Help Wanted: Detroit dumps felony question from job applications..

[PingSpike]

so you are in favor of keeping a man down for a felony he committed 20+ years ago did his time and has been a good boy ever since his slip up? gee thats mighty human of you.

What do you want, a fucking medal? I never got to commit any felonies!

 

[OutHouse]

What do you want, a fucking medal? I never got to commit any felonies!

what?

 

[Eli]

Detroit --The City Council today unanimously voted to change city law to remove a question about felony convictions from job applications.

In doing so, the city joins numerous cities nationwide that have done so. Advocates say removing the question until later in the hiring process helps to provide second chances to as many as 10,000 felons who are released from prison each year and return to Detroit.​

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LOL. This makes it seem like all felons move to Detroit after being released from the joint.

 

[BoomerD]

What do you want, a fucking medal? I never got to commit any felonies!

You shoulda gotten out of your mom's basement more often...there were lots of opportunities to commit felonies...I know...I found quite a few...

I agree that a person who's done his time SHOULD be considered to have "paid his debt to society," but I realize that, unfair as it may seem, a felony record MAY indicate an applicant's worthiness for a job. Why would you hire a convicted thief for a job that handles cash or other disbursements? How about a convicted pedophile working around kids?

My felonies didn't involve any type of theft, (I ar KNOT a thief) nor any type of sex crimes...(well, not that I was ever arrested for anyway) but I've still been turned down for a couple of jobs in my life because of the (more than 35 year old) felony record. Only a couple of times while working construction, (last time was a job at Lawrence Livermore Labs) but since graduating from college, I've been turned down a couple of times during the process...because of that ancient felony record.

Oh well...life's a bitch, then you get run over by one.
Move the fuck on...

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

I'm actually okay with this. I hate the fact that people who get convicted of felonies, even if they never served a day in jail, are basically screwed for the rest of their lives when it comes to getting a good job regardless of what type of felony we're talking about.

They need to just take it a step further and say that they are not allowed to even ask the question. If we are a society that truly believes a person has served their time and therefore should be allowed to continue with their lives then we shouldn't continue to label them after that time has been served.

Are you fucking kidding me? Private businesses have the right to hire who they want. And most businesses don't want to hire people who have been convicted of burglary, grand theft auto, larceny, money laundering, battery, etc.

 

[Marinski]

You I'll reply to, sir.

Even someone with a heinous crime on their record 20 years ago who's already paid their debt to society (they'd have to be older in this scenario) had time to pick themselves up, dust themselves off, change their life, become an upstanding member of society etc (like I described in fewer words in what you quoted) is worth far more to me than someone who's only just recently served their time and has no track record (this is the important part) to show that they're no longer willing to break the law. Taking a felon onto your payroll puts the company at risk. I'd be much more inclined to take said risk if the felon has some sort of proof to show that they're trust worthy again.

Weed isn't important, I just picked it because it was the first thing that came into my head when I was trying to think of something petty that could still get you a felony.

It's the same reason my roommate and I ask about felonies when we interview roommates.

Sorry Im not worthy of a response. I still disagree with your statement. If you're comparing murderers to murderers I see your point but not murderers to petty crime like smoking weed. Either way, I would throw both applications out and hire somebody that isn't a criminal.

 

[Nik]

The scenario was between two specific applications: one with a felony and no track record of trust and one with a felony with a long track record of trust.

Pick one.

Also, don't think I was begrudging you a reply. Zim's been around a long time, we've gotten into it before, and I know he'll absolutely skewer me if I don't have my shit together so I thought it was prudent to further explain myself.

 

[BurnItDwn]

LOL. This makes it seem like all felons move to Detroit after being released from the joint.

I think the more likely event, is that almost everybody who isn't a felon has moved out of detroit ....

 

[Marinski]

The scenario was between two specific applications: one with a felony and no track record of trust and one with a felony with a long track record of trust.

Pick one.

Also, don't think I was begrudging you a reply. Zim's been around a long time, we've gotten into it before, and I know he'll absolutely skewer me if I don't have my shit together so I thought it was prudent to further explain myself.

Its all good. Not knowing what the crimes are I agree with you.

 

[dabuddha]

God shoot me, I actually agree with Nik and Blahblah :/

As someone who would be hiring a new employee, I'll almost always pick a person whose never committed a crime over someone who has if they're both equally qualified. The non criminal just shows better judgment.

 

[Malak]

Now if people will stop putting the caucasian crap in where it should just say white.

 

[Nik]

Now if people will stop putting the caucasian crap in where it should just say white.

Good thinking, that'll save $0.000000000004 in ink per application :awe:

 

[Malak]

Good thinking, that'll save $0.000000000004 in ink per application :awe:

Are you from here?

 

[Nik]

Are you from here?

My family is from Russia/Prussia.

Why do you ask?

 

[Malak]

My family is from Russia/Prussia.

Why do you ask?

That actually makes sense if that is true.

 

[Nik]

It is. What makes sense? Your point went way over my head, I think.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Now if people will stop putting the caucasian crap in where it should just say white.

Why?

 

[FallenHero]

should've thought twice about committing that felony.

Because people never ever ever make mistakes that they regret for the rest of their lives, right?

 

[zinfamous]

Why?

b/c I ain't no commie Rooskie!! Are you???

 

[Malak]

It is. What makes sense? Your point went way over my head, I think.

I don't expect you to get it, but I might not be the only one to see it. I don't mean that as an insult at all so don't get the wrong impression.

 

[Nik]

none taken, but