Help with hyper-v

[biostud]

Disclaimer: I have zero experience with VM

Problem: We have a dymo duo which after a windows update doesn’t work. Dymo is aware of the problem but the fix seems to far away. So I thought maybe get a VM running with windows 8.1.

I activated hyper-v in the bios installed activated hyper-v in windows (win 11 pro) and started a virtual machine.
I downloaded a windows 8.1 iso x64 from Microsoft, and tried to use it as an installer, but it simply threw an error message that it could not boot from it?

Also, since I just need to use it locally to run a USB printer, do I need to assign a network card to the VM? (I’ve already disabled my network once trying to get the VM going)

And is my project even possible?

 

[igor_kavinski]

I hate Hyper-V for this reason. Not easy to use at all.

Why not try VirtualBox or VMware player? Super easy.

VMware player may be more stable with better USB support.

 

[biostud]

I hate Hyper-V for this reason. Not easy to use at all.

Why not try VirtualBox or VMware player? Super easy.

VMware player may be more stable with better USB support.

Probably because I have zero experience with VM, is VMware player free?

 

[TheELF]

Probably because I have zero experience with VM, is VMware player free?

Yes, you download VMware and if you don't provide a key you get the free version which used to be called player.

For your issue, it's the same problem you would have on a real system, if your system is uefi it will only boot uefi discs and if it is legacy it will only boot legacy discs.

I would start with running that iso file through rufus to make an iso that is certain to work on both uefi and legacy, although MS images should work for both now, I'm not so sure about the older ones.

 

[biostud]

Yes, you download VMware and if you don't provide a key you get the free version which used to be called player.

For your issue, it's the same problem you would have on a real system, if your system is uefi it will only boot uefi discs and if it is legacy it will only boot legacy discs.

I would start with running that iso file through rufus to make an iso that is certain to work on both uefi and legacy, although MS images should work for both now, I'm not so sure about the older ones.

Rufus?

 

[Muadib]

Rufus?

Yes

Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way

Rufus: Create bootable USB drives the easy way

rufus.ie

 

[igor_kavinski]

Just install VMware player and try the ISO you have in it. If it doesn't work, create a bootable USB with Rufus using your available ISO. Attach the USB drive to your VM and let it boot from the USB drive.

 

[biostud]

Ok I'll try VMware and see if I'm more successful.

 

[biostud]

Hi guys, Thx for the help!

VMware just worked, it booted the iso no problem, I could install the dymo software and print both types of labels. If you knew how many hours, we have tried to get this working in win 11, and with your help I got it running in 30 minutes. Very much appreciated.

And now I also have experience running a VM

 

[biostud]

Is it possible to get OSX running on VMware?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Is it possible to get OSX running on VMware?

Yup but unless you have a really screaming fast CPU, don't bother. It starts good but then slows down after each reboot. Don't know but all the MacOS VMs I tried started great but with time, they lost stability and kept crashing. Maybe it's possible to get a really stable MacOS VM after understanding the ins and outs of how a Hackintosh works.

But if you love wasting time trying to configure something to work right, downloading MacOS VMs or VHD files is a great time sink.

 

[biostud]

Yup but unless you have a really screaming fast CPU, don't bother. It starts good but then slows down after each reboot. Don't know but all the MacOS VMs I tried started great but with time, they lost stability and kept crashing. Maybe it's possible to get a really stable MacOS VM after understanding the ins and outs of how a Hackintosh works.

But if you love wasting time trying to configure something to work right, downloading MacOS VMs or VHD files is a great time sink.

It would mostly be a learning environment for me to better understand OSX, and maybe do some instructional videos for our students. I run a 3800X with 16GB ram. So just fundamentals in OSX and office.

 

[igor_kavinski]

You will need this tool to patch your VMware player installation to make it run MacOS: https://github.com/paolo-projects/auto-unlocker/releases

 

[biostud]

You will need this tool to patch your VMware player installation to make it run MacOS: https://github.com/paolo-projects/auto-unlocker/releases

Is OSX something you can obtain legally for such a project?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Is OSX something you can obtain legally for such a project?

It's illegal. I guess Apple lawyers are not going after any hackintoshers because they figure such people might like the OS enough to want to buy a real Apple Mac machine. Besides, in a few years, MacOS may drop support for x86 CPUs altogether.

 

[TheELF]

It's about as illegal as jaywalking as long as you don't cause any crash nobody is going to care.

MacOS is downloadable from apple the same way that windows is, well not exactly since you have to use the app store for mac, but you can do it without having to use any license.
The EULA probably states that you can only download it if you intend to use it on a real mac and that's pretty much the most illegal part in doing this.

macOS Ventura

macOS Ventura makes the things you do most on Mac even better, with big updates to the apps you use everyday including Mail, Messages, and Safari. You can use your iPhone as a webcam for your Mac with Continuity Camera. There's also an entirely new way to automatically organize your windows with...

apps.apple.com

 

[biostud]

What version OSX would you suggest for a VM?

(I know you suggested not to do it at all, but It would mostly be to record some instructional videos for our students and for me to learn OSX better, so I could give better support)

 

[igor_kavinski]

Catalina, Big Sur and Monterey VMs all worked for me.

I didn't bother with installing any of them from ISOs. Downloaded pre-installed VMDKs. The Catalina one was different in that it was a VMDK that started the MacOS setup and then on boot, it started running MacOS.

 

[Ajay]

AFAIK, MacOS will not install on VMWare Workstation with AMD CPUs. Even with the hacks that work with Intel. ^^ Oh, you downloaded VMDKs, maybe that’s the trick. If so, would you PM me the links?

 

[biostud]

Unfortunately, our secretary uses an older computer that does not support hyper-v, so I've installed a VMware machine on my laptop, so now she either has to borrow my laptop to print labels or I have to print them for her.

Word of advice don't invest in Dymo ATM as it seems, their entire portfolio of labelprinters cannot print under a fully updated windows 10 or 11 atm, and they don't know how to fix it.

 

[lopri]

Sort of necro but Hyper-V for some reason assigns 1 CPU thread for a new VM and that seems to cause problems for some folks. Increasing the vCPU to 2 or more is the fix often times.

 

[igor_kavinski]

If so, would you PM me the links?

Did the VMDK work out well for you?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Word of advice don't invest in Dymo ATM as it seems, their entire portfolio of labelprinters cannot print under a fully updated windows 10 or 11 atm, and they don't know how to fix it.

Must have lost their one and only developer.

 

[biostud]

It seems like the latest windows 11 update finally fixed the problem. Yay!

But I now know how to make a VM, so I wouldn't have been without it

 

[igor_kavinski]

But I now know how to make a VM, so I wouldn't have been without it

Coolest thing about VM is that you can save the state, kinda like Windows Hibernate but more reliable. Especially useful if you are the type who wants to resume exactly where you left off.