HEROES: "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World"

[UNCjigga]

So I caught up to Heroes on DVR last night, and man was I floored when Hiro came back from the future to find Peter! I did watch the episode preview for next week (maybe I shouldn't--spoilers?) and the whole "save the cheerleader, save the world" thing confused me.

Here's my running theory (which is probably very wrong):
Since we know very little about Sylar, I'm assuming from the evidence that "it" can absorb the powers of its victims by consuming their brains. We also saw Isaac paint a scene where Claire is running from a menacing shadow, which I assume to be Sylar. So its safe to guess Claire might be Sylar's next target. I think I know why Hiro's come back to warn Peter--if Sylar "consumes" Claire, then he'll get her regenerative powers and will be MUCH harder to defeat. Claire's also a useful asset for the "good side" with her abilities, and I assume Peter could also use her regenerative power if he's near her.

But here's my dilemma--we saw Matt Parkman (LA cop) shoot Sylar and the bullets had no effect. So does Sylar already have regenerative abilities? If so, why else might Claire be so important?

 

[mflacy]

Hiro went all Ninja Gaiden in Smurfville at the end. That was truely badass.

I think everyone is confused on the Cheerleader thing. My guess is that keeping her alive changes some future event, perhaps the NY bombing.

All I know is that I'm ready to see Pete fly.

 

[TXHokie]

Obviously the fact that she can't be killed makes her the most powerful among the Heroes.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mflacy
Hiro went all Ninja Gaiden in Smurfville at the end. That was truely badass.

I think everyone is confused on the Cheerleader thing. My guess is that keeping her alive changes some future event, perhaps the NY bombing.

All I know is that I'm ready to see Pete fly.

Pete probably isn't going to fly.

His brother was abducted in the last episode and has the true power of flight. Peter has the power of mimicry.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: TXHokie
Obviously the fact that she can't be killed makes her the most powerful among the Heroes.

How? She's still a weak little cheerleader. Yeah she can heal but it wouldn't take much to subdue her.

I'm guessing it has more to do with her evil father and whatever group he is with.

 

[Baked]

I'm trying to figure out who is Sylar. And if there's a connection between Sylar and Claire's "dad." I need to watch episode 4 later this week.

 

[zoiks]

Were they able to reach Mordor?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: mflacy
Hiro went all Ninja Gaiden in Smurfville at the end. That was truely badass.

I think everyone is confused on the Cheerleader thing. My guess is that keeping her alive changes some future event, perhaps the NY bombing.

All I know is that I'm ready to see Pete fly.

and his engrish went to english.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: TXHokie
Obviously the fact that she can't be killed makes her the most powerful among the Heroes.

How? She's still a weak little cheerleader. Yeah she can heal but it wouldn't take much to subdue her.

I'm guessing it has more to do with her evil father and whatever group he is with.

She can put herself into situations that others can't. Say one of the Heroes is in mortal peril? If the damage is not too severe (for example, decapitation would kill her most likely) she'd be able to save them. Bullets, fires, I'm guessing loss of limbs/extremities, blunt force trauma, etc are all things she should be able to sustain.

Also, because of her ability to recover from damage, she may be the only one to be able to stand up against Sylar and live. We already know Sylar has mental abilities and something similar to Claire's recovery ability (all those shots realistically should've put him down if not). The situation with Matt doesn't count because he caught Sylar off guard. If it was one on one (like with the black dude) Matt would've been in deep sh!t.

Out of the good Heroes, we have a guy who can fly, a guy who can hear people's thoughts, a schizo, a guy who can stop time (time travel/teleportation eventually, but as of now he can't control it properly), a guy who needs to get fvcked up to paint the future, a boy genius (I still believe Micah is going to be a Hero), and the invincible girl.

As of right now, I'd put her powers as the most useful/powerful, with Hiro's surpassing it once he can properly control his powers. Nathan's power of flight is cool and all, but I don't see too many cases of it being ultimately useful. The schizo I don't see as that special, the future telling ability is useful, but not as useful as it could be. Micah might suprise all of us and be the most valuable Hero of them all (if that's where they take his character).

 

[mb]

Well, she can sort of be killed... or stopped at least... chop her head off and destroy it or jam something in her brain and lock her up. When she had the branch in her head she wasn't able to heal until it was removed.

 

[mflacy]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mflacy
Hiro went all Ninja Gaiden in Smurfville at the end. That was truely badass.

I think everyone is confused on the Cheerleader thing. My guess is that keeping her alive changes some future event, perhaps the NY bombing.

All I know is that I'm ready to see Pete fly.

Pete probably isn't going to fly.

His brother was abducted in the last episode and has the true power of flight. Peter has the power of mimicry.

I think next week's preview had him flying. But I could be wrong.

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: mflacy

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mflacy
Hiro went all Ninja Gaiden in Smurfville at the end. That was truely badass.

I think everyone is confused on the Cheerleader thing. My guess is that keeping her alive changes some future event, perhaps the NY bombing.

All I know is that I'm ready to see Pete fly.

Pete probably isn't going to fly.

His brother was abducted in the last episode and has the true power of flight. Peter has the power of mimicry.

I think next week's preview had him flying. But I could be wrong.

I'm pretty sure it was Nathan flying in the preview.

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: mflacy

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mflacy
Hiro went all Ninja Gaiden in Smurfville at the end. That was truely badass.

I think everyone is confused on the Cheerleader thing. My guess is that keeping her alive changes some future event, perhaps the NY bombing.

All I know is that I'm ready to see Pete fly.

Pete probably isn't going to fly.

His brother was abducted in the last episode and has the true power of flight. Peter has the power of mimicry.

I think next week's preview had him flying. But I could be wrong.

that is a badass theory. i never thought of that

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: maziwanka

Originally posted by: mflacy

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mflacy
Hiro went all Ninja Gaiden in Smurfville at the end. That was truely badass.

I think everyone is confused on the Cheerleader thing. My guess is that keeping her alive changes some future event, perhaps the NY bombing.

All I know is that I'm ready to see Pete fly.

Pete probably isn't going to fly.

His brother was abducted in the last episode and has the true power of flight. Peter has the power of mimicry.

I think next week's preview had him flying. But I could be wrong.

that is a badass theory. i never thought of that

Maybe his powers are kinda like Rogue's. IE: He needs you around the first time, so he can mimic them, but afterwards he can use them on his own, but with less power/efficiency.

Or something..

edit: I know that Rogue is different, but I think you understand what I mean

 

[mb]

I just watched the preview again, it is Nathan flying, not Peter. Nathan was in Vegas as the scene clearly depicts, and shirtless still as he was when he was taken out of bed.

Besides, Peter is still in NY, and the preview shows his eyes glazed over like Isaac's when he was painting the future.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Tremulant

Maybe his powers are kinda like Rogue's. IE: He needs you around the first time, so he can mimic them, but afterwards he can use them on his own, but with less power/efficiency.

Or something..

edit: I know that Rogue is different, but I think you understand what I mean

We saw from when Peter and Nathan were both together, they could fly.

However, now Peter cannot fly. My guess is that he feeds off the powers of those around him, and can use them to aid the other Heroes. Once he breaks the connection with the hero around him, he is no longer capable of using the power.

What may be really interesting, is if there are multiple heroes and he can leech all of their power at once and then be a sort of super hero. For example, if Claire, Nathan, and Hiro were all around, would he have flight, tissue regeneration, and time/space shifting powers?

 

[JS80]

do you think nathan was able to talk to hiro when he stopped time on the train because he can mimic?

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: JS80
do you think nathan was able to talk to hiro when he stopped time on the train because he can mimic?

I think that Hiro is able to control his powers better, and was able to stop time for everyone except him and Peter.

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Tremulant

Maybe his powers are kinda like Rogue's. IE: He needs you around the first time, so he can mimic them, but afterwards he can use them on his own, but with less power/efficiency.

Or something..

edit: I know that Rogue is different, but I think you understand what I mean

We saw from when Peter and Nathan were both together, they could fly.

However, now Peter cannot fly. My guess is that he feeds off the powers of those around him, and can use them to aid the other Heroes. Once he breaks the connection with the hero around him, he is no longer capable of using the power.

What may be really interesting, is if there are multiple heroes and he can leech all of their power at once and then be a sort of super hero. For example, if Claire, Nathan, and Hiro were all around, would he have flight, tissue regeneration, and time/space shifting powers?

I kinda figured that he'd need others around to leech his powers, but it'd be cool if he didn't. It would make him overpowered though.

As far as becoming the super hero thing, that'd be cool. But they'd all probably have to stay near him as well.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Tremulant

Originally posted by: maziwanka

Originally posted by: mflacy

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mflacy
Hiro went all Ninja Gaiden in Smurfville at the end. That was truely badass.

I think everyone is confused on the Cheerleader thing. My guess is that keeping her alive changes some future event, perhaps the NY bombing.

All I know is that I'm ready to see Pete fly.

Pete probably isn't going to fly.

His brother was abducted in the last episode and has the true power of flight. Peter has the power of mimicry.

I think next week's preview had him flying. But I could be wrong.

that is a badass theory. i never thought of that

Maybe his powers are kinda like Rogue's. IE: He needs you around the first time, so he can mimic them, but afterwards he can use them on his own, but with less power/efficiency.

Or something..

edit: I know that Rogue is different, but I think you understand what I mean

You mean Mimic, not Rogue.

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Tremulant

Originally posted by: maziwanka

Originally posted by: mflacy

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mflacy
Hiro went all Ninja Gaiden in Smurfville at the end. That was truely badass.

I think everyone is confused on the Cheerleader thing. My guess is that keeping her alive changes some future event, perhaps the NY bombing.

All I know is that I'm ready to see Pete fly.

Pete probably isn't going to fly.

His brother was abducted in the last episode and has the true power of flight. Peter has the power of mimicry.

I think next week's preview had him flying. But I could be wrong.

that is a badass theory. i never thought of that

Maybe his powers are kinda like Rogue's. IE: He needs you around the first time, so he can mimic them, but afterwards he can use them on his own, but with less power/efficiency.

Or something..

edit: I know that Rogue is different, but I think you understand what I mean

You mean Mimic, not Rogue.

I meant Rogue, because I'm not familiar with Mimic.

Except, with Rogue, she has to touch you to gain your powers. And she also can't control her own power, but she can pretty much master the powers she's drained.

Edit: Just read the wiki on Mimic, and it does seem that his powers are very similar to the powers that Peter has. I wonder if he has a limit to how many he can copy at once, or if there's a way for him to permanently learn any of the powers.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Tremulant

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Tremulant
Maybe his powers are kinda like Rogue's. IE: He needs you around the first time, so he can mimic them, but afterwards he can use them on his own, but with less power/efficiency.

Or something..

edit: I know that Rogue is different, but I think you understand what I mean

You mean Mimic, not Rogue.

I meant Rogue, because I'm not familiar with Mimic.

Except, with Rogue, she has to touch you to gain your powers. And she also can't control her own power, but she can pretty much master the powers she's drained.

Edit: Just read the wiki on Mimic, and it does seem that his powers are very similar to the powers that Peter has. I wonder if he has a limit to how many he can copy at once, or if there's a way for him to permanently learn any of the powers.

I was responding to your "you understand what I mean". I knew what you meant, and you fairly accurately described Mimic. The only Mimic I've read about is the member of the Exiles. That Mimic can only copy up to 5 powers at a time and his version is weaker, but he keeps them until he copies someone else's powers.

 

[Injury]

Didn't read al of the replies, but I can only imagine that there is a link in the timeline between that moment and the future where Claire is present.
IE: there is a point where Claire's powers are the only ones that can get them through a certain situation that he's foreseen.

But after so many plot twists from LOST, I've stopped making assumptions on things.

 

[mb]

If Hiro has the ability to travel through time, then his future self knows who the enemy is... why doesn't he just go back and kill whoever is responsible for the explosion?

I guess that would end the show pretty quickly.

 

[UpgradeFailure]

Originally posted by: supafly
If Hiro has the ability to travel through time, then his future self knows who the enemy is... why doesn't he just go back and kill whoever is responsible for the explosion?

I guess that would end the show pretty quickly.

It would cause the Universe to explode or something. Since if the bad guy is dead in our current present, Hiro wouldn't go back in time later in the future to kill him(as he is already dead in the new future's current present) So if he doesn't go back in time to kill him, how can he already be dead?

It's like if your future self came back and killed you. You wouldnt' be able to grow up to go back in time and kill youself.