HELP....VIA KT133 and g-force...something is terribly wrong

[Fizz]

I just rebuilt my system with an AMD 900mghz on a gigabyte GA-7ZX and my old g-force with the new Nvidia drivers, and for some reason when I first started playing Tribes I kept having lockups, I was told to put in the new 4 in1 drivers which I did, so then everytime I would just go to open tribes it would shut down my comp, I then unistalled everything and installed the previos 4 in1's and still the same problem, so I thought maybe it was tribes I uninstalled and reinstalled twice and no change, so then I installed unreal tournament to see if I had a problem with that and the answer is YES, so what is the deal here is this VIA chipset (which I thought was supposed to be a good thing) a problem just looking to happen
Are there any suggestions, no matter what game I try it just shuts off my compe or gives me an error message like; illegal operation or invalid page foult at bff7:8dd5b1....................HELP this has stolen the thing I most use this thing for from me....gamiing

 

[Mem]

Don`t ust the latest Detonator3 drivers go back to Detonator2 drivers,there is a problem with the KT133 & DETONATOR3 drivers which will be resolved in the next update(6.20)

click here for drivers

Btw ,I`m using a VIA board MSI K7T PRO(KT133 CHIPSET)& have had no problems with Detonator2 drivers on gaming.

 

[Fizz]

OK, I have now tried the 4in1's both the 425s and the 424s also the detonator 3 drivers and the detonator 2s with the 424 4in1s I can't get my tribes up every other time, the times it won't come up it shuts my computer down just as if I hit my reboot button, it does the same thing with both the detonator 2 and 3 drivers, unreal tournament won't come up at all but it does not shut down my comp. alsowhen my screen saver comes up it stops and say the old illegal op. message....help

 

[midknight]

Same here, Fizz. My system is a Chaintech 7AJA (also has the VIA KT133 chipset) with a T-Bird 900, and a Creative Geforce DDR card.

I get the same results in 98, 98se and ME, but I'm now running ME as the system restore makes testing driver combos easier. Anyway, if I install either the 4.03 (from 4.23) or 4.03d (from 4.25a) AGP driver then 3DMark2000 hangs after about 20 seconds (similiar problems happen in real games as well, but 3DMark makes testing the stability a lot easier). Without the driver in place, everything is ok, but I get terrible performance - 2398 3DMarks looks much slower than what I get up until a crash with the driver in place.

I've tried checking for IRQ conflicts, and there don't appear to be any; I've turned 4xAGP and fast writes off, I've bought a bigger power supply and added some cooling, but no dice.


Anyone?

 

[hungrypete]

My system is fine with det3s and I run KT133. Only problem is a goofy blue screen on shutdown telling me to restart my computer.... Games never crash, even with agp 4x and sideband and fastwrites enabled. This is under Win ME. I'm currently using the 6.26 driver. BTW on my little bros KT7 I had to put in the 5.22 (i think) because Everquest did wierd stuff. Check out the geforce faq for lots of "quick fix" type stuff...

 

[jpprod]

BSODs/lockups at any 3D accelerated sound pretty serious, could it be a resource conflict? Have you tried your system without the sound card? Non-patched, Liveware3 is buggy and can cause problems.

 

[midknight]

Certainly that should help Fizz; I've read about similiar problems as well, along with problems with the old soundblaster emulation on the Live. Unfortunately, I've got an ISA SB64, and the changes in the geforcefaq don't seem to help...

 

[midknight]

Fixed it! The problem was one of my memory sticks. It seems that the new Via and Tbird setup is more demanding on my memory than the old Celery box, so when I ran big 3D games they eventually start using that dodgy memory for AGP texture transfer and BANG! everything died. Of course, now I've only got 128Mb left, but at least I've got a 5k+ 3DMark!

 

[Mem]

midknight ,What ram are you using & what ram was causing the problem? I`m using Crucial PC133 CAS2 ram & it`s rock solid.

 

[Henry Kuo]

AMD is very picky on RAM. Crucial and Mushkin should be the best RAM for AMD (as you can see what simply use them for our testing).

From my experience, when you get an AMD system, always spend more bucks to get a better RAM.

 

[jpprod]

AMD is very picky on RAM.

What a silly sentence. Memory pickiness varies greatly even among motherboards using the very same chipset, it's certainly not the CPU (or CPU manufacturer) that's picky on RAM.

 

[Henry Kuo]

??? I don't understand what's wrong with that "silly sentence." I am just trying to say that since AMD "systems" have a high demand on RAM quality. If I didn't make myself clear enough, sorry about that. My english clarify level definitely is not qualified as a hardware reviewer. I just hope everyone on AnandTech can understand my reviews on motheboards.

 

[sandorski]

The sentence is silly because it puts the blame on the wrong part/person/company.

 

[Henry Kuo]

fine, i meant amd SYSTEMS. sorry about that

 

[midknight]

The memory was some old no-name (MEC chips) CAS3 PC100 that I originally bought ~2.5 years ago for clocking a Celeron 266 to 400 (aah, those were the days). I've a suspicion that I'm not doing a T-Bird 900 any favours by running it with 128Mb of CAS3 PC100 memory, but it beat shelling out for a whole load of new memory at the same time as buying everything else.

So anyway, as the memory still works back in the currently being rebuilt second box for sampling etc (its getting wired into the home cinema so I can use my TNT's TV out rather than buying a second monitor, as all its got to do is sample vinyl and cut CDs) I can only conclude that you're right - the AMD system is less tolerant of barely in spec memory than my old machine was.