crazy.wingman

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Hi ppl, i am building an pc need assistance.

My rig is :
Core i7 950
Gigabyte GA-X58-UD3R
Corsiar Dominator 6gb 3x2
Cooler Master N620 cpu cooler

My choice*
MSI 6850
Cooler Master GX-650 = maximum output is 750 watt

plz help me out with smps and graphic card
how much watt smps i will need to crossfire n to overclock my cpu ?
are the above mentioned smps sufficient ?

Thanks already :)
 

mizzou

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For gfx card advice post your screen resolution/# of monitors, and preferred gaming experience (i.e., what games do you play and how often)
 

cusideabelincoln

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I wouldn't recommend the GX-650 for Crossfire and overclocking. It's really more in line with a 500-550W power supply than a 650W one. My recommendation would be to get a better quality unit, like a Corsair, Antec, or Seasonic. 600W or more should do it from a good power supply.
 

BoomerD

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Corsair AX850

Or the XFX 850. (rated better by Johnny Guru)

I LIKE Corsair myself, my HX620 has been rock-solid for over 3 years.
I've been reading JG's reviews in anticipation of buying a new PSU to replace the 620 so I can use that one in a different case. The XFX 750 and 850 models both are rated as near perfect. (9.6-9.7)

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=184

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=165

The AX850 surprisingly only gets a 9. (still very good.)
 

Markfw

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I burned up a 1010 watt 85% efficient PSU (not a junk one, and OCZ which was a rebranded Fortron) using 2 GTX 470's and a I7 920@3.6 with HT on, and 4 drives, 2 hard, 2 optical, and 5 fans. So I go beyond what some think is required. Better to have more power than burn up a good PSU, that is slightly under what you need. I did this running both cards@100% load (benchmark) and the cpu@100% (F@H). In 5 minutes, I could smell smoke.

Never skimp on a PSU.
 

crazy.wingman

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the cooler master GX- 750 watt psu has an max output of 900 watt
i think this one is enough for crossfiring 2 cards an a decent overclock.
this one is the only psu in my budget :(
 

BoomerD

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the cooler master GX- 750 watt psu has an max output of 900 watt
i think this one is enough for crossfiring 2 cards an a decent overclock.
this one is the only psu in my budget :(

IMO, you can do better for a PSU.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=188

"Performance (40% of the final score) - the Coolermaster GX-750 underwhelmed in just about every way possible. Regulation was only so-so, efficiency was remarkably lower than the 80 Plus test report would have us believe, and the 3.3V rail had more ripple than the last time I did a cannonball into a pool when I was still a three hundred plus pounder. To boot, the unit wouldn't even come close to full power at forty degrees before the overtemp protection came in and shut down the party. I dearly hope that Coolermaster's shipping retail units are better performing than my sample was, but since I couldn't get my hands on one of them I'll have to score this one as I see it. I have to do a 6 here I think.

Functionality (20% of the final score) - it is interesting that the one chain of Molex connectors also has a single SATA connector on it as well. I can see situations where you might want that sort of flexibility if you're upgrading an old system that still uses a bunch of older hard drives and you want to stick that one new SATA model in there without having to break out the actual SATA cable chains this unit has going on. It would suck if you only had to use one SATA connector and ended up having to hide the three others on each of those chains. So, that's a little bit of a nice feature. Also nice is the cable sleeving that goes right into the case. I do think this unit could benefit from being modular, but I can't fault it for not being modular. Still, I do find that one Molex chain to be a little bit on the long side, so a point will come off for that. 9.

Value (30% of the final score) - one advantage of waiting on a retail unit that's never arrived is that this model has had plenty of time to get into the marketplace. Provantage is selling this model for $89.75 as I type this. That's actually not too bad a price, but when you consider the performance of this unit and that the XFX 650W unit from the same vendor is a few bucks cheaper, I would have to say you're better off either going for that XFX and giving up the last 100 watts this unit can't easily put out anyway or spend a few bucks more to get a good 750W unit. 6.

Aesthetics (10% of the final score) - looks good to me. 9.

Performance
6

Functionality
9

Value
6

Aesthetics
9

Total Score
7

Summary

Coolermaster has a decent 600 watt unit here. The unit does pretty well for stability and efficiency, doesn't get very loud, and... what? It's a 750 watt unit?

Facepalm.

Past Coolermaster units have done pretty well here in the lab, and I'm puzzled that this one has done so poorly. I hope that next time, if there is a next time, we'll have something worth getting excited about.

The Good:

* appearance
* enough cabling to handle anything a 750W unit can power
* somewhat shallow depth

The Bad:

* cannot handle heat at 750 watts
* ripple issues on the 3.3V rail
* questionable capacitor quality

The Mediocre:

* voltage regulation
"

Newegg lists that Coolermaster at $99. There are several at about the same price that are better.
 

Markfw

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BoomerD seems to know his PSU's !

Get a good one rating wise. Almost any Crsair is good, and the XFX ones above look good also.
 

Zargon

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the 650w XFX is at that price plus a MIR and got good reviews

edit: castiel beat me, although thats the 850, which is DEFINATELY powerful enough for the OPs setup
 
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Castiel

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109.99 after MIR for a high rated silver 850W is definitely worth it.

What the hell does the SIlver rating mean anyway?
 

BoomerD

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I learn something every time I try to answer someone's questions here...

A couple of years ago, all I knew about power supplies was that you plugged them into the various components and (hopefully) everything worked.

Now, I know there are good ones and bad ones...and it's difficult (at best) to tell them apart...so I've learned to research them carefully.
The folks at Johnny Guru KNOW PSU's and their testing protocol is very tough.
If JG gives a rating of more than 9, it's gonna be a GOOD one.
 

VirtualLarry

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I burned up a 1010 watt 85% efficient PSU (not a junk one, and OCZ which was a rebranded Fortron) using 2 GTX 470's and a I7 920@3.6 with HT on, and 4 drives, 2 hard, 2 optical, and 5 fans. So I go beyond what some think is required. Better to have more power than burn up a good PSU, that is slightly under what you need. I did this running both cards@100% load (benchmark) and the cpu@100% (F@H). In 5 minutes, I could smell smoke.

Never skimp on a PSU.

Which is kind of wierd. I was running a Q6600 @ 3.6 (1.325v LLC on), and two GTX460 1GB cards @ 820Mhz, all on an EarthWatts 650W PSU. For over a month.

Do the GTX470s use that much more power than the GTX460s?
 

Markfw

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Which is kind of wierd. I was running a Q6600 @ 3.6 (1.325v LLC on), and two GTX460 1GB cards @ 820Mhz, all on an EarthWatts 650W PSU. For over a month.

Do the GTX470s use that much more power than the GTX460s?

I can't remember exactly, but I got a kill-a-watt, and a 920 W/HT @ 4 ghz takes way more than my Q6600's@3.6, and the 470's take like 80 watts each more than my 460's. So, my 2 470's and a 950@ 4100 take over 600 watts, but not sure I trust that. I just know what happened.
 

mnewsham

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Go for a higher rated psu (like boomer said) also should this be in general hardware?
 

crazy.wingman

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JG reviews are awesome.

thanx guys got the SeaSonic S12D 750 Silver 750W psu.
psu calculator says its enough for decent overclock n crossfiring 6850's.