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Evil1

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I am put a new PC together and I'm having a problem. I have a Antec Sonata case with Asus K8VSE Deluxe mobo and a AMD 64 3200+ CPU.
So for some reason everything is put together and when I turn it on I get, nothing. Just the little green light on bottom right side of the mobo. What do you think it could be? Thanks :]
 
Did you get your ATX12V cable plugged in? If you did, and it's still ignoring you, perhaps the case's power switch isn't on the right pins on the motherboard. They'd be these ones.

If that's correct too, and it STILL ignores you, then perhaps the case's power switch is faulty; try shorting those two pins momentarily with a metal object to see if it starts when you take the direct approach.

Welcome to the Forums, hope that helps 🙂
 
The ATX12V cable is plugged in, and the power switch is on the right pins. Also I have all the fans plugged in like the cpu fan the pwr fan are all hook up. Still not one fan will spin.
 
Try using a metal object to directly connect the ATX Power Button pins, like this photo shows, and tell me if it starts then. In the photo, the screwdriver tip's touching the wrong row of pins, it should be the row closer to the bottom.
 
I don't have a cha fan hook up so would that screw things up at all. For that case I think that I plug the fan in the back into a different place. going to try the metal thing next.
 
The board will run with no fans plugged into it (not even a CPU fan) so that's not going to be it. I did see a few people recently who didn't quite realize they needed to have the motherboard separated from the case's motherboard tray by standoffs (photo)... if you didn't use standoffs, go ahead and get those in there too.
 
I have that on there. You don't thing that I might have a bad mobo do you.
Last year I build my moms P4 that I'm using right now and I did have any problems like this. :{
 
Truth is stranger than fiction sometimes 🙁

I'm curious to hear whether it decided to fire up with the direct metal approach or not. If it didn't, the next thing I'd do is to take it out of the case and benchtest it laying on its own cardboard box, like this (4th and 5th photos). That eliminates drives, case USB wiring and the rest of the case as potential electrical issues, and boils it down to your core hardware. If your video card requires an auxiliary power plug from the power supply, don't forget that when it's outside the case.

Let's say it STILL won't run, outside the case with the essentials on it. Next thing to do: strip the board absolutely bare. No CPU, no fan, no video card, no memory, no nothin'. Bare motherboard on a piece of cardboard. Plug in the main and secondary ATX power cables from the PSU, and try again to start the board with a piece of metal on the Power Button pins. The power supply's fans should start running and stay running. The board may emit a bunch of beep codes. That would be a step in the right direction, at least it does something.

Also, if you can put the RAM and video card into another computer to verify them as working, that helps narrow down the list of suspects. Hang in there 😛
 
Will have everything up and running, but now I get a reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key.

Also I have a 74g WD raptor for my main drive that the bios does not see but it see the 40g WD that I have and the DVD-ROM. In addition I don't have a Floppy do I need one? Thanks
 
ok, i think i have the same problem...here's my setup

chieftec dragon ultra case + 580W 'ultra' power supply (not the best, but the amperes are very similar to the antec true power480 ... and higher in some instances

amd 643200+ and the asus k8vse deluxe (yea for retail...)

along those components i had 2 case fans, a maxtor 160gb drive, and an OEM NEC dvd-R plugged in...

on the case i have a stick of OCZ pc3200 platinum 512 and a leadtek winfast TV tuner card plugged in

i tried the metal thing but the LED lights up and nothing happens......i'm really worried now on what is causing the problem. I'm assuming that the power supply is decent, but is something else broken?
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Originally posted by: gan911
ok, i think i have the same problem...here's my setup

chieftec dragon ultra case + 580W 'ultra' power supply (not the best, but the amperes are very similar to the antec true power480 ... and higher in some instances

amd 643200+ and the asus k8vse deluxe (yea for retail...)

along those components i had 2 case fans, a maxtor 160gb drive, and an OEM NEC dvd-R plugged in...

on the case i have a stick of OCZ pc3200 platinum 512 and a leadtek winfast TV tuner card plugged in

i tried the metal thing but the LED lights up and nothing happens......i'm really worried now on what is causing the problem. I'm assuming that the power supply is decent, but is something else broken?
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Welcome to the Forums gan911 🙂 First thing to check: make sure your case's Power Button wire is plugged onto the right pins like shown here: picture Check the rear of the PSU to confirm it's set to the right voltage for where you live (115 volts or 230 volts).

If that doesn't work, try going to the benchtest-on-cardboard setup with just the core items: video card, CPU/heatsink, one memory module, keyboard, and of course the PSU with both ATX cables plugged in. Don't forget your video card's power cable if it takes one. Leave out the drives and the TV-tuner card. This removes a bunch of potential problems so you can focus on whether your core hardware works. Do you have another system you can use to test stuff with?
 
Originally posted by: Evil1
Will have everything up and running, but now I get a reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key.

Also I have a 74g WD raptor for my main drive that the bios does not see but it see the 40g WD that I have and the DVD-ROM. In addition I don't have a Floppy do I need one? Thanks
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You're making headway 🙂 I think you're going to need to scrounge a floppy drive for setup purposes. I'd use the VIA SATA controller, which is the SATA1 and SATA2 jacks on this model. There are three Makedisk.exe files on your board's CD-ROM, one of which is intended for the VIA SATA controller (you can tell because this Makedisk.exe is in a folder that has VIA in its name). Run that particular Makedisk.exe to make the necessary driver diskette for the VIA SATA controller.

In the motherboard's BIOS, you will want to enable SATA BOOT ROM item shown on page 4-23 of the manual, which I think is a couple layers into the BIOS menus under Advanced > Southbridge Configuration > Onchip Devices Configuration (roll with the punches, it's in there somewhere). You may also need to go into Boot and rummage through the menus to get it to understand that you want the Raptor to be the boot drive, particularly if you also have an IDE drive in the system too.

Hope that helps you through the rest of it. Make sure you don't let it connect to the Internet without a firewall and/or current antivirus protection or you might end up doing this stuff again real soon 😉 More on that here.
 
cardboard box steup ... check it works!
now back into the case....and it stopped working

i have those little golden risers on....should i keep them on or take them off? any other ideas?
i do have some extra risers installed...maybe i should just keep the risers in the four corners? i was worried about stability of the mobo
 
Originally posted by: gan911
cardboard box steup ... check it works!
now back into the case....and it stopped working

i have those little golden risers on....should i keep them on or take them off? any other ideas?
i do have some extra risers installed...maybe i should just keep the risers in the four corners? i was worried about stability of the mobo
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You'll want one golden riser for each hole in the motherboard, no more, no less. For your board, that means nine of them, page 2-2 of your manual has them circled in blue.

When you're putting the motherboard into the case, also keep an eye on the springy finger things that the ports peek out of in the back of the case. If you're not careful, they can sneak into the ports, particularly the USB ports and network port. Some of them are designed to rest on top of the port blocks, like this (second photo from the bottom, click for a close-up).
 
well, i installed the mobo with 4 of them....it works, i don't think i'll bug with it for a while, i mean what kinda damage can it do esp when it just sits there

btw i'm getting a weird smell outa my psu...could it be just because its new?
 
New ones can give off a bit of chemical smell for a while, yeah. Good to hear it's up and running 🙂
 
Now you upgrade to SCSI and forget the whole SATA thing :evil: Hehe...

ok ok 😛 so now... lessee here... in Section 5.7 of the manual, they discuss the VIA SATA controller. You should see it show a screen during startup, where it detects the hard drive. It has its own dedicated mini-BIOS that you enter by pressing the Tab key during POST. Now you can define the drive as a RAID1 array so the controller has something to show Windows Setup when Windows Setup comes looking. I don't actually use the VIA or Promise SATA controllers myself, so adapt & overcome if I've skipped a step here.
 
The main worry I would have with just four standoffs is that the board will flex when you are plugging in or unplugging cards, cables and memory. That's not necessarily the end of the world, but at the same time, I've built quite a lot of computers and never had any problem when using standoffs where the motherboard's designed to have them.
 
I just want the Raptor has my primary HD and I don't want it write any date to my 40g Slave HD.
Do I have to use the Raptor in a RAID 1 or can I use It in a different way?

In My old Dell I had a 10g IDE and the 40 as the slave.
 
SATA controllers vary. Unplug your 40GB drive for now and try the one-disk SATA RAID1 thing. It won't matter if there's just one disk in the RAID1 array as long as it functions. Worst-case scenario, you get WinXP set up and you don't like something about it and start again. But unplug your 40GB drive so your SATA drive doesn't get bumped to drive letter E:.

When you do re-attach the 40GB drive, expect that your board may start trying to use it to boot from, and you'll need to go into the Boot menu and its sub-menus, and smack your board upside the head and tell it that by "1st hard drive," you mean the SATA drive, not the PATA drive. My K8V Deluxe tried to pull that stunt on me the other day when I dropped a PATA drive into it temporarily along with my SCSI drive. Easily fixed, just a little nuisance.
 
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