Here's what your kids are being taught in Tucson

[boomerang]

Useless. Only truth matters, not social pressures. ANY attempt at enforcing 'social mores' is an evil to humanity. Political correctness is wrong, euphemism is wrong, false politeness is wrong. What matters is honesty, logic, reason, evidence, etc. Nothing else exists, or should.

/facepalm

I've never seen much upside to arguing with idiots. Carry on.

 

[PrinceofWands]

/facepalm

I've never seen much upside to arguing with idiots. Carry on.

So your argument is that whatever evolves as acceptable to society is what we should do, regardless of scientific evidence to the contrary, facts, evidence, independent morality/ethical concerns, practical concerns for the future, etc? So it's ok to hate those filthy fags? Women should have stayed in the kitchen and shut their traps? N1ggers should get their asses back to the fields? Jews should climb on in to the ovens?

Beause ALL of those things were social mores of the time that were changed through controversial hammering of facts into the consciousness of mankind until they could no longer ignore it and acted to change things IN SPITE of social inertia.

 

[OutHouse]

I believe the woman in the video mentioned seeing the book in the hands of a sixth-grader.

People make up all kinds of sh!t just to stir the pot.

My son is 6th grade and I would be livid if he had a book like that. Jr or sr class sure but not 12 year olds

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

My son is 6th grade and I would be livid if he had a book like that. Jr or sr class sure but not 12 year olds

Yep. There seems to be a plethora of ignorance about what shouldn't be all that hard to understand, and that is age appropriate education. When the kids are more sophisticated sure.

 

[woolfe9999]

Edit: And Aztlan, Republica del Norte, whatever you want to call it, is a real thing. It's not some invention by the big bad white man. It comes from educated hispanics, who then teach it to the uneducated. It's an ideology for invading this country.

Curious about this since I hadn't heard of it, I googled it, checked Wiki, ran down the sources, etc. What I'm finding is that some Chicano liberation group back in the late 1960's adopted this idea. Another group supposedly associated with the idea is a fictional creation of white nationalist websites. So far, there doesn't seem to be any present vitality or relevance to it. I'm not disputing that it's real, just whether it has any relevance in 2011. For that matter, I'm not convinced it was more than a fringe idea even 40 years ago. If you have any information to the contrary, feel free to link or cite it.

- wolf

 

[zinfamous]

So let me get this straight: When ethic studies are being taught, we can't let students read the actual words of actual people. We can't let students see that historically there's been massive discontent and rage against America. We can't let students read about REAL attitudes about America. When students study Fidel Castro, we can't let them read the actual words of Castro. When students read about Malcolm X, we can't let them read the actual words of Malcolm X.

Instead, we must teach students that no one has any problems with America. No one uses foul language. No one is angry. Every historical figure must use nice words that are pro-America. Students must be taught that no one has different ideas about what constitutes a just society.

And I'll bet that this "vision" of what good ethnic studies education should be is coming from the same idiots who decry PC practices in other contexts.

didn't you here? freedom to the speech that we want you to say and hear; freedom of information that we want you to know.

it's the teabagger/neocon way.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

didn't you here? freedom to the speech that we want you to say and hear; freedom of information that we want you to know.

it's the teabagger/neocon way.

It's like sex. People should be able to screw in your living room in front of the kids, get up and scream at them because of some injustice by whatever particular group the naked fokkers lock in on.

Freedom of information you know.

 

[a777pilot]

You're all racists!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You're all racists!

I like motorcycle then F1. I really don't care for NASCAR.

 

[theeedude]

Time to clean house and replace the AZ Governor and legislature for this.

 

[a777pilot]

I like motorcycle then F1. I really don't care for NASCAR.

LOL! Love it.

 

[Triumph]

Didn't that school board member just prove her point when he asked her not to use that language, because there were children present? Case closed!

I have no problems with the subject matter. I find it hard to understand why it is being taught to 3rd graders.