Help with CPU

Zarick

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I have a barton 2800. These last few hot days have shown me I might have a cpu heat problem. I use the stock cooler and put it on exactly as the instructions have said. I am running an an35n and from what little I have read it appears that the bios cpu temp is actually coming from the socket. Right now it is 11pm in the evening and my cpu is at 49c idle. Does this mean my actual cpu is 59c idle or 39c idle?

If I take the HS/F off my cpu to reseat it will I need to buy some goop to re-goop it? or can I take the HS/F off the cpu and just reseat it to see if that works?
 

sharq

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I like that word "goop" for thermal paste :)
Generally yes, if you do remove the HSF, it is advisable (or strongly recommended) that you "re-goop" it.
The temperature question maybe someone with that board can answer better.
 

NervousNovice

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I have a friend whose Barton 2500 is always at > 55C (stock HSF) and nothing really bad happened. For 49C idle I won't worry too much about it. It's hot but is still ok. To reduce your concern, I suggest you spend some money to replace your stock HSF with something better.
 

beastgreeley

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Your BIOS temps usually read 5 deg higher than they really are,therefore 59c is fine I wouldn't mess with it.
 

Zarick

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I am worried that I will burn this thing up. That is not something I can afford to do.
 

NervousNovice

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Hotter means die faster but it won't be that fast. To burn it I suggest you not to use a heatsink. If the die were larger, I would use it to make some pancakes, and to enjoy its last moment of life.
 

Regs

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When I had a 2500 barton it ran 55-60c load. Around 51-53c idle. And this was with an alpa pal 80mm HSF. Some motherboards just read temps differently than others. Either way, it's normal and you dont have to worry unless it gets above 65c. The bartons are the hottest CPU's on the market and were stressed tested up to 80-90c without problems.
 

Zarick

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So now my house has cooled down a ton and my proc is sitting at 42c idle. So I guess It is the ambient temperature that is screwing me over.
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Regs
When I had a 2500 barton it ran 55-60c load. Around 51-53c idle. And this was with an alpa pal 80mm HSF. Some motherboards just read temps differently than others. Either way, it's normal and you dont have to worry unless it gets above 65c. The bartons are the hottest CPU's on the market and were stressed tested up to 80-90c without problems.
Where in the world did you get that idea?:roll:
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: Regs
When I had a 2500 barton it ran 55-60c load. Around 51-53c idle. And this was with an alpa pal 80mm HSF. Some motherboards just read temps differently than others. Either way, it's normal and you dont have to worry unless it gets above 65c. The bartons are the hottest CPU's on the market and were stressed tested up to 80-90c without problems.
Barton != Thunderbird.
Bartons are actually some of the coolest that offer decent performance.
Also, not only do mobos read differently, but the HSF used affects it as well. The socket temp is the very bottom of the CPU, and small HSFs, or designs with air moving down and out will read lower temps. Something like the PAL8045 pulling out will read completely different.
My next mobo is going to read the diode, by God!
 

Dman877

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Originally posted by: Regs
When I had a 2500 barton it ran 55-60c load. Around 51-53c idle. And this was with an alpa pal 80mm HSF. Some motherboards just read temps differently than others. Either way, it's normal and you dont have to worry unless it gets above 65c. The bartons are the hottest CPU's on the market and were stressed tested up to 80-90c without problems.

Prescott>Northwood~=Barton>A64 in terms of heat right now.
 

Maximilian

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Originally posted by: Dman877
Originally posted by: Regs
When I had a 2500 barton it ran 55-60c load. Around 51-53c idle. And this was with an alpa pal 80mm HSF. Some motherboards just read temps differently than others. Either way, it's normal and you dont have to worry unless it gets above 65c. The bartons are the hottest CPU's on the market and were stressed tested up to 80-90c without problems.

Prescott>Northwood~=Barton>A64 in terms of heat right now.

yea i thought the same, there is a reason why people call prescott the toaster. (i think its the toaster)
 

Regs

Lifer
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Ok, one of the hottest on the market. According to some graphs, even on this site, the Barton has the highest Idle temp while the Prescott has it beat by by a huge margin under load. Still, you're fine.
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: Regs
Ok, one of the hottest on the market. According to some graphs, even on this site, the Barton has the highest Idle temp while the Prescott has it beat by by a huge margin under load. Still, you're fine.
OK on

this article on Anandtech it is the hottest, but compared to tbreds and older, it is not hot. The 1.4 Thunderbird and the early Athlons and Athlon XP's were pretty hot. The Barton is much better than those. But I was surpriced to find that of most of todays CPU's it is one of the hottest (prescott the hottest, P4 3.2 next, then Barton)
 

Regs

Lifer
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The article I think was accurate. My Barton ran high idle temps but only increased 2c and maybe up to 8c at the most during summer under load.


Im sure you can cook a raw burger on a Prescott under load.