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He's lying because he's Canadian and gay!

Czar

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OMG the humanity


a rather disgusting work from the white house, and Drudge for using it
 

bandana163

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There are two USs in the list...
My zip code would surely help them a lot. Time for some people to change the daily newspaper.

Who figured this idiotic sheet out, anyway? I bet they will see a lot of visitors from Zimbabwe and Papua New Guinea...
 

sMiLeYz

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Yesterday Drudge told us he was unaware of the ABC story until "someone from the White House communications shop tipped me to it" along with a profile of Kofman in the gay-oriented magazine the Advocate. On Wednesday, for 6 hours 38 minutes, the Drudge Report bannered Kofman's widely quoted ABC story -- in which enlisted people questioned the Army's credibility and one irked soldier went on camera to call on Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to resign -- and linked to the Advocate piece with the understated headline "ABC NEWS REPORTER WHO FILED TROOP COMPLAINT STORY IS CANADIAN."
Hahhahahahahahhahaha...

0oo0o0o0o hes... gay... and Canadian!

I think this has gone far beyond disgusting deep into the realm of stupidity. But you know how the conservatives work. Can't handle the truth... SMEER SMEER SMEER. :D

I'm still waiting for someone to mention Clinton.
 

mrbentley

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Australian Broadcasting Corporation
LATELINE
Late night news & current affairs
Transcript
Real Video
Broadcast: 16/07/2003
The White House keeps trying but it still can't get past the criticism over intelligence used to make the case for war with Iraq. American soldiers in the country are also stuck. For them, the consequences could be deadly. There's now word one key division will likely have to stay in the country for much longer than initially thought, as US forces struggle to maintain control.


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Compere: Tony Jones
Reporter: Norman Hermant



TONY JONES: The White House keeps trying but it still can't get past the criticism over intelligence used to make the case for war with Iraq.

American soldiers in the country are also stuck.

For them, the consequences could be deadly.

There's now word one key division will likely have to stay in the country for much longer than initially thought, as US forces struggle to maintain control.

It's a role that is increasingly dangerous and today at least one more American soldier was killed in an attack outside of Baghdad.

Norman Hermant reports NORMAN HERMANT: This is what the fighting looks like now in Iraq.

A bomb and rockets ripped into this US convoy.

An unseen enemy willing one American soldier, wounding two others.

These are the kinds of attacks troops here have come to dread.

Divisions like the 3rd Infantry, that led the advance on Baghdad, want out.

They were supposed to begin leaving at the start of this month.

Now there's word their pullout is on hold, possibly until September or longer.

The toll on these soldiers is starting to show.

SERGEANT ERIC WRIGHT, US 3RD INFANTRY DIVISION: They're exhausted -- they are mentally and physically exhausted -- to the point that some would hope that they get wounded so that they can go home.

Well, just, hey, shoot me, I wanna go home.


NORMAN HERMANT: The troops who came to liberate Iraq are now seen by many in the country as occupiers.

After this latest attack in a pro-Saddam area, the local population cheered as the Americans carried away a dead comrade.

US SOLDIER: I used to wanna help these people and now I don't really care about 'em anymore.

I've seen so much -- you know, little kids throwing rocks at you.

And once you pacify an area, it seems like the area you just came from turns bad again.

NORMAN HERMANT: Even developments hailed by the US as progress are not without their detractors.

In Basra and in Baghdad, thousands of protesters marched to demand the Iraqi National Council, appointed only three days ago, be disbanded.

The political pressure is still on at the White House, but there is one change.

The man who for so long was the face of the Bush Administration, Ari Fleischer, has stepped aside.

The new White House spokesman spent his first day beating back more charges about President George W.

Bush and discredited claims Iraq tried to buy uranium in Africa.

SCOTT McLELLAN, WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN: Well, let's put this in perspective.

This issue relates to the threat that Saddam Hussein and his regime posed to the region, to his people and to the world.

And the statement in the State of the Union was one piece of one part of a much larger body of evidence.

NORMAN HERMANT: The White House wants to move on.

But today even former Australian intelligence official Andrew Wilkie was in Washington strengthening the case for the administration's critics.

ANDREW WILKIE, FORMER ONA ANALYST: My own PM has said that he believes Australians have moved on.

And your President has claimed that the matter is closed.

I find statements like that, from the senior leadership of the two countries, as incredibly arrogant.

NORMAN HERMANT: In the US, anti-war groups have now taken to the airwaves.

TV ADVERTISEMENT: Now's there's evidence we were misled and almost every day, Americans are dying in Iraq.

We need the truth, not a cover-up.

NORMAN HERMANT: The President is taking a beating in the media.

But even though his poll numbers are down, a majority of Americans still say George Bush made his case that the war in Iraq was justified.


Norman Hermant, Lateline.
 

tcsenter

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There were complainers in WWII, as well, though I'm sure not quite as many since people just didn't join the military "to get college money" or "to see and do interesting things" until very recently. It was pretty much understood: military = travel to far-off foreign clusterf-cks to shoot and be shot at for many months at a time.

I actually think they should offer anyone who doesn't want to be in Iraq rides home and 'other than honorable' discharges from the military immediately upon returning. It is simply amazing what one incessantly bitching and complaining person can do to morale.

I worked with a guy whose entire waking life involved complaining about something. If it wasn't the company, it was the boss, or his pay, or rich people, or politicians, or the cops, or the heat, or his wife, or his father-in-law, or his brothers, or the cable company, or one of the other shifts not doing their job, or some driver. Every f-cking day we came to work that guy was bitching about something. When someone called in sick, he bitched about it for an hour and talked bad about them. When someone went on vacation, he bitched about them being gone. When he finally quit, it was as though we had all been given 200% raises and a two hour lunch break. Morale shot up dramatically. We all went around for the next couple weeks saying to each other:

"Man, it seems awfully quiet in here for some reason."

"Yeah, that's because asshat isn't here pissing and moaning about everything."

"Oh yeah, kinda nice, ain't it?"
 

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