Here is what the inside of a failed Enermax TR4 AIO looks like after a year EDIT number 2 died today

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Lordhumungus

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Sure, flat rate medium bos is $13.65. I just tried it, and I will have to cheat and make the box about 1 inch longer, and I hope they still pickup/ship.

Otherwise, not sure what it would cost. If you want to try, just PM me your address, and I will send you my paypal.

They are usually super strict about flat rate box sizes, but if you go to the USPS website, you should be able to order one of the shoe box sized Priority (not flat rate) boxes and have it sent to you at no cost.

Edit: Also if you paid with CC, you may be able to get them to step in on some kind of warranty coverage if your CC included that. I would think the fact that they are basically sending you another defective unit would count for something and maybe they will do a chargeback.
 

Markfw

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They are usually super strict about flat rate box sizes, but if you go to the USPS website, you should be able to order one of the shoe box sized Priority (not flat rate) boxes and have it sent to you at no cost.

Edit: Also if you paid with CC, you may be able to get them to step in on some kind of warranty coverage if your CC included that. I would think the fact that they are basically sending you another defective unit would count for something and maybe they will do a chargeback.
I am not bothering to ship it back. I am going to pay for getting another defective unit ? I don't think so. They will not reply to my email saying I want and version 2, so I already have one RMA that sent me the defective one. Its just not worth it.
 

Lordhumungus

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I am not bothering to ship it back. I am going to pay for getting another defective unit ? I don't think so. They will not reply to my email saying I want and version 2, so I already have one RMA that sent me the defective one. Its just not worth it.

For the first part I meant as far as sending it to aigomorla. On the RMA, totally understand. I personally can't walk away from stuff like that on principal, but that's not the normal reaction and it's definitely better for your mental health to be able to move on.
 

Markfw

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I just got an update. They say they have shipped me a version 2 today, so if they come through I will have to give them kudos for that.
 
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Atari2600

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I just got an update. They say they have shipped me a version 2 today, so if they come through I will have to give them kudos for that.

one version 2 or four version 2s?

You've quite a few of them lying around gathering dust at this point do you not?
 

Valantar

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Just logged in here for the first time in ages to say that the exact same thing happened to the LiqTech 240mm in my GF's Threadripper build. I didn't crack it open, but the pump was definitely running, yet it had zero flow (hoses were room temp 10-15cm from the CPU block even when the CPU was at 90+ degrees and throttling hard and the block was too hot to touch). Luckily I convinced the store where I bought it to replace it with a Noctua NH-U14S. Did not feel like trying another one of these AIOs, seeing how this one only lasted around 10 months.
 

StefanR5R

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I've got neoprene tubing; EKWB ZMT. The low maintenance aspect was specifically why I chose this over the more common "high maintenance" materials. I guess there is still some evaporation going on (also through rotary fittings), but so far it looks like it will be a long while until I need to refill.
PS: It takes three years or more before I have to top off these loops with a little more water.
Furthermore, I never empty & rinse to clean & refill. There is no need for this if the components have been cleaned before the loop is built.

I merely revisited this thread because I just came across Servethehome's piece on IBM z17. Watercooled mainframes? Yep, their waterloop is built to keep going for ten years in 24/7/365 duty without maintenance. (You don't reach 99.999999% uptime if you drain/rinse/refill once every year, unless you are a superhumanly quick worker.) The ten years maintenance-free operation of the watercooler is mentioned in their video (after 6m28s), not in the article.