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Help the n00b build a HT part 3: Speaker wire?

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Thanks to the help of the kind people of ATOT and a couple of friends, I went and got a Onkyo TX-SR501 6.1-Channel Receiver and two pairs of Paradigm Atom's for my spanking HT setup.

Now a friend tells me, "Don't just get any speaker wire. Get good stuff." So I am like, "Where do I get it?" and he is like, "I dunno," and walks away.

Any suggestions, name brands, prices of to get. I guess I am going to need a lot of it, but don't want to spend a bundle at the same time I don't want garbage being I spent more than I wanted on the speakers.
 
I don't think you need to spend $100 on monster crap but you can find some good deals for thick gauge oxygen free cable on eBay or other outlets for $0.25-$0.50 a foot depending on quantity.
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
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Seriously. If anyone tells you that you need to spend more than that on speaker cable, either they're speaking out of their ass or they have too much money.

Standard 12ga copper wire is good enough for 99% of applications. In the remaining 1%, chances are you paid more money for your speakers than some people paid for their house, in which case you pick up silver threaded engineered cables costing $100-$1000 per foot.

Monster Cable is a waste, because it costs way more than normal copper cable, offers little, if any benefit over it, and for the inflated price you pay you can get something a lot better anyhow.
 
Originally posted by: brxndxn
lol.. here come the people that think it's worth it to spend $100 on monster crap
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In all honesty, you won't buy much of Monsters "crap" with a $100 bucks. Some of their stuffs are way over priced, but they do WORK. For instance, a company I used to work for was engineering some DVI cables, and we ordered some samples from Taiwan, up to 100 ft in length. Even we have supplied them with specs and engineering data, the only cables that worked were the ones shorter than 25 ft (even at 25 ft there were some attenuation problems). The Monster cables worked flawlessly, but cost a whole lot more.

I'm not saying go out there and buy Monster cables, but do pay attention to what a cable can do, how they're shielded, and the distance that you'll be placing your speakers away from your receiver. Even the wires from Radio Shack will have these specs for you, check them out.

EDIT: I own more in Moster cables and power equipments than most invest in their HT, not because I think that they're worth all the money, but because I can.
 
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Originally posted by: brxndxn
lol.. here come the people that think it's worth it to spend $100 on monster crap
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In all honesty, you won't buy much of Monsters "crap" with a $100 bucks. Some of their stuffs are way over priced, but they do WORK. For instance, a company I used to work for was engineering some DVI cables, and we ordered some samples from Taiwan, up to 100 ft in length. Even we have supplied them with specs and engineering data, the only cables that worked were the ones shorter than 25 ft (even at 25 ft there were some attenuation problems). The Monster cables worked flawlessly, but cost a whole lot more.

I'm not saying go out there and buy Monster cables, but do pay attention to what a cable can do, how they're shielded, and the distance that you'll be placing your speakers away from your receiver. Even the wires from Radio Shack will have these specs for you, check them out.

EDIT: I own more in Moster cables and power equipments than most invest in their HT, not because I think that they're worth all the money, but because I can.
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Hasn't anyone asked you to Stop Posting yet?
 
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Originally posted by: brxndxn lol.. here come the people that think it's worth it to spend $100 on monster crap
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In all honesty, you won't buy much of Monsters "crap" with a $100 bucks. Some of their stuffs are way over priced, but they do WORK. For instance, a company I used to work for was engineering some DVI cables, and we ordered some samples from Taiwan, up to 100 ft in length. Even we have supplied them with specs and engineering data, the only cables that worked were the ones shorter than 25 ft (even at 25 ft there were some attenuation problems). The Monster cables worked flawlessly, but cost a whole lot more. I'm not saying go out there and buy Monster cables, but do pay attention to what a cable can do, how they're shielded, and the distance that you'll be placing your speakers away from your receiver. Even the wires from Radio Shack will have these specs for you, check them out. EDIT: I own more in Moster cables and power equipments than most invest in their HT, not because I think that they're worth all the money, but because I can.
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Hasn't anyone asked you to Stop Posting yet?
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WTF is your problem?
 
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Originally posted by: brxndxn lol.. here come the people that think it's worth it to spend $100 on monster crap
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In all honesty, you won't buy much of Monsters "crap" with a $100 bucks. Some of their stuffs are way over priced, but they do WORK. For instance, a company I used to work for was engineering some DVI cables, and we ordered some samples from Taiwan, up to 100 ft in length. Even we have supplied them with specs and engineering data, the only cables that worked were the ones shorter than 25 ft (even at 25 ft there were some attenuation problems). The Monster cables worked flawlessly, but cost a whole lot more. I'm not saying go out there and buy Monster cables, but do pay attention to what a cable can do, how they're shielded, and the distance that you'll be placing your speakers away from your receiver. Even the wires from Radio Shack will have these specs for you, check them out. EDIT: I own more in Moster cables and power equipments than most invest in their HT, not because I think that they're worth all the money, but because I can.
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Hasn't anyone asked you to Stop Posting yet?
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???
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WTF is your problem?
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You're the same fool telling someone that "rear speakers don't matter, buy anything". We don't need idiots who don't know jack about HT to go around giving out advice.
 
Originally posted by: Gunbuster
If you have a spool of cat5 sitting around and have a ton of free time you can do This
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Damn you, I have a spare 1000' roll of CAT5 cable at home... I know what I'll be doing this weekend.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Originally posted by: brxndxn lol.. here come the people that think it's worth it to spend $100 on monster crap
Click to expand...
In all honesty, you won't buy much of Monsters "crap" with a $100 bucks. Some of their stuffs are way over priced, but they do WORK. For instance, a company I used to work for was engineering some DVI cables, and we ordered some samples from Taiwan, up to 100 ft in length. Even we have supplied them with specs and engineering data, the only cables that worked were the ones shorter than 25 ft (even at 25 ft there were some attenuation problems). The Monster cables worked flawlessly, but cost a whole lot more. I'm not saying go out there and buy Monster cables, but do pay attention to what a cable can do, how they're shielded, and the distance that you'll be placing your speakers away from your receiver. Even the wires from Radio Shack will have these specs for you, check them out. EDIT: I own more in Moster cables and power equipments than most invest in their HT, not because I think that they're worth all the money, but because I can.
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Hasn't anyone asked you to Stop Posting yet?
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???
rolleye.gif
WTF is your problem?
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You're the same fool telling someone that "rear speakers don't matter, buy anything". We don't need idiots who don't know jack about HT to go around giving out advice.
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See... there are advice for each situation. You're the idiots that don't read and sitting there telling people that they're fools. In the thread that I advise the other guy to get anything for his rears is because his fronts and receivers aren't shiet to begin with, why would he need to waste his money? You need to stfu the next time you want to be a smart ass. I own about 10K in speakers alone, and was an electronics salesman for a while, so I think I do know more than YOU, when it comes to HT. I did not claimed to be an expert, just giving my "advice", if you don't think my advice fit, then do wtf ever you want to do with you money.
 
cr4zymofo

Nobody is denying that Monster makes decent stuff, I have a set of Monster component interconnects. I love them.

However...

For the price you'd pay for retail Monster you could do MUCH better elsewhere. I paid $20 for my component interconnects, I couldn't have done much better anywhere for that price.

I would never pay the retail price for them though.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
cr4zymofo Nobody is denying that Monster makes decent stuff, I have a set of Monster component interconnects. I love them. However... For the price you'd pay for retail Monster you could do MUCH better elsewhere. I paid $20 for my component interconnects, I couldn't have done much better anywhere for that price. I would never pay the retail price for them though. Viper GTS
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And I never said that they're the best money can buy, like I've stated, if you can, get them. Obviously every one know that they're just like Bose, great marketing. But they do perform to a certain extend, albeit not proportional to the price paid.
 
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
See... there are advice for each situation. You're the idiots that don't read and sitting there telling people that they're fools. In the thread that I advise the other guy to get anything for his rears is because his fronts and receivers aren't shiet to begin with, why would he need to waste his money? You need to stfu the next time you want to be a smart ass. I own about 10K in speakers alone, and was an electronics salesman for a while, so I think I do know more than YOU, when it comes to HT. I did not claimed to be an expert, just giving my "advice", if you don't think my advice fit, then do wtf ever you want to do with you money.
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You also went on to tell him to keep his center, and just purchase new front speakers. So basically you're telling him to throw together a system of mix matched speakers. It is best to use models from the same manufacturer for the sake of timbre-matching and your soundstage. Giving crappy advice is one thing, but you might want to possibly WARN the person of the potential problems that can arise from just throwing a system together of multiple manufactures and just "buying crappy speakers for the rear".

I'm glad you sold speakers at Best Buy, but that hardly makes you the all knowing of HT.
 
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Originally posted by: brxndxn lol.. here come the people that think it's worth it to spend $100 on monster crap
Click to expand...
In all honesty, you won't buy much of Monsters "crap" with a $100 bucks. Some of their stuffs are way over priced, but they do WORK. For instance, a company I used to work for was engineering some DVI cables, and we ordered some samples from Taiwan, up to 100 ft in length. Even we have supplied them with specs and engineering data, the only cables that worked were the ones shorter than 25 ft (even at 25 ft there were some attenuation problems). The Monster cables worked flawlessly, but cost a whole lot more. I'm not saying go out there and buy Monster cables, but do pay attention to what a cable can do, how they're shielded, and the distance that you'll be placing your speakers away from your receiver. Even the wires from Radio Shack will have these specs for you, check them out. EDIT: I own more in Moster cables and power equipments than most invest in their HT, not because I think that they're worth all the money, but because I can.
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Hasn't anyone asked you to Stop Posting yet?
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???
rolleye.gif
WTF is your problem?
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You're the same fool telling someone that "rear speakers don't matter, buy anything". We don't need idiots who don't know jack about HT to go around giving out advice.
Click to expand...
See... there are advice for each situation. You're the idiots that don't read and sitting there telling people that they're fools. In the thread that I advise the other guy to get anything for his rears is because his fronts and receivers aren't shiet to begin with, why would he need to waste his money? You need to stfu the next time you want to be a smart ass. I own about 10K in speakers alone, and was an electronics salesman for a while, so I think I do know more than YOU, when it comes to HT. I did not claimed to be an expert, just giving my "advice", if you don't think my advice fit, then do wtf ever you want to do with you money.
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You also went on to tell him to keep his center, and just purchase new front speakers. So basically you're telling him to throw together a system of mix matched speakers. It is best to use models from the same manufacturer for the sake of timbre-matching and your soundstage. Giving crappy advice is one thing, but you might want to possibly WARN the person of the potential problems that can arise from just throwing a system together of multiple manufactures and just "buying crappy speakers for the rear". I'm glad you sold speakers at Best Buy, but that hardly makes you the all knowing of HT.
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Once again you're the idiot... I did tell him to keep his center, and buy new fronts to MATCH HIS CENTER. What you ASSumptive ass don't know is that he PMed me many times, and whatever conversation in thread is just patch up. PLEASE... STFU already. And I did not work at Best Buys, thank god, because then I'll have to deal with idiots like you all day.
 
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Once again you're the idiot... I did tell him to keep his center, and buy new fronts to MATCH HIS CENTER. What you ASSumptive ass don't know is that he PMed me many times, and whatever conversation in thread is just patch up. PLEASE... STFU already. And I did not work at Best Buys, thank god, because then I'll have to deal with idiots like you all day.
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You still failed to tell the guy about the potential problems in the thread. It's not my fault you are putting misinformation in the publics eyes but sending PM's telling him different. Believe me, I've seen several of your threads about HT and I just think it's better to leave the suggestions to the experts on this board or point them to hometheaterspot or avsforums please. Thats all I ask.
 
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo Once again you're the idiot... I did tell him to keep his center, and buy new fronts to MATCH HIS CENTER. What you ASSumptive ass don't know is that he PMed me many times, and whatever conversation in thread is just patch up. PLEASE... STFU already. And I did not work at Best Buys, thank god, because then I'll have to deal with idiots like you all day.
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You still failed to tell the guy about the potential problems in the thread. It's not my fault you are putting misinformation in the publics eyes but sending PM's telling him different. Believe me, I've seen several of your threads about HT and I just think it's better to leave the suggestions to the experts on this board or point them to hometheaterspot or avsforums please. Thats all I ask.
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You just don't give up on attempting to justify your trolling do you? I give up...
 
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo Once again you're the idiot... I did tell him to keep his center, and buy new fronts to MATCH HIS CENTER. What you ASSumptive ass don't know is that he PMed me many times, and whatever conversation in thread is just patch up. PLEASE... STFU already. And I did not work at Best Buys, thank god, because then I'll have to deal with idiots like you all day.
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You still failed to tell the guy about the potential problems in the thread. It's not my fault you are putting misinformation in the publics eyes but sending PM's telling him different. Believe me, I've seen several of your threads about HT and I just think it's better to leave the suggestions to the experts on this board or point them to hometheaterspot or avsforums please. Thats all I ask.
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You just don't give up on attempting to justify your trolling do you? I give up...
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I think you need to evaluate the word Troll and get back to me. Aug 2003 - 1500 Post

Hey do you have some pictures of those 10k speakers setup in your HT? Interested to see.

Yeah and don't bother PM'ing me. I didn't ask you to.
 
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