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Eureka

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129179 with promo code for $70. And a quiet case to boot.

Where are you located? Microcenter, if you have one near you, will give you an i5 for 190 or an i7 for 290, and will take off 50 from a motherboard if you buy them together. i5 with an asrock extreme4 will run you 275 + tax, and is worth the extra effort since the extreme4 is a bit nicer.

I would not get an i7. Unless you need to do video editing or other cpu-intensive items very often, you can wait for the extra time it takes to do those things without HT. For gaming, it doesn't really matter as much. Just push the i5 up to 4.5ghz and you're set.

SSDs are cheap now; I've seen 256gb for 150 and 128gb for 80. You will see a much GREATER gain with a SSD than with an i7. It's no contention. Get a 600W power supply for around $50-60. Get a Radeon 7950 (which is going for $250 now).

To break it down:
i5 + motherboard: ~$300 after tax
memory: ~50 for 16gb, 30 for 8gb ddr3 1600
ssd: ~100 depending on what size you get and what deal you find
2tb hard drive: ~100
7950: 250
psu: ~60
P280: 70

That's only $930. You really want to have the SSD, and manage space on a second drive, because you will see HUGE performance gains. Right now my pc, with an i5 and ssd, will go from power button push to windows desktop in around 15 seconds (no joke, the window logo doesn't even finish loading). You can put stuff on the 2tb drive, your games or whatnot. In most computers now, the top bottleneck is the hard drive.

The 7950 is more than plenty for what you need, especially if your monitor is still 1280x1024. Even up to 1920x1200 the 7950 will do alright. If not, it's an extra $100, which puts your total at $1030. And if you must have an i7, that's only $1130 total for everything.

Do the SSD. Going from an i5 to i7, or having more RAM, doesn't compare to putting your operating system on a SSD. You can put your VSTs and audio stuff on the 2TB drive, by directing it in Windows.
 
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faceplant710

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Thanks for the comments-

@Eureka-

I live near Scranton Pa (yes of The Office fame) and the closest microcenter is philly.. not getting down there anytime soon unfortunately.

That's an awesome breakdown... though honestly I think I'm going to go for the 7970. I'd like the rig to be able to handle games well (high/ultra/max for a while)- not just "satisfactory" plus I will end up getting a 1920 monitor for Christmas.

I don't plan to OC at all so getting my i5 to 4.5 isn't happening.. if I did go for HT I'd go with the Xeon but I think with the amount of editing I do I can get away with the i5.

I don't see a reason to get a 600w PSU though honestly it can't really hurt to have one at that price.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the main advantage to SSD is speed for programs right? So I would ideally put my Os and games on the SSD and leave everything else for the SATA (save maybe some editing programs).. correct? Interesting that the bottleneck nowadays is actually the HD...

Thanks again everyone!
 

infoiltrator

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HD 7970 is about 270-310 watt factory overclocked
I5 3570K is 77 watt
HDD about 10 watts max, usually much less,
Any good 400-500 psu should be fine (max on both CPU and GPU is rare outside of benchmarks, folding etc).
 

mfenn

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HD 7970 is about 270-310 watt factory overclocked
I5 3570K is 77 watt
HDD about 10 watts max, usually much less,
Any good 400-500 psu should be fine (max on both CPU and GPU is rare outside of benchmarks, folding etc).

Yep, a 500-550W is plenty. Even with an overclocked LGA 2011 i7, a 7950 only draws about 350W at the wall while playing Metro 2033.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the main advantage to SSD is speed for programs right? So I would ideally put my Os and games on the SSD and leave everything else for the SATA (save maybe some editing programs).. correct? Interesting that the bottleneck nowadays is actually the HD...

Yes, that's correct. Put your OS, applications, and as many games as you can fit on the SSD. Put music, videos, etc. on the HDD. Everything on the system is so much faster when an SSD is involved, its kind of hard to go back to an HDD once you get used to it.