Help the noob

hevnsnt · Nov 28, 2004

We have nothing better to do..

brigden · Nov 28, 2004

Holy fvck I love this place!

ohtwell · Nov 28, 2004

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
We have nothing better to do..

Yep!

: ) Amanda

JustAnAverageGuy · Nov 28, 2004

Originally posted by: M90
I am astonded that my grammer is being corrected on a forum and that people are taking thetime to do this but i will say thank you so that i can correct my grammer

yoose misunderestimate the frei tyme us has two fyx thignz

M90 · Nov 28, 2004

It was helpfull thou even more so if I did now allready know how to build a comp but, now I know what the inside of the case I am going to buy looks like

ohtwell · Nov 28, 2004

Originally posted by: M90
I am astonded that my grammer is being corrected on a forum and that people are taking thetime to do this but i will say thank you so that i can correct my grammer

Nothing here should astound you. ATOT is full of what we call "grammar police". It's something you have to get used to.

: ) Amanda

Lonyo · Nov 28, 2004

Who needs Word spellcheck when you have ATOT?!

M90 · Nov 28, 2004

lol you made me smile.

JustAnAverageGuy · Nov 28, 2004

Originally posted by: M90
lol you made me smile.

HomeBrewerDude · Nov 28, 2004

Impressive teenbonics.

ahh...you edited.

M90 · Nov 28, 2004

so how about some tips?

hevnsnt · Nov 28, 2004

I remember WAAAAAAAAY back in the day, I got my first computer and was having a problem with it so I took it into bestbuy, and had a guy look at it. For some "strange" reason I couldn't boot into windows 3.11 by typing "win". The guy looked at my autoexec.bat and found that I had a ":" instead of a ";" in my path. I was astounded and amazed and I had to find out HOW he knew that. In-fact if that didn't happen, I probably wouldnt have got into computers.

I was so shocked that he was able to do that, that I had to know how he knew. So I started reading as much as I could (this was before the internet) and screwing up my system and trying to figure out how I screwed it up and fix it. My advice to you is to learn on your own, noone can teach you EVERYTHING. You know what you don't know, use google and figure it out.

JustAnAverageGuy · Nov 28, 2004

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
Impressive teenbonics.

ahh...you edited.

At least you can read it now.

M90 · Nov 28, 2004

Well my first computer is sitting im my room and the mother bored is fried because I took it apart before I knew what static electicity does to a computer.

M90 · Nov 28, 2004

Ok I need some help if im going to get a job so that I can upgrade from a compaq deskpro that has 128 megs of ram and a mother board with its own video card.

It makes me cry

jagec · Nov 28, 2004

Originally posted by: M90
Jagex I thought your guide to building a computer was helpfull.

You talking to me? Huh, didn't think anyone knew that page existed.

hevnsnt · Nov 28, 2004

Got any specific questions?

Attrox · Nov 28, 2004

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: M90
I am astonded that my grammer is being corrected on a forum and that people are taking thetime to do this but i will say thank you so that i can correct my grammer

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Nothing here should astound you. ATOT is full of what we call "grammar police". It's something you have to get used to.

: ) Amanda

Watch out for the "WRONG FORUM" comment too

M90 · Nov 28, 2004

heres some stuff i dun get http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=Njk2LDM= when it starts talking about 2XAA/8XAF

shilala · Nov 28, 2004

It's grammar, not grammer.
You will be pounded by the spelling nazis. If you're thin skinned you should find another place to post.
Try starting at google.com. You may want to copy and paste that into your browser, I'm not very confident that you'll be able to reproduce it.
Start paying attention to the things in school that you've ignored. Spelling, grammar and opposable thumbs are what seperate us from the apes.
If you want to break into an adult's world, you'll need to bring adult skills. That's what we expect of each other.
The best suggestion I've seen yet is "go to the homepage and start reading". I suggest you continue to read until it starts coming together, just as was suggested to you by "one of the guys there".

Harvey · Nov 28, 2004

Originally posted by: M90
hmm i know what agp and pci are, but what vesa local bus?

Google is your friend.

The first link goes here:

VESA Local Bus (VLB)

The first local bus to gain popularity, the VESA local bus (also called VL-Bus or VLB for short) was introduced in 1992. VESA stands for the Video Electronics Standards Association, a standards group that was formed in the late eighties to address video-related issues in personal computers. Indeed, the major reason for the development of VLB was to improve video performance in PCs.

The VLB is a 32-bit bus which is in a way a direct extension of the 486 processor/memory bus. A VLB slot is a 16-bit ISA slot with third and fourth slot connectors added on the end. The VLB normally runs at 33 MHz, although higher speeds are possible on some systems. Since it is an extension of the ISA bus, an ISA card can be used in a VLB slot, although it makes sense to use the regular ISA slots first and leave the (small number of) VLB slots open for VLB cards, which won't work in an ISA slot of course. Use of a VLB video card and I/O controller greatly increases system performance over an ISA-only system.

While VLB was extremely popular during the reign of the 486, with the introduction of the Pentium and its PCI local bus in 1994, wholesale abandonment of the VLB began in earnest. While Intel pushing PCI was one reason why this happened, there were also several key problems with the VLB implementation. First, the design was strongly based on the 486 processor, and adapting it to the Pentium caused a host of compatibility and other problems. Second, the bus itself was tricky electrically; for example, the number of cards that could be used on the bus was low (often only two or even one), and occasionally there could be timing problems on the bus when more than one card was used. Finally, the bus did not support bus mastering properly since there was no good arbitration scheme, and did not support Plug and Play.

Today VLB is obsolete for new systems; even the latest 486 motherboards use PCI, and all Pentiums and higher use PCI. However, these systems do still offer reasonable performance, and are now plentiful and very inexpensive--if you can still find them.

I don't want to join in piling on you about your grammar and spelling, but if you remember that, along with good knowledge of the field, an important aspect of sales is communication, it may help if you understand that decent language skills are a part of that. If you don't know how much RAM a customer needs, or the kind of RAM their system requires, you shouldn't be in a job that requires you to advise that customer. If you do know that, then not being able to communicate it intelligently and authoritatively, you're equally unprepared to help that customer.

Grammar is simply a structured way of presenting ideas in text. Punctuation helps define what you mean, and inserts spaces between important sections of your word groups (phrases, sentences, etc.). Paragraphs do the same thing for various idea groups within your writing. Spelling is important because it reflects on your competence. Like it or not, people will judge you by what you say and write.

Wherever you are with it, today, I hope you don't blow off improving your language and writing skills as unimportant. You can always dumb down your speech as necessary, but if you don't take the time to learn good English, you won't have the skills when you need them for your own best interest.

jagec · Nov 28, 2004

Originally posted by: shilala
Spelling, grammar and opposable thumbs are what seperate us from the apes.

Since when do apes not have opposable thumbs?

Kasper4christ · Nov 28, 2004

shilala while sounding a bit rude IMO is quite right, sometimes it is important to look things up for yourselfs, but if you think about it, if nobody ever asked, who woulda written guides in the first place? this is an excellent place to ask for advice/help and its wonderful that you've come looking for it. I would suggest that you do read as much as possible, and report back and ask if you have questions on what you read.
AA and AF are AntiAliasing and Antistropic Filtering respectivly, they are filter layers i guess you could say, that the video card applys to the 3d app that you see (like a game) to improve the overall look of whatever your looking at, usually at a noticable impact on your frame rate

Mermaidman · Nov 28, 2004

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: shilala
Spelling, grammar and opposable thumbs are what seperate us from the apes.

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Since when do apes not have opposable thumbs?

WTF? They don't! Have you ever seen an ape touch the tip of the thumb to the tip of another finger?

M90 · Nov 28, 2004

shilala i am truly amzed by your rig and i can only hope that one day I can produced some thing like that

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