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ibex333

ibex333

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I just bought a new D-Link DI-604 so that my father could use his laptop in his room.
I installed the router exactly the way it was written in the manual, and at 1st everything worked perfectly, but then i noticed a few issues.
Firstly, i cannot connect to internet in a traditional way anymore. Before i had a shortcut on my desktop from a new connection that i created in control panel for my ISP. I would casually type in my user name and pass, and VOILA! - I'm connected.
Now whenever I turn on my Pc I'm already connected! What's even more strange is that when I open network connections, it says that NONE ARE OPEN, and I am NOT connected!!
But the fact is I am, and I browse the net flawlessly. I dont like what happened and I'd like to get to the bottom of this.

OK. Now my 2nd issue. Every time my father turns off his PC, something clearly happens, since every time he turns it on to surf the web, he cant connect to the internet! It seems to be dead. However when I unplug the ethernet cable and plug it back in, unplug the modem and router, then plug them back in, my dad's internet suddenly works perfectly again. The next time he turns on his PC however, same thing happens again.

My computer is the primary one on the network, and his is secondary.
I'd like to point out that there cant be nothing wrong with PC's in our household. They are both relatively recent PC's. 2 years old max. No viruses or trojans. Scanned 100 times.
Besides. Untill I got a router I had no trouble connecting to the net with either one.
 
Your Network Router configuration might be partially incorrect. It seems that you are unaware of the way the Router authenticate and keep the connection alive regardless of your computers.

From your description I assume that you have DSL, read this first make sure that your are configured correctly and it probably would solve the other problem as well.

Link to: DSL PPPOE and Cable/DSL Routers.

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Can you give a bit more information? What kind of internet connection do you have? DSL? cable? do you use PPPoE or some other protocol?

Anyway, the reason the shortcut on your desktop doesn't work is because your router is now connecting to the internet for you (assuming the modem is plugged into the router rather than a PC) and will then route to the clients. You must have an IP address on the local network to browse the web, so you _do_ have an active connection on your machine, but i'm not sure why it's not showing in 'network connections'. What happens when you open it? there are no icons? and what do you mean your computer is 'primary'?
 
Ok.. I have DSL, and my protocol is PPPoE. (At least it has been before I installed the router)
The modem is plugged into the router.
By saying that my computer is primary, I mean that my computer's ethernet cable is plugged into the "1" port, and my dad's is plugged in "2" port. (there's 4 ports)
When I open "network connections", I see that the icon for my "Verizon" connection that I always used is stated as "disconnected". I am connected however since I'm sucessfully writing and sending this reply to you now.
There are off course no other connections under Broadband in network connections.


PS: Wait a sec... I just noticed that under "LAN or High Speed Internet", there is a so called "Local Area Connection 2" which is stated as "enabled". When I double click it, it says that I'm connected at 100Mbps... I guess that's the one I'm looking for. I wish I could go back to the way I always used to connect instead of this.
What's strange is that under LAN or High Speed Internet there is 2 more connections.
1394 Connection and 1394 Connection 2 when I double click em, both are stated as connected at 400Mbps... I have no idea what are those.
 
the 1394 connections are your firewire ports. they have bearing on your internet connection

I am not sure why you would want to go back to the old way, It sounds like several more steps to get online. the way you have it now, you need only open your browser.
is there some advantage that you are missing?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but every time I log of the net then log on again, my IP changes. When I'm constantly online my IP remains the same always.
Now, if a hacker latched on to me, he can do anyhting he wants to me evry day. If I constantly change my IP it makes life this much harder 4 him. At leat that's what I heared.
 
if someone is targeting you personally, then yes, it would make it harder
the reality is, a hacker just scans ip addresses constantly, and chances are, unless you go for weeks at a time without going online, then you might be getting the same IP anyway
I think the router using NAT is a better defense against hackers than changing your IP anyway
 
If someone has chosen to target you, changing your IP will not help in the slightest. The attacker will know perfectly well you are on a dynamic range, and it will be trivial to have your machine contact one of his static IP boxes and inform it of the new address every time you go online.

You will be much better off with the NAT system in the router than without it. You can even install 3rd party firmwares on many consumer routers which will allow you to setup a real IPtables firewall.
 
what about my father's problem that I explained above? u think it's just a matter of incorrect settings? I did everything explained in the DSL guide except setting my browser to LAN.
Dont know how to do that. (I have Firefox)
And the way I understood it, I should keep my constant internet connection the way iy is and NOT revert to the old way I used to connect. Am I correct?
 
Dunno what's wrong with your dad's PC, but this is what it _should_ look like - network card plugged into router, network drivers installed on PC, one 'local area connection' in 'network connections' which is set to 'recieve an IP address automatically' and 'recieve a DNS server automatically' under properties on 'internet protocol (TCP/IP)'. That's it, nothing else required.

And yes, you should not (in fact cannot without removing the router) revert to the way you used to connect.
 
Allright that's all I needed to know. By the way, my dad's PC works perfectly now. No more problems. Turns out the problem was with the browser settings. 🙂
Thank you for helping me and pointing me into right direction.
 
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