here is an idea for the france bashers

Czar

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regardless of what has happened and that France and US had as good relations as some people would want

If France wanted to invade a certain country and would accuse that country of various violations of international law which would later to be found out that were wrong should the US support France in this invation business even though the US belived that these violations were not that solid as France would say they were?

please say what the US would do and why it would do it
 

Zipp

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You mean if France wanted to disarm a country that the UN as well as many other countries said that they currently possess WMD and were not suppose to due to a certain agreement...And if France felt the security of there country was at stake if something wasn't done.

I would have to say that the US would support them because we are really all on the same team fighting against the bad guys in this world. Also,I wouldn't have a problem with France protecting itself with or without USA support.

Oh Ya....And if they didn't find any thing when they got there....Well,sometimes you just cant take any chances.

(More than likely though the US Military would end up doing all the work while France cooks dinner for our troops):D


Why do I have a feeling that you're going to whip out a link and show some instance in the past that we didn't support France.
 

StormRider

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If by not helping France later on, it would mean the people of the invaded country would suffer more because France couldn't provide security, then I would say we should help them.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Zipp
You mean if France wanted to disarm a country that the UN as well as many other countries said that they currently possess WMD and were not suppose to due to a certain agreement...And if France felt the security of there country was at stake if something wasn't done.
You mean, they all assumed the country in question possessed WMD, they didn't know for sure. You know what they say about ASSuME-ing things. You also know what they say about if everyone tells you to jump off a bridge . . . oh yeah, that's right, you'd jump -- wouldn't you?
 

Zipp

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They didn't all assumed,they all agreed on the WMD's....They may have been wrong but only time will tell.

And like I said,right or wrong....Sometimes you just can't take any chances.

It's like what the former administration said...Think about all the terrorists that could parade through Baghdad and pick up some of that nasty unaccounted stuff if we don't go in and take care of business,and I agreed with them back then too.

After 9/11,It was time to put the hammer down and take care of some unfinished business.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Czar
regardless of what has happened and that France and US had as good relations as some people would want

If France wanted to invade a certain country and would accuse that country of various violations of international law which would later to be found out that were wrong should the US support France in this invation business even though the US belived that these violations were not that solid as France would say they were?

please say what the US would do and why it would do it
probably not. but then, the situation you've provided is the reverse of bush's iraq adventure in more than just the country names being switched around
 

Martin

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The hate for France is so strong, people will hate the French no matter what.
 

etech

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Zipp
You mean if France wanted to disarm a country that the UN as well as many other countries said that they currently possess WMD and were not suppose to due to a certain agreement...And if France felt the security of there country was at stake if something wasn't done.
You mean, they all assumed the country in question possessed WMD, they didn't know for sure. You know what they say about ASSuME-ing things. You also know what they say about if everyone tells you to jump off a bridge . . . oh yeah, that's right, you'd jump -- wouldn't you?

Do you still think that WMD was the only reason to remove Saddam?

Yes, I know it was the cornerstone of the administration's argument for it, but do you really think it was the only reason? And if it wasn't, what do you think were some of the other reasons?



 

StormRider

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Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
The hate for France is so strong, people will hate the French no matter what.

I like French girls -- I heard they have a thing for asian men -- or so I've deluded myself into thinking!
 

0roo0roo

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your assuming france can actually pull something like that off. they can't. they are impotent militarily by choice which is why they throw their lot in with the UN so furiously. not to mention their undeserved place on the security council:p
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: StormRider
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
The hate for France is so strong, people will hate the French no matter what.

I like French girls -- I heard they have a thing for asian men -- or so I've deluded myself into thinking!
Paris actually has the highest AM/WF : WM/AF ratio I've seen in all my travels. Close second goes to Vancouver...
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Zipp
You mean if France wanted to disarm a country that the UN as well as many other countries said that they currently possess WMD and were not suppose to due to a certain agreement...And if France felt the security of there country was at stake if something wasn't done.
You mean, they all assumed the country in question possessed WMD, they didn't know for sure. You know what they say about ASSuME-ing things. You also know what they say about if everyone tells you to jump off a bridge . . . oh yeah, that's right, you'd jump -- wouldn't you?

Do you still think that WMD was the only reason to remove Saddam?

Yes, I know it was the cornerstone of the administration's argument for it, but do you really think it was the only reason? And if it wasn't, what do you think were some of the other reasons?
That wasn't the only reason we invaded and occupied Iraq. It was probably the main reason why the majority of the American Public supported the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Czar
regardless of what has happened and that France and US had as good relations as some people would want

If France wanted to invade a certain country and would accuse that country of various violations of international law which would later to be found out that were wrong should the US support France in this invation business even though the US belived that these violations were not that solid as France would say they were?

please say what the US would do and why it would do it

The US would condemn France and lead a movement in the UN to have France in some way censored Some forum members would be wetting their pants in glee at the idea of France getting smacked around.
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Zipp
You mean if France wanted to disarm a country that the UN as well as many other countries said that they currently possess WMD and were not suppose to due to a certain agreement...And if France felt the security of there country was at stake if something wasn't done.
You mean, they all assumed the country in question possessed WMD, they didn't know for sure. You know what they say about ASSuME-ing things. You also know what they say about if everyone tells you to jump off a bridge . . . oh yeah, that's right, you'd jump -- wouldn't you?

Do you still think that WMD was the only reason to remove Saddam?

Yes, I know it was the cornerstone of the administration's argument for it, but do you really think it was the only reason? And if it wasn't, what do you think were some of the other reasons?
That wasn't the only reason we invaded and occupied Iraq. It was probably the main reason why the majority of the American Public supported the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

I do not think it is a real reason we invaded Iraq either. WMD's were the excuse. There are other unfriendly countries with WMD's. Dubya ignored them.