Help suggest future proof CPU for non gaming use

[logicalxm]

Just finished reading the additional suggestions.
I decided not to go down the refurbished route or swapping hardware for a newer one because I prefer to give my dad my 6 year old i5 2500k rig and basically use it as an excuse to build myself a new rig lol

Even though the i5 2500k still meets my needs and functions well, the build is 6 years old, so maybe it is a time for an upgrade. Additionally, I won't have to deal with buying a refurbished PC.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I just put together a build, with a 2200G ($90 AP @ Newegg), an Asus B350-E Prime board (Open Box @ Newegg, $62 - 20% off promo code), and an Adata SX6000 (PCI-E 3.0 x2 only) 512GB M.2 NVMe for $98. Then I had to add some RAM, ugh, prices on that need to come down too.

 

[whm1974]

I just put together a build, with a 2200G ($90 AP @ Newegg), an Asus B350-E Prime board (Open Box @ Newegg, $62 - 20% off promo code), and an Adata SX6000 (PCI-E 3.0 x2 only) 512GB M.2 NVMe for $98. Then I had to add some RAM, ugh, prices on that need to come down too.

Larry that is a nice price for the NVMe, but would the OP really see that much difference with that compared to a SATA SSD? Especially with a low end CPU?

 

[Markfw]

Larry that is a nice price for the NVMe, but would the OP really see that much difference with that compared to a SATA SSD? Especially with a low end CPU?

I don't have numbers, but all my boxes have SSD's. The ones with NVME boot in like 7 seconds, compared to like 30 seconds on the sata ones.

 

[ericlp]

Adata SX6000 (PCI-E 3.0 x2 only) 512GB M.2 NVMe

Do you feel the Adata is worth the savings over a namebrand SSD like Samsung for about 30 bucks more?

Though, I often see, people say NVM speeds in your case 1000 MB/s Vs Samsung 850 sata @ 600 MB/s say they say that you'll probably never notice the speed gains. I guess, my main concern is reliability, yeah and warranties are great, 5 year on the samsung dunno about Adata, but, that's not my point, MTBF is more of an important # to me, since, backing up and wasting time to restore not to mention who has another SSD just sitting around to pop in if it goes bad? Yeah I suppose I could mirror on old sata drive.

Maybe it's just me, but I see picking a drive that is probably the most crucial part of the system, I try to stay with something that is going to be the most reliable. My system I chose the 960 Pro. It's just a bit faster 3500 MB/s. Obviously I'm not trying to save money.

I guess my point is, I find 30 extra bucks is worth it for energy efficient and extreme reliability. If you want something fast, pony up the cash.

 

[whm1974]

I don't have numbers, but all my boxes have SSD's. The ones with NVME boot in like 7 seconds, compared to like 30 seconds on the sata ones.

I haven't measure my boot times, but I'm sure I get less then 30 seconds. Is this with Windows 10?

 

[Markfw]

I haven't measure my boot times, but I'm sure I get less then 30 seconds. Is this with Windows 10?

Yes, win 10 pro

 

[Yongsta]

I haven't measure my boot times, but I'm sure I get less then 30 seconds. Is this with Windows 10?

My main rig is a Ryzen 7 1800X with a Samsung 960 Evo M.2. My secondary rig is an i7 2700K with a Samsung 850 Evo SATA. They're both fast but the Samsung 850 Evo SATA boots faster into Windows, although in synthetic benchmarks the Samsung 960 Evo is much faster. But just in windows and opening programs, the Samsung 850 Evo SATA feels more responsive for some reason.

 

[ericlp]

Well, just because you have this or that in your system, doesn't mean much. Just because you dropped in a faster ssd in your m2 slot doesn't always mean you get better speeds, read the motherboard specs to see if it will even support it and if it does, make sure your bios is updated to the latest version. Also, most people don't even bother to run speed tests on the SSD so, go figure! I get average 3200 read speeds. I put a cheap heatsink on mine ... 10 bucks with the rubberbands! Hey it knocked off 10C so... it doesn't run so hot! Normally runs at 45/46C

And brings up the next point, most people never read the temps on these drives, as their case has no airflow and wondering why they die so soon. If your drive is pushing past 70 C then it will RUN SLOWER. The drive thermal throttles to protect itself and not burn out. Get a 10 dollar heatsink and slap it on, I think shipping these drives out the door without proper cooling is just stupid. But... I guess to the average computer person, once it burns out, just pony up some more $, Job Security and lessons learned I guess. 1, have plenty of airflow, 2 apply a passive cooler to the drive.

Also, one should point out, that some BIOS and motherboard manufactures will boot up faster than others. Too many variables. Also, try not to install the drive directly under the video card. 🙂

 

[whm1974]

Also, one should point out, that some BIOS and motherboard manufactures will boot up faster than others. Too many variables. Also, try not to install the drive directly under the video card. 🙂

The last is why I'm not a big fan of using M.2 SDDs on desktop motherboards. If I was going to use one I would put it on a PCIe adapter card in the farthest x16/x4 slot away from the video card.

The main reason I prefer 2.5" SATA SSDs is the fact I can put it in an older computer if I have to. I had to this before to recover files off systems that died a few times.

 

[richaron]

The last is why I'm not a big fan of using M.2 SDDs on desktop motherboards. If I was going to use one I would put it on a PCIe adapter card in the farthest x16/x4 slot away from the video card.

The main reason I prefer 2.5" SATA SSDs is the fact I can put it in an older computer if I have to. I had to this before to recover files off systems that died a few times.

GPU fans move air, and air movement is good for cooling. And in many situations the farthest PCI slot is down the bottom almost against the wall of the case. Even if the bottom slot has a little breathing room this would likely be much worse for an M.2 SSD then being mounted on the motherboard adjacent to a GPU (and its fan).

 

[whm1974]

GPU fans move air, and air movement is good for cooling. And in many situations the farthest PCI slot is down the bottom almost against the wall of the case. Even if the bottom slot has a little breathing room this would likely be much worse for an M.2 SSD then being mounted on the motherboard adjacent to a GPU (and its fan).

To be clear, I'm really only likely to install an M.2 SSD in a laptop or a SFF PC. If I had to get data/files of one then I will get and use a USB adapter as that will be much easier then opening up the desktop and removing the video card in order to install one.