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dainthomas

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Dec 7, 2004
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Originally posted by: Crow550
I live in the woods and trying to use an indoor antenna with DTV. Sucks. Time to invest in an outdoor antenna and get it put up. Allot of people will be pissed when once the fuzzy channels they got and were happy with will be replaced with freezing, stuttering channels from poor signal. In fact I know a few people who only get like Channel 13. So hopefully this all gets worked out and once analog is off, the digital stations signals will get turned up. Just expect to hear allot of pissed off people after June 12th.

Are they so broke they can't afford $10/mo for Dish's basic package?

 

tk149

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Crow550
I live in the woods and trying to use an indoor antenna with DTV. Sucks. Time to invest in an outdoor antenna and get it put up. Allot of people will be pissed when once the fuzzy channels they got and were happy with will be replaced with freezing, stuttering channels from poor signal. In fact I know a few people who only get like Channel 13. So hopefully this all gets worked out and once analog is off, the digital stations signals will get turned up. Just expect to hear allot of pissed off people after June 12th.

Are they so broke they can't afford $10/mo for Dish's basic package?

I did a quick Google search and only found that price valid for the first six months (and requires a 24-month commitment). What about after the introductory 6 month price expires?

Charter liked to pull the "6 month package price deal" on me, and then notify me AFTER the deal expired that my bill was going up. I got sick of that and of them. I guess I wasn't the only one, because now they're bankrupt.
 

Modelworks

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Feb 22, 2007
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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Crow550
I live in the woods and trying to use an indoor antenna with DTV. Sucks. Time to invest in an outdoor antenna and get it put up. Allot of people will be pissed when once the fuzzy channels they got and were happy with will be replaced with freezing, stuttering channels from poor signal. In fact I know a few people who only get like Channel 13. So hopefully this all gets worked out and once analog is off, the digital stations signals will get turned up. Just expect to hear allot of pissed off people after June 12th.

Are they so broke they can't afford $10/mo for Dish's basic package?



$10 a month ?you need to look again.

I am not totally against the switch to DTV. I am against how it is being done though. There are millions of people that will no longer be able to get tv after the switch. There are two problems with DTV.

It is all or nothing. You can receive it at 20 miles and then not be able to view anything at 20.5 miles. With analog you might get a snowy picture , but you could still watch tv.

It is eliminating lower frequency usage for tv. Notice how often the term "Freeing up frequencies for other uses" is used to sell DTV. Guess who the major players are for those frequencies ? AT&T, Sprint, Verizon. They want it to expand their data services. So consumers that once got use of that spectrum for free will now have to pay to benefit from it.

If they had kept the lower VHF and switched to DTV, then the people that can't get DTV now would likely be able to still get a picture. VHF was used for tv because it goes much further than UHF. So now you have lots of people, many on low incomes, that will get nothing . If they want tv they will have to either pay satellite, cable, or spend hundreds of dollars to erect a outdoor antenna.

Another example of corporate America at work.



 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
people that complain at this point should go on some kind of list...
this list should be public.

id put my name on that list just to see if any of you big talkers had the balls to come over.


i have digital cable in most of the house, basic on a few tvs as well. i have 2 digital tvs and 5 older analogs. im not concerned at all about it, and if people dont realize by now things are changing, they wont care after the fact either.
 

hanoverphist

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Dec 7, 2006
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Originally posted by: Muadib

Many Dish commercials, or just commercials in general about the switch? I've seen hundreds of commercials about the switch, just none from Directv explaining that if you have sat tv, you are good, or would be good if you joined.

the local news covers this regularly here, as does cox cable.
 

ghostman

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: princess ida
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
no investment...
http://blog.makezine.com/archi..._antenna_steadyca.html
just make one

This is great! Even though I have great reception with rabbit ears, I still want to make one of these.

yeah it actually works pretty well

Be aware that the antenna design in that link is good at picking up UHF signals, but not particularly good at picking up VHF signals. After the switch, depending on your location, some channels may remain in VHF. In NYC, I believe 3 major channels will still be VHF.

And that design is a copy of the popular Antenna Direct DB-4 antenna (or ChannelMaster 4221). In case you want to buy it, you can Google for those names.

I did a lot (A LOT) of research about antennas when I was looking for an outdoor antenna for my roof. I even made my own DB-2 antenna (similar to the DB-4, but weaker and with only two bowties), which turned out to be worse than a Silver Sensor indoor antenna. This UHF design is definitely popular, but I ultimately went with a traditional yagi (fish bone) antenna that supported VHF, UHF and FM.
 

CRXican

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Jun 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
people that complain at this point should go on some kind of list...
this list should be public.

id put my name on that list just to see if any of you big talkers had the balls to come over.


i have digital cable in most of the house, basic on a few tvs as well. i have 2 digital tvs and 5 older analogs. im not concerned at all about it, and if people dont realize by now things are changing, they wont care after the fact either.

I'd come over just to make sure you haven't fallen and broken your hip.

Anyone on that list better not be under the age of like 75
 

lupi

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Apr 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Crow550
I live in the woods and trying to use an indoor antenna with DTV. Sucks. Time to invest in an outdoor antenna and get it put up. Allot of people will be pissed when once the fuzzy channels they got and were happy with will be replaced with freezing, stuttering channels from poor signal. In fact I know a few people who only get like Channel 13. So hopefully this all gets worked out and once analog is off, the digital stations signals will get turned up. Just expect to hear allot of pissed off people after June 12th.

Are they so broke they can't afford $10/mo for Dish's basic package?



$10 a month ?you need to look again.

I am not totally against the switch to DTV. I am against how it is being done though. There are millions of people that will no longer be able to get tv after the switch. There are two problems with DTV.

It is all or nothing. You can receive it at 20 miles and then not be able to view anything at 20.5 miles. With analog you might get a snowy picture , but you could still watch tv.

It is eliminating lower frequency usage for tv. Notice how often the term "Freeing up frequencies for other uses" is used to sell DTV. Guess who the major players are for those frequencies ? AT&T, Sprint, Verizon. They want it to expand their data services. So consumers that once got use of that spectrum for free will now have to pay to benefit from it.

If they had kept the lower VHF and switched to DTV, then the people that can't get DTV now would likely be able to still get a picture. VHF was used for tv because it goes much further than UHF. So now you have lots of people, many on low incomes, that will get nothing . If they want tv they will have to either pay satellite, cable, or spend hundreds of dollars to erect a outdoor antenna.

Another example of corporate America at work.

You do realize those evil corporate bastards paid a lot of money to the government for the rights to those spectrums and they still have the possibility of doing things like providing free wifi internet to the poor and rural and whatever else the fcc may think of.