave the U.S. market the fuel injected engine that's used in the overseas markets. The extra few horsepower would suit this bike better.
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the 2010 model was given a significant overhaul (or was that 2008->2009?)

in any event, the ninja250 is a great starter bike. grats OP!
 
Why is the tachometer so small and set off to the left? Most bikes the tach is the largest gauge and features most prominently.

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Fenixgoon said:
the 2010 model was given a significant overhaul (or was that 2008->2009?)

in any event, the ninja250 is a great starter bike. grats OP!
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It was the 2007 going to 2008 model year that they gave it a major overhaul to look like a super sport bike. At the same time they raised the price from $3k to $3.5k msrp and has increased that price to $4299 now.

$3k in 2007
$4.3k in 2010
 
JulesMaximus said:
Why is the tachometer so small and set off to the left? Most bikes the tach is the largest gauge and features most prominently.

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Only 'track bikes' (i.e. supersports) have such a large tach in proportion to other gauges..

I guess the SV also has a large tach, although it isn't a supersport. Most 'regular' bikes have the same size speedo and tach though..
 
SpatiallyAware said:
Only 'track bikes' (i.e. supersports) have such a large tach in proportion to other gauges..

I guess the SV also has a large tach, although it isn't a supersport. Most 'regular' bikes have the same size speedo and tach though..
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You know there are plenty of people who race the SV right?
 
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You know there are plenty of people who race the SV right?
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Yes, I'm extremely familiar..


There are plenty of people that race GS500s too, it doesn't make them a supersport.. and those zumas... and all kinds of other crazy crap gets raced


In the case of the SV I can understand why they have the larger tach but few bikes are in that sort of class (basically a budget streetbike that is easily modifiable to corner, Suzuki is catering to a certain "market" here...)


....without sending this thread down the tubes, do understand that an SV is nowhere near a 'real' supersport... 180 rear, USD forks, total lack of suspension adjustments (save preload in the rear/rebound in front)

Don't get me wrong, they're fantastic bikes (I've owned both a 1st and 2nd gen, and a TL).. But they definitely aren't designed even for track duty.




Alllllllllllll of that being said, I still don't feel like they're very good starter bikes unless you're tall or heavy.

Edited: I believe 2nd gen also had front rebound adjustment
 
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SpatiallyAware said:
Yes, I'm extremely familiar..


There are plenty of people that race GS500s too, it doesn't make them a supersport.. and those zumas... and all kinds of other crazy crap gets raced


In the case of the SV I can understand why they have the larger tach but few bikes are in that sort of class (basically a budget streetbike that is easily modifiable to corner, Suzuki is catering to a certain "market" here...)


....without sending this thread down the tubes, do understand that an SV is nowhere near a 'real' supersport... 180 rear, USD forks, total lack of suspension adjustments (save preload in the rear/rebound in front)

Don't get me wrong, they're fantastic bikes (I've owned both a 1st and 2nd gen, and a TL).. But they definitely aren't designed even for track duty.




Alllllllllllll of that being said, I still don't feel like they're very good starter bikes unless you're tall or heavy.

Edited: I believe 2nd gen also had front rebound adjustment
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All valid points, except for the 180 rear tire point...not sure what that has to do with anything when it comes to getting around a tight twisty track quickly.

And, for the record, I never said the SV was a supersport...it's not.

As for suspension, there are many options available for improving the stock suspension and once that is done you have a bike that is very capable for the street or the race track. It's not that the stock suspension is that bad, it's just soft and doesn't really give you any adjustability. It is perfectly fine for a lightweight rider who doesn't push the bike to the extreme. The chassis is excellent though, the brakes are adequate and the engine has enough hp and torque to hang with the big boys on a twisty road.

I also don't believe the SV is a very good starter bike. Mine wasn't my first bike but after 2 years and 12,000 miles of ownership I can honestly say that it still puts a big smile on my face when I go ride it in the canyons. I met up with the San Diego Sport Bike meetup group a couple weeks ago and rode up Palomar Mountain with them. I was the ONLY one not riding a super sport but I was the second one to arrive at Mothers at the top out of 13 bikes. Granted we weren't racing but we were definitely having a lot of fun. 😛

But enough about the SV. I now return this thread to its original owner. 😀
 
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JulesMaximus said:
All valid points, except for the 180 rear tire point...not sure what that has to do with anything when it comes to getting around a tight twisty track quickly.

And, for the record, I never said the SV was a supersport...it's not.

As for suspension, there are many options available for improving the stock suspension and once that is done you have a bike that is very capable for the street or the race track. It's not that the stock suspension is that bad, it's just soft and doesn't really give you any adjustability. It is perfectly fine for a lightweight rider who doesn't push the bike to the extreme. The chassis is excellent though, the brakes are adequate and the engine has enough hp and torque to hang with the big boys on a twisty road.

I also don't believe the SV is a very good starter bike. Mine wasn't my first bike but after 2 years and 12,000 miles of ownership I can honestly say that it still puts a big smile on my face when I go ride it in the canyons. I met up with the San Diego Sport Bike meetup group a couple weeks ago and rode up Palomar Mountain with them. I was the ONLY one not riding a super sport but I was the second one to arrive at Mothers at the top out of 13 bikes. Granted we weren't racing but we were definitely having a lot of fun. 😛

But enough about the SV. I now return this thread to its original owner. 😀
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Hey he's gone for now, I'm sure he won't mind... Plus I love debating bikes!

You quoted my post about the SV not being a supersport, thus prompting the entire discussion 🙂



The SV is a fantastic "step-up" bike. IMO it's perfect for the rider who has spent 1-2 years on something smaller and is interested in moving up to a supersport.
At the same time it's perfect for the commuting casual canyon carver who is content with the power/suspension but isn't planning on improving their cornering skills or doing trackdays.

With a fast rider it's a very capable machine and will most definitely outrun most people on 600's you see up in the mountains. Many 600 riders would probably be faster on a stock SV


...But...

It is no match whatsoever for someone who really knows how to ride a 600.. I'm not talking about the goofballs wearing jeans and lofting up the front at every straight either..


Please don't take this the wrong way, but you will get to a point where you're frustrated with the fading brakes, subpar suspension, crap tire selection (used to be difficult to find good rubber in 160), timid rake angle, and lack of leaning clearance. It sounds like you're already faster than your buddies on 600's...

When that happens, I hope you don't drop money on an ebay gsx-r fork/triples and used rear shock - just buy a supersport, they're not that expensive.. An f4i is just as comfy and about $1000 more..

Plus a large part of the fun is the whole selling/buying cycle.. Although I really wish I hadn't sold my first 'real' streetbike (1989 GS500, Pearl White with white wheels...)
 
SpatiallyAware said:
Yes, I'm extremely familiar..


There are plenty of people that race GS500s too, it doesn't make them a supersport.. and those zumas... and all kinds of other crazy crap gets raced


In the case of the SV I can understand why they have the larger tach but few bikes are in that sort of class (basically a budget streetbike that is easily modifiable to corner, Suzuki is catering to a certain "market" here...)


....without sending this thread down the tubes, do understand that an SV is nowhere near a 'real' supersport... 180 rear, USD forks, total lack of suspension adjustments (save preload in the rear/rebound in front)

Don't get me wrong, they're fantastic bikes (I've owned both a 1st and 2nd gen, and a TL).. But they definitely aren't designed even for track duty.




Alllllllllllll of that being said, I still don't feel like they're very good starter bikes unless you're tall or heavy.

Edited: I believe 2nd gen also had front rebound adjustment
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The S models have more adjustment than that. I have a 2003 SV1000S.

Stock suspension is lacking, but its not THAT great on the stock GSXR's either. The 1000's got the same brakes as the GSRX that all the 650 guys upgrade too.

but its def not a 'supersport'

I could barely keep up with 600SS's on the SV1K down the straight at a trackday
 
I wouldn't have paid $3k for that.

Why? Because it's almost exactly the same bike that Kawasaki was making in 1987. The differences? Mostly cosmetic.
 
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