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M90

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by any chance have any of you taken computer courses or have you all learnt on your own
 

Attrox

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Originally posted by: M90
heres some stuff i dun get http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=Njk2LDM= when it starts talking about 2XAA/8XAF

I suggest you to start from the basic first. Don't go over reading Anti Aliasing and things like that because that's more applicable to image/3d performance (for gaming) IMO. 1 thing I can suggest is for you to try assembling your own computer, you can gain a lot of experience and starting knowledge that way.

Edit: After you are comfortable doing this then start reading up about how to overclock the performance of you comp.
 

shilala

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Originally posted by: Kasper4christ
:p shilala while sounding a bit rude IMO is quite right, sometimes it is important to look things up for yourselfs, but if you think about it, if nobody ever asked, who woulda written guides in the first place? this is an excellent place to ask for advice/help and its wonderful that you've come looking for it. I would suggest that you do read as much as possible, and report back and ask if you have questions on what you read.
AA and AF are AntiAliasing and Antistropic Filtering respectivly, they are filter layers i guess you could say, that the video card applys to the 3d app that you see (like a game) to improve the overall look of whatever your looking at, usually at a noticable impact on your frame rate
That was rude, wasn't it? My apologies M90. I need to spend more time reading what I write.

 

M90

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Thanks for the help I want to get a job now so that I wont have to keep using the piece that im using now.;):(:eek::disgust::D:|
 

Philippine Mango

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Originally posted by: M90
Well heres the deal. Im a new person to the "technical" part of computers. Only a couple of months ago, I learned how to build a new computer. My skills are slightly above the average computer user. I still do not fully understand what many of the aberviations mean, especially when video cards are discussed and it involves the depth/detail that the card can produce.

Ok to the point; I'm going to apply for my first job at my local computer store. When I went in to talk to a couple of the guys there about the job, one of them said I should read lots of reviews on this site and a couple others so that I have product knowledge because they'll give me a lttle test when I apply for the job. Although I'm pretty sure I won't get the job, it's a job experience. I want the best possible chance I can get, so if any of you experts could give me some tips orexplain how some things work that would be great.

The jobs that I'm applying for are a salesman, but I might just go with cashier.

Edited by:justanaverageguy

I learned how to build a new computer My skills are slightly above the average computer user
Woa, those two things shouldn't be in the same paragraph! An above average computer user and one who builds thier own machine really don't belong together. When I was a kid (about 3 or 4) I really got into computers. I started off with dos then a little bit of Windows 3.1 and by the time Windows 95 came around I knew quite a bit about computers (as much as my mom who used to be very proficient in computers). Figured out everything on my own, explored windows, tried out different things and by the time I was very proficient (relatively) in computers I was in the 4th grade.

But I still didn't open up the computer because I wanted to learn all about the components so I read some books and checked online (early online) and gained some knowledge. I finally opened up the machine and was astonished to see how many components there were in there, so I asked a few people about what was what and they helped me a little and then after forming my foundation for the internal workings I was then able to do my own research. By the time I was in the 6th grade I could fully Disassmeble a pre built machine and rebuild it agian with no help at all. I could also point out all of the parts in the machine, and most on the motherboard. I knew what each acronym was and what it stood for (these were the pentium days so vesa bus was gone BTW) and I learned these with out any help at all.

Since you know what AGP is and PCI, I feel that you have a sufficient knowledge base and should go learn on your own with out us helping you. Go read some books about computers, hardware and software, check online (not forums but web pages and just absorb it, even if it's not completely accurate) because when you do speak of it (after gaining some knowledge), then you will have some sort of knowledge base and if it's not correct then some one can correct you on it later and then you will learn some more. I feel (IMO) that your a little late in the game and should do quite a bit of catching up, especially if you think of working at a computer shop because they can hire an average user but to hire an advanced/expert user would be a real asset to the store/company. Gaining some real knowledge (not just screwin around on the machine but book knowledge) which would make it much more likely for you to be hired. Unless you think you will study like you?re in school, wait at least 2 years before thinking of going into any field because it looks like you should do some serious reading.

BTW here is a tip I recently learned from a teacher in college, if you do it the correct way the last time you did it, then you will do it agian the correct way just as you did it last time. What he was trying to say was if you jackup a car properly or use the oven correctly etc.. then you will do it agian the correct way the next time you do it. Take this into consideration with your writing, if you spell something wrong and you know it, then go back and correct it so when you do type agian it will always or usually be correct. Try to use punctuation, proper sentance structure and grammar so you will sound intelligent. This can be VERY VERY helpful when writing papers. One time I had to write a 3 page essay for english in about 1 hour so I thought it out and typed it up kind of quickly (about 40-60words a minute) and printed it about 20 minutes before class (ran out the door after it printed). So whenn I arrived I turned it in as class was starting and when I got it back she only could find 2 spelling errors. They were simply errors like missing letters since I normally take 25 minutes to get to class and lost track of time therfore being in a hurry.

I hope this has helped you and I'm sorry for having to give you my story but it was really the only way I could think of to show you why you need to not ask people on anandtech forums about acronyms for specific buses and devices. Also to help you type with the least amount of errors because they can become very distracting.

Also another helpful tip is when you type very big paragraphs in small font (which can make finding errors difficult) is to copy it into word to see if there are any. Just did and found only 2 grammar errors (forgot the 're in "you're" and some thing else like sentance splicing or something (I'm sure theres probably much more sentance splicing like right now!)

And End.
I get a :cookie: now!
 

JustAnAverageGuy

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

I learned how to build a new computer My skills are slightly above the average computer user
Woa, those two things shouldn't be in the same paragraph!

Perhaps that was just a problem with the way I interpreted what he wrote. There was another word in that sentence somewhere, but I couldn't figure out what it was supposed to be.
 

M90

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Thank you for your opinion. I will keep reading books and articles that I see on the web, I find it amazing that at the age of 4 you took an intrest in computers and by grade 6 you could completly rebuild a computer (to bad no one turned me onto computers at the age of 4!). Unfortinitly were i live im among the most knowlagble people when it ocmes to computers.
 

jagec

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biostud

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: shilala
Spelling, grammar and opposable thumbs are what seperate us from the apes.

Since when do apes not have opposable thumbs?
WTF? They don't! Have you ever seen an ape touch the tip of the thumb to the tip of another finger?

google image search gives me this article...check out the fourth pic down

How do apes grasp things without opposable thumbs?

psykokinesis
 

Muadib

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M90, I would advise you to get info on A+ certification. It will give you the basics you seek.
 

cmdrmoocow

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At 15, you still have time to dig yourself out of the language disability pit you are in - and make sure that you do.

Read everything. Just read.

In particular, know what AMD (speed and price) has versus what Intel (name and production capability) at the moment, and know that these things have changed since the past.
 

Philippine Mango

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: shilala
Spelling, grammar and opposable thumbs are what seperate us from the apes.

Since when do apes not have opposable thumbs?
WTF? They don't! Have you ever seen an ape touch the tip of the thumb to the tip of another finger?

google image search gives me this article...check out the fourth pic down

How do apes grasp things without opposable thumbs?

WTF is up with the apes man!? Lets end it with giving a visual image of an ape, they have hands on their "legs" and on their "arms", think of your hand where their leg and arms are and see how they have opposable thumbs. Do you have opposable thumbs? If you think apes don't then I guess you dont which means you are hunt and pecking right now!!!
 

shilala

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Touch your thumb to your pinky. That's an opposable thumb. We're the only ones who have that.
When I say we, I mean humans. There's a lot of folks from West Virginia who don't have the chromosomal makeup to bless them with opposable thumbs.
Apes have thumbs that curl in, just as your fingers do. Their thumb and forefinger will meet, but not their thumb and and pinky.
Scientists suggest that the extra dexterity that the opposable thumb provides is why our species developed and apes did not.
Mr. Wizard has spoken.
 

thomsbrain

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you'd probably find it helpful to read the old reviews since i feel like they were often written on more of a layman's level than the newer ones, which assume you know everything. i learned pretty much everything i know about computers from anandtech.
 

lavagirl669

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Originally posted by: Attrox
Originally posted by: ohtwell
Originally posted by: M90
I am astonded that my grammer is being corrected on a forum and that people are taking thetime to do this but i will say thank you so that i can correct my grammer
Nothing here should astound you. ATOT is full of what we call "grammar police". It's something you have to get used to. :D


: ) Amanda

Watch out for the "WRONG FORUM" comment too :D

Nik's not here right now, so he's safe....
 

cirthix

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Originally posted by: lavagirl669
Originally posted by: Attrox
Originally posted by: ohtwell
Originally posted by: M90
I am astonded that my grammer is being corrected on a forum and that people are taking thetime to do this but i will say thank you so that i can correct my grammer
Nothing here should astound you. ATOT is full of what we call "grammar police". It's something you have to get used to. :D


: ) Amanda

Watch out for the "WRONG FORUM" comment too :D

Nik's not here right now, so he's safe....


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