Heroin usage in America-an eye opener

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I heard this news story on NPR this morning, claiming an alarming increase in heroin usage among white teenagers and saying South Boston was an epicenter of this epidemic. Is this true or just an alarmist story? I can't believe kids these days are still stupid enough to fool around with heroin-people have been dying from it, or AIDS, for years.

Here is a link to the story:
NPR Heroin Story
 

waylman

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kids doing drugs...*shocking*
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aswedc

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I live in a white suburban school district thats known for having a problem with softer drugs, and as far as I can tell no heroin usage (if it was more than a couple people I'd know). Probably alarmist based on one or two cases. What kid of kid who uses heroin is going to talk seriously to the media about it?
 

JDub02

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Heroin is getting to be a very serious problem in my home town. It's killed a few people I know .. and a few more are nothing more than vegetables .. they get their daily shot of methadone or whatever that stuff is and lay around the house.

I know a few state troopers and have said a few times that it's getting to be a problem.
 

kranky

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I guarantee you it's not "alarmist". I have a friend who is in charge of a detox/rehab ward at a hospital. It has 40 beds and she told me just yesterday that at any given time, about a third of the guests are white suburbanite teens and are there due to either heroin or crack.

Remember, these are just the ones who got found out. In her estimation, there are 500 undetected users for every person who ends up in the hospital. The ones she sees either got caught by the cops, were taken to the ER after an overdose, or their parents found out and checked them in.

Heroin use is absolutely growing among teens in white suburbia. They go down to the "bad areas" of town to pick up their drugs so they can play gangsta for ten minutes, and impress their friends with their mastery of H.

Of course, later on they get hooked and drop out, and no one ever sees them again. That's why the suburbanites don't know what's going on, because nothing visible is happening under their noses. The pushers aren't standing outside the Starbucks, their homes aren't being burglarized, their cars aren't being stolen, and there's no gunfire in their streets.
 

Eli

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It sucks.

But it isn't the drugs fault. We need to get out of the mentality that controlling the drug will control it's usage. Obviously, that's far from the truth. When will we learn?

Haven't we learned that by controlling the drug(aka, prescriptions), you at least have a better start on controlling usage?

If you make it commercially available, prices come down, and people no longer go to the streets to get it. That also has the effect of taking the money out of drug dealers hands, and putting it into the pockets of the users so they are less likely to commit violent crimes to get their fix.

Are the people running the drug war completely blind, or what?

E D U C A T I O N is the key to drug use prevention. That means the truth. Not lies and bullsh!t.
 

GRIFFIN1

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They should force kids to watch Requiem for a Dream every six months starting in the 6th grade.
 

MithShrike

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Yeah, I don't doubt that the use of hard rugs is growing. However, by me the drug of choice is G, Ice, Glass, Crystal, or if you want to call it what they do on the news, methamphetamines.
 

Arkitech

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Originally posted by: Eli
It sucks.

But it isn't the drugs fault. We need to get out of the mentality that controlling the drug will control it's usage. Obviously, that's far from the truth. When will we learn?

Haven't we learned that by controlling the drug(aka, prescriptions), you at least have a better start on controlling usage?

If you make it commercially available, prices come down, and people no longer go to the streets to get it. That also has the effect of taking the money out of drug dealers hands, and putting it into the pockets of the users so they are less likely to commit violent crimes to get their fix.

Are the people running the drug war completely blind, or what?

E D U C A T I O N is the key to drug use prevention. That means the truth. Not lies and bullsh!t.

Well said. For America to be such an advanced nation it's amazing how some of the most simple problems are still mushrooming into epidemics.
 

Arkitech

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Originally posted by: GRIFFIN1
They should force kids to watch Requiem for a Dream every six months starting in the 6th grade.

That movie was a total trip. I still cringe when I think about the scene when that kid injected heroin into that nasty looking sore on his arm.
 

tnitsuj

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I have an idea. If you are drug user and you bring yourself to a point where you are committing crimes/disturbing the public order/or otherwise becoming a drain/danger to society, we execute you.

Simple, lethal injection and the problem is solved. If you can use drugs without making a nuisance of yourself..well then that's all good.
 

upsciLLion

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Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: GRIFFIN1
They should force kids to watch Requiem for a Dream every six months starting in the 6th grade.

That movie was a total trip. I still cringe when I think about the scene when that kid injected heroin into that nasty looking sore on his arm.

My manhood shrivels at the thought of that scene. :(
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: Eli
It sucks.

But it isn't the drugs fault. We need to get out of the mentality that controlling the drug will control it's usage. Obviously, that's far from the truth. When will we learn?

Haven't we learned that by controlling the drug(aka, prescriptions), you at least have a better start on controlling usage?

If you make it commercially available, prices come down, and people no longer go to the streets to get it. That also has the effect of taking the money out of drug dealers hands, and putting it into the pockets of the users so they are less likely to commit violent crimes to get their fix.

Are the people running the drug war completely blind, or what?

E D U C A T I O N is the key to drug use prevention. That means the truth. Not lies and bullsh!t.

While this may work in theory, and possible in practice with softer drugs, I don't see how legalizing hard drugs like Heroine would reduce the problem of people using it and dying from it, even if it can be regulated and controlled.
 

amoeba

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Originally posted by: beer
This same thing happened ten years ago in Plano, and we made MTV. Nothing has changed since then. Every generation has done an equal amount of hard drugs, who cares if it's acid or heroin?

Stupid media.

A good read: http://www.peele.net/lib/heroinoverdose.html


Hey beer, I come from Plano. Although I don't think it was 10 years, more like 5 or 6.
 

amnesiac

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My brother died last year from heroin. It's horrible stuff.

And to anyone who thinks that addiction is due to people being "weak" then you've obviously never personally dealt with the matter, so STFU.
 

lokiju

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I know someone that died from a Heroin OD. Not that I was close with him or anything but he was a decent person before getting all caught up in that stuff. I sure am glad I never went that path.
 

clamum

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Eli
It sucks.

But it isn't the drugs fault. We need to get out of the mentality that controlling the drug will control it's usage. Obviously, that's far from the truth. When will we learn?

Haven't we learned that by controlling the drug(aka, prescriptions), you at least have a better start on controlling usage?

If you make it commercially available, prices come down, and people no longer go to the streets to get it. That also has the effect of taking the money out of drug dealers hands, and putting it into the pockets of the users so they are less likely to commit violent crimes to get their fix.

Are the people running the drug war completely blind, or what?

E D U C A T I O N is the key to drug use prevention. That means the truth. Not lies and bullsh!t.

While this may work in theory, and possible in practice with softer drugs, I don't see how legalizing hard drugs like Heroine would reduce the problem of people using it and dying from it, even if it can be regulated and controlled.

Why not?
 

AvesPKS

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Originally posted by: amnesiac
My brother died last year from heroin. It's horrible stuff.

And to anyone who thinks that addiction is due to people being "weak" then you've obviously never personally dealt with the matter, so STFU.

What else could it be? I refuse to believe that it's a disease.
 

burnedout

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I also heard the same story on NPR this morning. $4 for a hit. Wow. This is really a tragedy and definitely deserves some attention.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: amnesiac
My brother died last year from heroin. It's horrible stuff.

And to anyone who thinks that addiction is due to people being "weak" then you've obviously never personally dealt with the matter, so STFU.

What else could it be? I refuse to believe that it's a disease.

You have a degree in medicine, drug addiction therapy, or psychology?
 

AvesPKS

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: amnesiac
My brother died last year from heroin. It's horrible stuff.

And to anyone who thinks that addiction is due to people being "weak" then you've obviously never personally dealt with the matter, so STFU.

What else could it be? I refuse to believe that it's a disease.

You have a degree in medicine, drug addiction therapy, or psychology?

No. But I have just as much first hand experience to assert that this is not due to a disease.
 

TommyVercetti

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It only matters when suburban white kids are doing it. Fvk them other minority kids. Let them die and sh!t, it will be better for our precious suburban white kids
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PHiuR

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Eli
It sucks.

But it isn't the drugs fault. We need to get out of the mentality that controlling the drug will control it's usage. Obviously, that's far from the truth. When will we learn?

Haven't we learned that by controlling the drug(aka, prescriptions), you at least have a better start on controlling usage?

If you make it commercially available, prices come down, and people no longer go to the streets to get it. That also has the effect of taking the money out of drug dealers hands, and putting it into the pockets of the users so they are less likely to commit violent crimes to get their fix.

Are the people running the drug war completely blind, or what?

E D U C A T I O N is the key to drug use prevention. That means the truth. Not lies and bullsh!t.

While this may work in theory, and possible in practice with softer drugs, I don't see how legalizing hard drugs like Heroine would reduce the problem of people using it and dying from it, even if it can be regulated and controlled.


agree wit him ^...softer drugs..legaize it..but harder drugs...dont sell it over the counter...