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KarVi

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DRGrim..



<< nVidia does amazing work. They make the fastest comsumer level video cards in the world, and have brought things like hardware T&amp;L and FSAA to you. >>



You are right about nVidia doing a great job, but it was 3dfx that was the first to bring FSAA to a consumer level product.

nVidia is IMHO just becoming to dominant, and I hope ATI and PowerVR (Kyro), will be able to give them some competition.

I am looking forward towards their nForce chipsets. They look promising, if only they aren't as bad as their first GFX cards. :eek:
 

Wah

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<< NVIDIA REALLY MADE THEMSELVES LOOK BAD SO U TELL ME WHY U HEAR MORE ABOUT RADEON THEN NVIDIDA !! PEOPLE ARE PICKING AND ALTERNATIVE HAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAT THE HELL WIT NVIDIDA !! >>



Thats funny...all I hear these days is &quot;Geforce3&quot;.
 

SaturnX

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<< some people don't get it, Nvidia has the driver code and won't release the code to anyone. so nobody can do any real driver updates. I don't expect them(nvidia) to update drivers, but they could at least give out the code to MS or somebody else, oh no not that, they want Voodoo cards to die so they can sell more of there cards >>



But that's marketing strategy, eliminate competition to sell more of own products. I give a good chance that IF, 3DFX bought out nVidia, they'd be in the same boat, not releasing code in order sell more of their own. The business world is like that, if the company is out to make money, that's what they'll do.

--Mark
 

pidge

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I am to tired to type a response so here is the response that I posted in another thread created by Jumpman6 on the video forum about this:

&quot;I am getting tired of you morons complaining to NVIDIA about support for 3dfx. NVIDIA did not buy out 3dfx. 3dfx was out of cash. They were really desparate for cash. They had a bunch of chips in thier factory but didn't have the money to buy anymore memory to make video cards. They were doing pretty bad. They were doing so bad that they couldn't afford to shut down without borrowing money from NVIDIA. When 3dfx realized they had no choice, they sold their technology to NVIDIA. NVIDIA did not buy out 3dfx nor merge with them. They just bought 3dfx's technology. If you think it would have been nice if NVIDIA had purchased 3dfx so that it could continue offering support for 3dfx products, then yeah it would have. But in that case, I would not want you to run my company nor invest in any company in which you have any business decision making in because you do not have a clue about how to run a business. The selling of the technology by 3dfx and shutting down of the company required stockholder approval from 3dfx stockholders so in the meantime, they had to borrow money from NVIDIA (how nice of NVIDIA ) since they couldn't just outright sell them the technology. Two or three months later, they got the approval and all I.P., patents etc. were transferred to NVIDIA. In the meantime, 3dfx let go of all their employees. They contracted a company who handles customer support for other companies to handle all software issues for 3dfx (that is why it seems like they are morons and don't know much about 3dfx products, I used to work for one of the companies that uses this company for end users customer support and I know how dumb their employees are), and they did not offer to buy back any of the inventory they sold to retailers because they couldn't afford to so retailers were stuck with the task of having to sell the remaining stock of Voodoo cards they had left. A month or two before 3dfx sold their technology to NVIDIA, there was a rumour that NVIDIA might buy out 3dfx. 3dfx denied that rumour and reassured that they were in the process of launching their Voodoo 6 6000 video card. I am sure they knew what financial condition they were in but they didn't care and they deceived their customers, the retailers and maybe some of their engineers who worked hard for 3dfx. 3dfx continued offering hardware support until they ran out of replacement video cards. That lasted until January only. The rest is history. So you see...3dfx is the company you should be griping to, not NVIDIA. The Voodoo 5 5500 and the Voodoo cards before that were great cards. Except for the Voodoo 5 5500, all the previous cards I speak from experience. So I can see why some of you like to defend 3dfx but it is really not NVIDIA's fault or responsability. &quot;

Here is the link to the thread:
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pidge

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<< DRGrim it was 3dfx that brought us FSAA! >>



Ummm...wasn't it NVIDIA who first brought us FSAA? A few days before 3dfx released their Voodoo 5 5500, didn't NVIDIA release their Detonator 2 drivers which provided FSAA support?
 

Dufusyte

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To this day, 3dfx is has the only cards that do good fsaa.

nVidia has been trying to hack together some fsaa to compete with 3dfx's feature for a long time. If they rushed out their first hack a day before 3dfx's implementation hit the streets, it would not prove anything anyway.

PS: I am waiting for a card to come out of nvidia that was made by the 3dfx engineers. Maybe a gf4 or so.
 

Zepper

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And 3dfx's 2d has also always been much better than nvidia. I spend very little time in 3d mode... Recently bought a Voodoo3-3000 PCI on clearance for its 2d quality. Very happy with it.
.bh.