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Heres some nice Rads.

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
very nice

there cheap too.

however no bencies were done on it.

I should ask my friend cam if he has one for testing tho.
 

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I would've benched them if I knew about them before I bought an MCR320QP. Nice rads.
 

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Ya for the water cooling silent crowd these are hugh . Improvements.

For myself its exactly what I wanted. Couldn't be more perfect. Right now I use 3x120 rads. With these I can stack 2 use 4 and gain some much needed space. This is going to work out good since I allowed for stacking in the hopes someone would bo this TC 160s were 11fpi single core and were copper fins brass tube . These are copper copper. dual cores. So I really shouldn't have to tellya how tey perform just check out a 160 and add alot to it. Without making NOISE! You guys will love these . I do. 7.31"stacked. I allowed for 7.5 LOL.

I predict this is the one people will buy. First class shit here guys . After all a rad is nothing more than 2 chambers and tubes and ribbin copper. So the quality of a rad is the some of its parts. This is top quality. The 8fpi is per music to the ears. Properly installed it will take on all but Monster. Stacked its going to be interesting with these winning the silent test hands down.
 

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I see skinnee did a review of the 120. It pretty much matches what we got . We tested the 360. And at both low and high CFM the XSPC was the best performer. Also using same fans at same speed the XSPC is more silent. Not bad. Not bad at all. Good job XSPC.

On our test system . enclosed just like reall life. What we noticed was the nice changes in the air pressure wtih the intake side both showing better neg air on the exhaust side the positive air was also better. So not only does it manage your water temps well . It infact manages air flow threw case better. Our test system measures compartment air pressure and air flow . As well as water pressure at intake and return manifolds. Of course we use fine water flow controls along with temp sensors. Since we use manifolds this is were all measurements must be made . . Now I didn't like in skinnee review that he used 1.5 gpm as a standard. We tested at 2gpm . Since we put 8 gpm threw 3 or four 360s ( my system is 3x right now . But I am switching to these and using x4. Since we use a differant testbed and water system . That put us at 2gpm flow threw each rad. We have to use differant methods than what everyone else use .

They do it right for the systems used . As do we.

aigomorla
Pretty sure ya know skinee. Tell him rather than Use a aquirium heater for load. When I first started testing . I didn't want to spend the money on a decent load station. Being A maintinance teck most my life . I opped for a bearing heat station . Much better to work with. Than ya put the load on the cpu block and test. I suppose heating the water is ok for rad. BUT.
 

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I noticed that skinee stated these are three core I took it for granted there 2 core didn't look that close. But that wouldn't really be cost effective. I noticed in his pics what he is referring to. Dammed if I don't see the spacing he is referring to. I see it as ridged. But when I look threw the cores. The fin mismatch shows only 2 cores. I will have Dar bring it over so I can look at it. Pretty sure it 2 core but that pic does show something not sure what tho. Also in his test flow threw the rads would have been way differant 3 small cores vs 2 larger. I have not seen that in our flow numbers at all.
 

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yeah my pal skinnee just did the review last night.

LOL..

gilbot and i was up talking to him while he was finishing it.

http://skinneelabs.com/
 

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Dar just recieved another Rad from Young Touchstone. Things are really getting interesting. I don't know who the customer is as rarely I do. But More good rads are coming. We haven't gotten anything from young touchstone for a long long time . Interesting.
 

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Dam I forgot. aigomorla
I noted Skinee said he didn't have a manometer. So he couldn't check resistance to flow. Long ago if we were in a position were were a mano not to be had . A simple Water pressure and Vacuum guage works nicely. Place the pressure guage at outlet of pump,. The vaccum gauge at the return of the pump. Run a length of tubing to inlet outlet of said pump make it a 1/1/2 footer. Than run pump should be pressure at outlet and negitive pressure at the inlet.

Than cut tubing don't shorten . Than attach to rad retake the messurements . Than use the math. By cutting a 1 foot tubing and attaching at iN /OUT pump. Retake measure meant that gives ya the pressure drop threw for 1" of tubing. Now use formula that will give pressure drop or resistance to flow. Beings how he is using flow meter to hold pressure 1 1/2 gpm You should get very close to manometer numbers. I admitt I like our DP-330 alot better than that method. But if in a pinch . Captain cavey did ok got us here ant way.
 

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i'll let him know

Thanks!
 

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Its a good tool to use. Some of these low flow blocks and stuff can really raise hell with pumps. You can find the cavatation point of pump using above .

Hay aigomorla
I been watching the luna thread. I tell sometimes I just can't help but LOL. All should know Enzo is a forged product. Its NOT finished forged . It still has to be machined. Enzo with one design can release both a low flow and high flow block. Simply by making the micro channels deeper. That don't accomplish this by thinning the base . but rather than not finish cutting the micro channels so deeply for better flow same top and o-rings all interchange. Pretty Kool design.

Now if the guys are having problems with Maliks numbers because of water blocks in loop. More temps need to be taken. Of the other water block temps . If both cpu blocks are on same setup if temps behind the cpu degrade on either water block . There in lies the ans. If Luna lowers the cpu temp better and all other temps stay same or improve than Luna wins. In maliks setup.
 

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There in lies the ans. If Luna lowers the cpu temp better and all other temps stay same or improve than Luna wins. In maliks setup.

QFT!

any improvement is always a WIN!