Here be Dragons

[Vadatajs]

Are you f*cking kidding me???

To these believers in the Bible's literal truth, they are not dinosaurs but "missionary lizards", which are powerful weapons in the battle for young American hearts and minds.

And on the 6th day, god created the dinosaur, so that he may instill the American teenager with fear of god and love of country (or is that love of god and fear of country). Forget it.

Lecturing to a rapt audience of 20 like-minded Christians after a hard day in the field, Russ McGlenn, a self-styled amateur archaeologist and palaeontologist and head of Adventure Safaris, said: "Heavenly Father, we thank You for the evidence of a catastrophic flood event. We thank You for the time to study Your creation. Heavenly Father, we thank You for the evidence of a catastrophic flood event."

"It's just dumb to believe that everything came from one kind of bang or fish or something," said Katy Carlson, 13, one of the youngest on the dig.

Evolution is "the dumbest and most dangerous idea in the history of humanity", said Kent Hovind, a vocal enthusiast for the cause who also runs the theme park in Florida. Explaining his Creationist creed, he said: "We think dinosaurs were part of the normal Creation and were just big lizards. Noah took some of them on the Ark, probably babies, when the floods came.

"Throughout history, there are stories of people killing the animals that survived but they called them dragons."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! These people crack me up. Does anybody (besides the president) actually believe this kind of horsesh1t?

 

[DealMonkey]

Oh yeah there are plenty of idiots around here spouting the same crap. Just wait, they'll show up shortly . . .

 

[RabidMongoose]

The baseball player Carl Everett does not believe in dinosaurs. I believe that he said that it was a conspiracy from scientists.

 

[ciba]

I have yet to find in the bible anything that rules out the possibility of evolution.

 

[onelove]

yes, you shouldn't laugh - creationism is actually taught in some schools and presented as an "alternate theory" to evolution.

The believers will be along shortly to post here and they will tell you that both theories are equally valid because neither can be conclusively proven or disproven.

 

[Strk]

I say whatever, dragons are cool

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: ciba
I have yet to find in the bible anything that rules out the possibility of evolution.

I thought god might of invented it to make his job easier, you know the whole overseeing the entire universe thing.

yes, you shouldn't laugh - creationism is actually taught in some schools and presented as an "alternate theory" to evolution.

The believers will be along shortly to post here and they will tell you that both theories are equally valid because neither can be conclusively proven or disproven.

Yes I should laugh. These people are ignoring the geologic age of these "dragons." There are many fossils of transitional creatures (Archaeopteryx comes to mind), which are evidence of evoltion (and not of creationism).

My biology teacher in high school tried to pull a fast one and tried to disprove evolution rather than teach it. After I told the administration, she was bumped from biology, and now only teaches earth science. Her argument that the bombadier beetle's defense mechanism (which is basically a mini thrust-vectored HO rocket) was too sophisticated to have resulted from evolution. It's a non sequitor, the sophisication of an adaptation is not evidence significant to disputing the veracity of evolution.

These people are the worst kind of stupid: ignorant and apathatic about their ignorance (willfully ignorant). They've convinced themselves that other points of view are invalid, and try (and fail) to beat the facts into supporting their point of view.

 

[conjur]

Do some Googling on Christian Reconstructionism.

Also, note my sig.

 

[onelove]

vad, there's no need to be unkind about it. After all, its a free country (in theory) and we're all free to believe what we want.

However, when belief is passed off as scientific "theory" to kids who may not have the analytical skills and experience to evaluate the information presented (and some of whom perhaps never will), that we cross the line from education to indoctrination.

 

[SuperTool]

What do you expect?
http://media.gallup.com/POLL/Glance/gg040622.gif

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: onelove
vad, there's no need to be unkind about it. After all, its a free country (in theory) and we're all free to believe what we want.

And it's my right to call out their bullsh!t.

However, when belief is passed off as scientific "theory" to kids who may not have the analytical skills and experience to evaluate the information presented (and some of whom perhaps never will), that we cross the line from education to indoctrination.

You have a good point there. Though creationists tend to think they are, Theory and Hypothesis are not convertible.

A theory is a scheme of the
relations subsisting between the parts of a systematic
whole; an hypothesis is a tentative conjecture
respecting a cause of phenomena.

We can see from the definition (grabbed from gnome's dictionary applet), that creationism isn't even a theory. It can't be, because there are many things that it cannot explain (god said so is just a dodge).

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
What do you expect?
http://media.gallup.com/POLL/Glance/gg040622.gif

I'll show this to the next girl who tells me women are smarter/better/etc

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Creation is the truth though. God created dinosaurs shortly before man.
Backed up in the Bible.
Job 40:15-19
15 "Behold, Be'hemoth, which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox. 16 Behold, his strength in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. 17 He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. 18 His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron. 19 "He is the first of the works of God; let him who made him bring near his sword!

 

[conjur]

Uh, newsflash, Bugs. The Bible was written by men and it does not represent the word of God as there is no God. A supreme being is merely man's manifestation of fear and ignorance.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Things like these are a sad reminder that religious fundamentalism is dangerous, no matter whether it's in the U.S. or Saudi Arabia.

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
Creation is the truth though. God created dinosaurs shortly before man.
Backed up in the Bible.
Job 40:15-19
15 "Behold, Be'hemoth, which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox. 16 Behold, his strength in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. 17 He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. 18 His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron. 19 "He is the first of the works of God; let him who made him bring near his sword!

BWAHAHAHA

Anything else you'd like to add? Like something that has to do with evolution?? I repeat a previous post of mine:

I thought god might of invented it [evolution] to make his job easier, you know the whole overseeing the entire universe thing.

Might you want to describe the biblical notion of 'shortly'? Is is 5 years, 1000 years, or 63 million years?

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Originally posted by: conjur
Uh, newsflash, Bugs. The Bible was written by men and it does not represent the word of God as there is no God. A supreme being is merely man's manifestation of fear and ignorance.

Really? LOL not!
Guess what your science is wrong, the Bible is historically accurate.

 

[InfectedMushroom]

... and the intellectual dinosaur has spoken

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078

Originally posted by: conjur
Uh, newsflash, Bugs. The Bible was written by men and it does not represent the word of God as there is no God. A supreme being is merely man's manifestation of fear and ignorance.

Really? LOL not!
Guess what your science is wrong, the Bible is historically accurate.

Yes, there are historical accuracies in the Bible. I never said there weren't. However, historical accuracy does not equate to the existence of a god.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
Creation is the truth though. God created dinosaurs shortly before man.
Backed up in the Bible.
Job 40:15-19
15 "Behold, Be'hemoth, which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox. 16 Behold, his strength in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. 17 He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. 18 His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron. 19 "He is the first of the works of God; let him who made him bring near his sword!

BWAHAHAHA

Anything else you'd like to add? Like something that has to do with evolution?? I repeat a previous post of mine:

I thought god might of invented it [evolution] to make his job easier, you know the whole overseeing the entire universe thing.

Might you want to describe the biblical notion of 'shortly'? Is is 5 years, 1000 years, or 63 million years?

Closer to 1000 years. There is no proof that Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. Carbon dating has been debunked already. All the evidence supports the notion that dinosaurs went extinct around the time of Noah's flood.

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: conjur
Uh, newsflash, Bugs. The Bible was written by men and it does not represent the word of God as there is no God. A supreme being is merely man's manifestation of fear and ignorance.

You say that so definitively, as though it was fact. Fact demands proof, of which you have about as much of as a total faith believer does in his existence.

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
Creation is the truth though. God created dinosaurs shortly before man.
Backed up in the Bible.
Job 40:15-19
15 "Behold, Be'hemoth, which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox. 16 Behold, his strength in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. 17 He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. 18 His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron. 19 "He is the first of the works of God; let him who made him bring near his sword!

BWAHAHAHA

Anything else you'd like to add? Like something that has to do with evolution?? I repeat a previous post of mine:

I thought god might of invented it [evolution] to make his job easier, you know the whole overseeing the entire universe thing.

Might you want to describe the biblical notion of 'shortly'? Is is 5 years, 1000 years, or 63 million years?

Closer to 1000 years. There is no proof that Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. Carbon dating has been debunked already. All the evidence supports the notion that dinosaurs went extinct around the time of Noah's flood.

I'd like to read this debunking, and evidence that show any sign that noah's flood was global. I've actually heard theory that noah was in a flood, and was washed out to sea, the flood didn't actually cover the earth. There's geological evidence of this flood.

While I do believe in god, I also believe that the bible was written by men trying to explain complex ideas to VERY simple minded folk. The morals are good, but the stories are partly fiction (IMO).

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Things like these are a sad reminder that religious fundamentalism is dangerous, no matter whether it's in the U.S. or Saudi Arabia.

This woman speaks the truth!

 

[bsobel]

Closer to 1000 years. There is no proof that Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. Carbon dating has been debunked already. All the evidence supports the notion that dinosaurs went extinct around the time of Noah's flood.

It just dawned on me your not playing and your actually this naieve. Ok, I'll call you on this, provide links showing that carbon dating and rock strata dating are invalid in the scientific community. Links from Oral Roberts won't be accepted.

Bill

 

[CaptnKirk]

Well, Buggy . . .

After re-reading your 'Job meets Godzilla' a few times I see three possibilities of the prose:

It's talking about Brad Pitt playing Achilles in the movie 'Troy',
or maybe Arnold Swartzeneger staring in Terminator 4 - the Musical Comedy,
or Billy hittin' on Monica in the Oval Orfice.