Help setting up hard dirves

rb56

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I have a WD 80GB SE (which the OS is on) and a Segate 80GB SATA (which I encode to) drive in my system. I would like to pick up another drive to put together a raid setup. The question is which drive do I buy? I work with video (not professionally) and want the system to be as quick as possible at this task.

When making the switch I can move the OS to the Segate if need be, I guess I'm wondering what would be the best place for the raid the OS disk(s) or the files disk(s).

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Dunno which Seagate do you have but I would most likely do the WD's in RAID unless you have built in SATA RAID on an Intel MoBo and it's a Seagate 7200.7. RAID benefits more from the OS and File accessing then from storage
 

Jeff7181

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I'd go for the WD without question. Seagates are slower and only belong in near silent computers IMHO.
 

rb56

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Thanks for the replies.
I do have SATA Raid on my MB (Asus P4C800 E). I thought the sata drives (I have the Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive, Model ST380013AS) were just as quick as the WD? My system is very quiet and I would like to keep it that way as much as possible.:)

I guess what your saying is that it would be better to have the raid on the OS right?
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I'd go for the WD without question. Seagates are slower and only belong in near silent computers IMHO.

i disagree. the speed differences will never be noticed in real world usage. also i think their quality is better than any other companies.
 

rb56

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I'd go for the WD without question. Seagates are slower and only belong in near silent computers IMHO.

i disagree. the speed differences will never be noticed in real world usage. also i think their quality is better than any other companies.

Nick, are you saying that Seagate's or WD's quality is better? I have and still have several of each and like both. My thought is that I would like to go SATA raid simply because I am trying to move away from the IDE HDs in this system. (I can use it in my Epox/Barton system) I'd pick up a third SATA to replace it down the line.

thanks,
rb56
 

StraightPipe

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promise says that it's best if you put the OS on a non RAID drive, and jsut keep your page file on RAID.


I would think the 2 WD's would be better. the only problem is that you already have the OS on the WD, so you'll wanna either move the OS to your seagate, or just do a fresh install. then RAID0 the WD's, use them for high speed encoding and storage.

my 2 80's fly. running a 7200 8m drive solo, video would sometimes be choppy or get out of sync, but since i moved to RAID, I dont have any problems.
 

StraightPipe

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that might work, but i wouldnt reccomend it since you would be using mixed drives (mixed interfaces too) I'm not sure if that woud even work, but you likely wouldnt get exceptional performance.

on top of that partitions are particularly bad on RAID, since the PC sees the partitions a logical drives, it wiill try to write to both simutaneuosly, possibly causing problems, and definately killing performance. RAID is complicated enough (for your CPU to handle), so if you keep it simple than your system will benifeit the most.
 

rb56

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Originally posted by: StraightPipe
promise says that it's best if you put the OS on a non RAID drive, and jsut keep your page file on RAID.


I would think the 2 WD's would be better. the only problem is that you already have the OS on the WD, so you'll wanna either move the OS to your seagate, or just do a fresh install. then RAID0 the WD's, use them for high speed encoding and storage.

my 2 80's fly. running a 7200 8m drive solo, video would sometimes be choppy or get out of sync, but since i moved to RAID, I dont have any problems.

Hmmm, good information. I would like to go with SATA drives on this system though. I guess I will have to decide which I like better, the Seagate or the WD and go with that for the raid setup. Switching the OS is not a problem as I have it ghosted. Just a matter of poping in the disk.

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poppyq

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I say get another Seagate SATA and use RAID 0 with the other as the non-OS drive (the video editing drive). Use the WD for the OS
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: rb56
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I'd go for the WD without question. Seagates are slower and only belong in near silent computers IMHO.

i disagree. the speed differences will never be noticed in real world usage. also i think their quality is better than any other companies.

Nick, are you saying that Seagate's or WD's quality is better? I have and still have several of each and like both. My thought is that I would like to go SATA raid simply because I am trying to move away from the IDE HDs in this system. (I can use it in my Epox/Barton system) I'd pick up a third SATA to replace it down the line.

thanks,
rb56

both companies are great IMO. if i had to pick one, i would go with seagate.
 

rb56

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Thanks for the replies, I think I'll order another seagate and raid them for the non-OS drive. If they ever come out with the 36GB Raptor I'll pick one up for the OS.

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StraightPipe

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uhh, theres a 36 and a 72GB raptor out...

they actually made 2 generations of the 36GB ver.

the 2nd gen has fluid bearings and has reportedly eliminated the "whine problem"
(I dont know personally, since i cant afford these monsters, nor do i know anybody who actually needs one)
 

rb56

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Originally posted by: StraightPipe
uhh, theres a 36 and a 72GB raptor out...

they actually made 2 generations of the 36GB ver.

the 2nd gen has fluid bearings and has reportedly eliminated the "whine problem"
(I dont know personally, since i cant afford these monsters, nor do i know anybody who actually needs one)

Your right, what I should have said is I'll wait for the second generation 36GB Raptors. It's my understanding that they are still shipping first generation 36GB drives. At this point I don't think I want to put out $250+ for the 72GB drive.:Q

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ZL1

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use the raid for the video
raid is good especially when it comes to large files



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