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theshad

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Originally posted by: Juddog
I really wish they would hurry up and add in Spectre, that was one of my top favorite DOTA characters. I am also really disappointed that the tree sight ability doesn't spot invis characters like it does in DOTA (in DOTA whenever someone picked an invis character I would pick tree to counter them, same goes for techies).

I thought that tree in DoTA doesn't have true sight anymore either.
Spectre is one of the heroes they are currently working on.
 

Juddog

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Originally posted by: theshad
Originally posted by: Juddog
I really wish they would hurry up and add in Spectre, that was one of my top favorite DOTA characters. I am also really disappointed that the tree sight ability doesn't spot invis characters like it does in DOTA (in DOTA whenever someone picked an invis character I would pick tree to counter them, same goes for techies).

I thought that tree in DoTA doesn't have true sight anymore either.
Spectre is one of the heroes they are currently working on.

When did this get nerfed?
 

ModeEngage

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Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: theshad
Originally posted by: Juddog
I really wish they would hurry up and add in Spectre, that was one of my top favorite DOTA characters. I am also really disappointed that the tree sight ability doesn't spot invis characters like it does in DOTA (in DOTA whenever someone picked an invis character I would pick tree to counter them, same goes for techies).

I thought that tree in DoTA doesn't have true sight anymore either.
Spectre is one of the heroes they are currently working on.

When did this get nerfed?

The eyes in the forest now give health regen when allies are standing around them. I'm not sure how I feel about the ability on the whole.
 

Juddog

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Originally posted by: n30
Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: theshad
Originally posted by: Juddog
I really wish they would hurry up and add in Spectre, that was one of my top favorite DOTA characters. I am also really disappointed that the tree sight ability doesn't spot invis characters like it does in DOTA (in DOTA whenever someone picked an invis character I would pick tree to counter them, same goes for techies).

I thought that tree in DoTA doesn't have true sight anymore either.
Spectre is one of the heroes they are currently working on.

When did this get nerfed?

The eyes in the forest now give health regen when allies are standing around them. I'm not sure how I feel about the ability on the whole.

Personally I would much rather have true sight as the tree ability, it's much more useful, especially in pubs, for countering invis characters. In pubs you can pretty much count out people using wards or dust half the time, so as a counter I like to pick treant to plant some trees in that lane to give them some area knowledge.
 

RedArmy

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I have 2 beta keys, PM me if you need one.

Edit: Both key are gone. If I get any more I'll send more out.
 

Juddog

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Originally posted by: theshad
It got changed a couple months ago at least.

I can't find any record of the change as far as DOTA tree true-sight is concerned.

In HoN I think they nerfed / didn't include a few of the true-sight abilities, for example the Slardarr equivalent doesn't give true-sight from his bug swarm ability.
 

theshad

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Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: theshad
It got changed a couple months ago at least.

I can't find any record of the change as far as DOTA tree true-sight is concerned.

In HoN I think they nerfed / didn't include a few of the true-sight abilities, for example the Slardarr equivalent doesn't give true-sight from his bug swarm ability.

I might be mistaken, I thought that when they changed the tree to just placing a fake tree rather than having an eye above one, that they removed the true-sight from it.

Pestilence does have true-sight on his ultimate also. He is identical to Slardar was.
 

Juddog

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Originally posted by: theshad
Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: theshad
It got changed a couple months ago at least.

I can't find any record of the change as far as DOTA tree true-sight is concerned.

In HoN I think they nerfed / didn't include a few of the true-sight abilities, for example the Slardarr equivalent doesn't give true-sight from his bug swarm ability.

I might be mistaken, I thought that when they changed the tree to just placing a fake tree rather than having an eye above one, that they removed the true-sight from it.

Pestilence does have true-sight on his ultimate also. He is identical to Slardar was.

I double checked the DOTA forums, someone there said that Rooftrellen still has truesight on his planted trees. It was a decision by the programmers at S2 to have the trees offer regeneration instead of true sight.
 

Juddog

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I'm done with HoN; I had a frustrating night where the unit AI became unbearable. I'm tired of Devourer sucking compared with Pudge (for example when trying to hook out of range, he walks over and then casts hook, by which time they have run away and you waste a spell). Treant sucks compared to his DOTA counterpart. Then you have the Succubus / arachna who are WTF overpowered along with Jereziah over everybody else. When I play a SD game and get to pick Jereziah it's basically a guaranteed win.

I know it's still beta so the balance is way out of whack, but it's annoying that you have to pick so and so characters over everybody else or your chances of losing increase dramatically. I don't like how the system tracks your stats making it so that you can't test out new theories and ideas, instead you're locked into doing the same old bullshit tried and true strategies over and over, which kills the fun. In DOTA I could just create a new account to mess around with different item builds and try new heroes, in HoN so far it seems like you cannot do that. I am hoping that the non-beta release of the client will fix some of these things, but as it stands in beta I am done with the game for now.

I give credit to the developers for trying hard to quickly patch things in though, and playing beta's often leads to a bad experience with a game, that's nothing new and to be expected that the "polishing" of the game comes between beta and launch as well as after launch. It's a fun game if you pick the main league worthy heroes and just chain stun / disable during group ganks, but for the secondary "fun pick" heroes the game sucks. The pathing has a lot of work to do, for example I was playing a couple nights ago and clicking to get away; my character runs up to the other character who was trying to move in the opposite direction and instead of going around each other they both just stand there looking at each other for 2-3 seconds, which was long enough for enemy to catch up and gank me. The votekick system is also retarded, why have the enemy team have a say in a vote to kick out a team member who's feeding or acting like a d!ck.

Once they fix the issues above, I might give it another shot though, but for now I'm done with the beta. Final pet peeve: the graphics are awesome compared with DOTA, but for some reason during massive team battles the colors cause me to get confused as to who is who and where they are; since there isn't a glow around the character's base I have trouble targeting people.
 

EvilYoda

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I think this thread has garnered more first post black man avatars than any other thread I've ever seen.
 

buzzsaw13

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Oh my god, the new hero they put in whose supposed to be lich. His lvl6 is the most OP thing ever. It works like Lich's ult except it does splash and ignores magic immunity.
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Oh my god, the new hero they put in whose supposed to be lich. His lvl6 is the most OP thing ever. It works like Lich's ult except it does splash and ignores magic immunity.

Wow, seriously? Ignores magic immunity? Fucked up. That's massively OP.

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Case sensitive... such bullshit.
 

jcthps

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I hate to be another one of those just asking for a key but... :/

I think this game will be really successful because of the lack of freedom that the wc3 engine gives the creator of dota. It can possibly lead to more features and great new heroes and changes that will be more easiliy implemented and things of that nature. idk just my two cents.

also if anyone has a beta key I would be forever in your debt :D
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: Juddog
I'm done with HoN; I had a frustrating night

I think that 80% of my losses were beyond frustrating. This is the only game I've ever played that really pissed me off. For that reason alone, I never plan on buying it. It's fun when it's fun, but when it's miserable it's usually 45 minutes of misery. At least with any other game I can just quit anytime.
 

edwarus

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does any1 have any beta keys for HoN i've been watchin my cuz play it for the past 2 weeks and i really wanna play it too but he wont let me use his account so if you could give me a beta key id appreciate it email is bloodrunne11@yahoo.com
 

atran5e

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Once you get hang of it, it's fun. Haven't played HoN, but I played the warcraft 3 map for a few years, won a mym Pride tournament and thats about it. These kind of battle arena games are really fun when played at a competitive level
 

Juddog

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Originally posted by: edwarus
does any1 have any beta keys for HoN i've been watchin my cuz play it for the past 2 weeks and i really wanna play it too but he wont let me use his account so if you could give me a beta key id appreciate it email is bloodrunne11@yahoo.com

Fail - you were supposed to pick the black man avatar.