HELP! Something wrong with Mobile Barton

[Connoisseur]

Hey guys, I recently bought an XP-M 2200+ 35w (AQYHA stepping) to replace my xp1600+ (o/ced to 10.5x162=1.7ghz) . I also replaced my Thermaltake Volcano 9 hs with the Thermalright ALX-800. When I stuck the XP-M in the first time, it got to the windows splash screen and shut down suddenly. I reset the cmos and went to default settings and when I loaded xp it says the cpu's at 600mhz (6x100fsb)! So I restarted, went back to BIOS and changed it to (10x multiplier and 200fsb) which this chip should EASILY handle. When I got out of bios it wouldn't boot. I reset cmos again and tried it at 1.667 ghz (the default setting for this cpu) and it still wouldn't post. It seems that the cpu can't do more than 6x multi no matter what!! Can anybody help me with this?? I have no idea what's going on. I'm pretty sure I installed everything properly as cpu temps are in the low 30's. My system:
xp-m 2200+ (at 800 mhz ) w/ thermalright alx-800
Biostar M7NCD Pro
Crucial 512mb PC3200
480w Thermaltake silent purepower
3 hd's
2 opticals
Right now cpu temp is 30c and room temp is 40c.
HELP!!

 

[myocardia]

What vcore are you running it at? BTW, I haven't heard of anyone using an M7NCD with a mobile chip. Of course, since it has the same chipset as all of the boards we're using with them, that shouldn't be the problem.

 

[Connoisseur]

hey myocardia. right now it's running at 1.52 according to MBM. I fixed the problem. Turns out a bio upgrade is all I needed. but now I have a couple of other problems..... 1) The CPU won't do anything above 1660mhz (10x166) which is its default frequency. Anything higher and during restart the screen just goes blank while there's power to the system. 2) My cpu temp is pretty damn high. Even at 1660mhz it's showing idle temps at 49C. This is with an ALX-800 and a not so low noise fan. WTF?? My xp 1600+ (arioa) only showed LOAD temps of like 47C when it was overclocked to 1.7ghz? what gives? I'm pretty sure I installed the heatsink properly. I also used the same arctic silver 2 I used for the previous cpu. Man I bought this processor so I can hight 2.4ghz and still have a cool system. Please help.

 

[Shimmishim]

i'd recommend a new board.

you could also trying doing the L12 mod to your chip.

it defaults your chip to 166 mhz fsb rather than 133 mhz fsb

 

[Connoisseur]

Personally i'd prefer not to replace the board. It's an nForce 2 ultra and it's supposed to be able to go >200mhz fsb. Right now my XP-M is running at 1.67ghz (normal speed). And it's running hot too. Right now my case is completely open air (errr except no case fans yet) . It should be nice and cool with my new HS . I'm gonna try to improve cooling and maybe up Vcore. I think it's at 1.5 right now. Maybe 1.65 will help me. I dunno what's going on. Ihaven't heard of anyone complaining of M7NCD Pro's NOT being able to hit 200mhz.

 

[Avalon]

Ihaven't heard of anyone complaining of M7NCD Pro's NOT being able to hit 200mhz.

I haven't heard of anyone using that board for the mobiles. Maybe it's just incompatible for some reason or another.

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

try running 190,i had a similar issue with a crummy Asus motherboard i had to RMA. it refused to hit 200, best i could do was 195.

 

[o1die]

Your cpu probably has only a 256 meg cache, not 512 like the bartons. They don't overclock as well. Your motherboard may not go higher without a voltage increase. If your board doesn't have voltage adjustments for the cpu, I would change boards. Check newegg's refurbished section, and download the manual of the board you're interested in to check the bios for settings before you buy.

 

[Connoisseur]

my cpu is a mobile 35w barton (AQYHA stepping) so I know for a fact it has 512k cache. It should run pretty cool at default setting but right now the damn thing is running at 50c. GRRRR.... and yeah my mobo does have cpu voltage adjustment

 

[jswjimmy]

is the hsf on good, i would check that.

 

[ectx]

I bought the same chip and received it yesterday. I'll pop it in my system today and let you know what I get. (I also bought a 2600+ xp-m from a member at AT and I received it on the same day - I chose to test the 2600+ first since I had to give the seller a heatware eval asap).

Did you see this thread (mattresstester) - his chip seems to run well

 

[Connoisseur]

::sigh:: i'm gonna take the hs off and put it on and see what happens. I'm pretty sure it's on right tho. Once the cpu temp goes up my case temp goes up right along with it. Could it be that i have no case fans even tho the case is open? My room temp generally goes between 70-80F depending on if i have the a/c on. But the case reads like 50c when the cpu gets going. that and the hd's are really hot. gotta wait for those stupid panaflos to show up

 

[Connoisseur]

Hey fixed the problem. Somehow my heatsink was only contacting half of the core surface. Not at all sure how that happened but I remounted and now i'm running cool at 2.4ghz 45C idle and 52C load. Not bad at all.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Hey fixed the problem. Somehow my heatsink was only contacting half of the core surface. Not at all sure how that happened but I remounted and now i'm running cool at 2.4ghz 45C idle and 52C load. Not bad at all.

Be happy you didn't perminantly damage it

 

[Connoisseur]

Heh I am. I was amazed the core didn't crack. I wasn't afraid of thermal damage. They really should make these things IDIOT proof. It'd help me out a lot.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Heh I am. I was amazed the core didn't crack. I wasn't afraid of thermal damage. They really should make these things IDIOT proof. It'd help me out a lot.

Did you see what you did wrong? Probably put the heatsink on backwards.

 

[Connoisseur]

No I put the heatsink on the right way and I made sure the pads that the heatsink were resting on (4 pads were provided w/ the heatsink because it didn't rest on the processor pads) weren't touching the CPU pads. The only possible explanation I can think of is that since this uses the clip retention mechanism, there's a bit of slide to the heatsink. I may have accidentally moved it in such a way that part of the heatsink was resting on the raised plastic portion of the CPU holder. Still... really weird.