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hanoverphist

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i like how if you have reader installed and install pro over it, when reader automatically updates it crushes pro distiller/ print driver.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Adobe apps have always been shit. When you work with them as a client, you realise why.

Adobe > Quark.
Adobe > Macromedia.
Adobe > Corel.

From a user's perspective, anyway.

quark was the schiznit in its day. pagemaker did pass it up tho. corel has good tools, and was actually easier to manipulate than illustrator and pagemaker. macromedia blows adobe away IMO. but im biased, i liked dreamweaver and director. thing that pissed me off about corel is them buying fractal painter and pretty much destroying one of the coolest art programs around.
 

BrownTown

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Adobe Acrobat is a total piece of shit so far as I am concerned, i will be jsut going on clicking links and stuff while listening to music or doign other work, and suddenly BOOM everything freezes because you accidentally clicked on a link to Adobe Acrobat and now its not gonna let you do a damn thing until it starts up. It was far worse on my 56k though, if you accidentally clicked a link ot a pdf and it was more than 1MB you might as well just restart your computer because it was gonna take longer to try to wrest control back from Acrobat than to try and restart the whole computer.

Does this still happen on dual cores? I would image it would just rape one of your cores and leave the other to do usefull stuff, but who knows, maybe they just make a multithreaded version to be twice as slow and just as annooying.
 

rivan

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Yeah, other than Photoshop, the rest of their products can talk a walk.

Illustrator? InDesign? They're both very stable are two of my primary tools. They're pretty industry-specific though. Flash is an Adobe product now, too.

I imagine PageMaker is probably still decent too, if it's even still around... used that back in HS to put together the school paper. Things like that get a bye since they just bought them :p

PageMaker got phased out for InDesign, a completely new products designed to (*and successful at) kill Quark. They took what they learned from PageMaker, some of the best bits of Illustrator and built InDesign. Incredible publishing tool.

Illustrator's been uber since about version 5.5.

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
i like how if you have reader installed and install pro over it, when reader automatically updates it crushes pro distiller/ print driver.

Didn't realize it did - but it doesn't surprise me. Reader's really a POS.

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
quark was the schiznit in its day. pagemaker did pass it up tho. corel has good tools, and was actually easier to manipulate than illustrator and pagemaker. macromedia blows adobe away IMO. but im biased, i liked dreamweaver and director. thing that pissed me off about corel is them buying fractal painter and pretty much destroying one of the coolest art programs around.

PageMaker kinda kept up with Quark, but only barely - InDesign really pulled far ahead after v1. Quark really sucked if you ever had to call them for *any* sort of support.

Corel had some fair ideas over the years, but their implementations left a lot to be desired. Their output files (for print) were horriffic especially if you tried using any of the transparency effects. I agree about Painter - that was a great app.

I can't agree with you about macromedia - but again, I'm coming from a print perspective - Freehand was just never quite up to snuff. I know plenty of people who swore by it though.

 

FeuerFrei

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So that explains why Acrobat Reader keeps nagging me about upgrading despite the fact I downloaded and "installed" the most recent version. I skipped a couple versions. Now I'll have to check and see what version I DO have.
 
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If there is another software company besides Adobe that has consistently brought so little to the table in each new version at such an outrageous fee, hopefully I never have to use their product.