Help please installing SATA drive on K8V SE

[rsd]

Ok in Windows setup, I selected the Via Raid Controller (Win XP) option and still says that Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer


All signs seem to point to the HD (or something on the MB perhaps). I guess I'll know in a few days when my replacement drive gets here. Thanks for all the help though chesscat.

 

[chesscat]

So you put those folders on a floppy-per my post?.

When you pressed 'S' at the prompt, you're saying the option to install a SCSI device didn't show up?

The option to choose controler is not right. YOu need to tell it that you are installling mass storage device and that the drivers are on the floppy etc.

 

[Quasmo]

Hey I have this board and I have 4 SATA drives installed. here is what you need to do. First if it is plugged into the VIA controller, you need to go into your bios, enable the via controller and make sure it is not set as a raid controller but the other (I believe it says IDE) 2nd what you need to do is when you first start up it says to hit the TAB key to setup the VIA raid. You have to setup an array for the drive before the controller can see it. Once you have the array is setup then you should be able to install the VIA drivers durring the windows install.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: Quasmo
Hey I have this board and I have 4 SATA drives installed. here is what you need to do. First if it is plugged into the VIA controller, you need to go into your bios, enable the via controller and make sure it is not set as a raid controller but the other (I believe it says IDE) 2nd what you need to do is when you first start up it says to hit the TAB key to setup the VIA raid. You have to setup an array for the drive before the controller can see it. Once you have the array is setup then you should be able to install the VIA drivers durring the windows install.

Hm this might be promising. Where exactly do I set this in the bios? I already have "OnBoard Promise Controller" set to Disabled. But where is the via controller? Only other thing similar I see is OnChip Sata BOOTROM (already enabled). Thanks for the help.

 

[rsd]

Hmm I see the option to enable the Promise controller and set it to the Onboard IDE. I am going to try that now.

 

[DyslexicHobo]

I had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM with my SATA drive on my Asus A8V deluxe. The way I did it was I my other new 40 gig drive, installed windows onto that, and partitioned the SATA drive (it detected it in windows, even though it didn't when I was trying to install windows on it). I rebooted and bam, I had a new ready-to-go hard drive.

 

[rsd]

Hmm still a no go with using the Promise controller/drivers. Could it be an incompatability with the Maxtor drive itself? I guess I can pick up small SATA drive, but I'd prefer if I didn't have to.

 

[Viper96720]

The promise and via controller are seperate controllers. Your using the via so disable the promise and enable onchip sata bootrom. Make sure your plugging the drive into the via sata and not the promise one. Since your using the via drivers. Plug the drive into SATA 1 or 2.
next to the floppy connector and via controller chip.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: Viper96720
The promise and via controller are seperate controllers. Your using the via so disable the promise and enable onchip sata bootrom. Make sure your plugging the drive into the via sata and not the promise one. Since your using the via drivers. Plug the drive into SATA 1 or 2.
next to the floppy connector and via controller chip.

Yes, I did that originally. I connected it to the SATA 1, disabled the Promise controller etc. I will try SATA 2 I guess.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: rsd

Originally posted by: Viper96720
The promise and via controller are seperate controllers. Your using the via so disable the promise and enable onchip sata bootrom. Make sure your plugging the drive into the via sata and not the promise one. Since your using the via drivers. Plug the drive into SATA 1 or 2.
next to the floppy connector and via controller chip.

Yes, I did that originally. I connected it to the SATA 1, disabled the Promise controller etc. I will try SATA 2 I guess.

Still no dice.

I plugged it into SATA 2.

Enabled in Bios the OnChip Sata Bootrom

Disabled Promise Controller

When it boots up, I hit tab to go into the SATA Utility, but did nothing because shows that no drive was found and I couldn't do anything.

When Windows set up begins, I hit F6, eventually select something like Via Sata Raid controller (WinXP), goes through some motions and eventually says Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer.

Talk about an exercise in frustration. I hope now that it is simply the HD that is defective.

 

[rsd]

Bump..anyone else have any other suggestions/thoughts?

It seems unlikely, but possible, that this HD is DOA...annoying as heck too. Thanks to all though who have posted advice.

 

[chesscat]

Originally posted by: rsd
Bump..anyone else have any other suggestions/thoughts?

It seems unlikely, but possible, that this HD is DOA...annoying as heck too. Thanks to all though who have posted advice.

Not to beat a dead horse, but are you sure you put the right drivers on the floppy? You mentioned earlier about installing a controller but I said that it should have asked for mass storage device (click S) and then it shows list of items from floppy and one is a scsi device (the right choice)

I don't want to be a pest about this but did you follow my suggestion of going to the via link I provided earlier and put the folders on the floppy (2 folder + oem txt file?)

I just have the impression that you are not installing the right thing when using the F6 option. YOu should have option of installing mass storage device, ie, a scsi device.

-Chesscat

 

[rsd]

Well I realized I was clicking the wrong thing I THINK..instead of RAID controller this time I selected the Via Host ATA controller, however still does not find any hard disk it says.

Chesscat, I tried both the drivers from the Asus website and the ones you linked.

From some searching around, it seems that there might be some issues with Maxtor SATA drives and some SATA controllers it seems like.

 

[chesscat]

Originally posted by: rsd
Well I realized I was clicking the wrong thing I THINK..instead of RAID controller this time I selected the Via Host ATA controller, however still does not find any hard disk it says.

Chesscat, I tried both the drivers from the Asus website and the ones you linked.

From some searching around, it seems that there might be some issues with Maxtor SATA drives and some SATA controllers it seems like.

Ok, but was there ever an option to install a mass storage device when using drivers off floppy when using f6 option?

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: chesscat

Originally posted by: rsd
Well I realized I was clicking the wrong thing I THINK..instead of RAID controller this time I selected the Via Host ATA controller, however still does not find any hard disk it says.

Chesscat, I tried both the drivers from the Asus website and the ones you linked.

From some searching around, it seems that there might be some issues with Maxtor SATA drives and some SATA controllers it seems like.

Ok, but was there ever an option to install a mass storage device when using drivers off floppy when using f6 option?

No just SATA RAID controller and Via ATA/ATAPI Host Controller for various windows

 

[chesscat]

Originally posted by: rsd

Originally posted by: chesscat

Originally posted by: rsd
Well I realized I was clicking the wrong thing I THINK..instead of RAID controller this time I selected the Via Host ATA controller, however still does not find any hard disk it says.

Chesscat, I tried both the drivers from the Asus website and the ones you linked.

From some searching around, it seems that there might be some issues with Maxtor SATA drives and some SATA controllers it seems like.

Ok, but was there ever an option to install a mass storage device when using drivers off floppy when using f6 option?

No just SATA RAID controller and Via ATA/ATAPI Host Controller for various windows

Ok, I don't think you are using the right drivers. When you press 'S' during XP install and put in floppy it should come with list that contains a SCSI device. I don't know what else to say at this point. I guess only you know if you put the right drivers on the floppy. I'm just going by my own experience. I don't think the HD is bad.

Also, if possible you should try to update the BIOS. THough I don't know if you can do that without having XP installed first.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: chesscat

Originally posted by: rsd

Originally posted by: chesscat

Originally posted by: rsd
Well I realized I was clicking the wrong thing I THINK..instead of RAID controller this time I selected the Via Host ATA controller, however still does not find any hard disk it says.

Chesscat, I tried both the drivers from the Asus website and the ones you linked.

From some searching around, it seems that there might be some issues with Maxtor SATA drives and some SATA controllers it seems like.

Ok, but was there ever an option to install a mass storage device when using drivers off floppy when using f6 option?

No just SATA RAID controller and Via ATA/ATAPI Host Controller for various windows

Ok, I don't think you are using the right drivers. When you press 'S' during XP install and put in floppy it should come with list that contains a SCSI device. I don't know what else to say at this point. I guess only you know if you put the right drivers on the floppy. I'm just going by my own experience. I don't think the HD is bad.

Yeah I have a nagging feeling that something isn't write.

I have tried with the drivers you linked to, also on this
page:

378ata_100104528.zip

and

VIARAID220d.zip


There is also 378raid_100137.zip but that looks like that is the RAID driver

 

[chesscat]

And you put the oem..txt file with the PIDE and SATA folders? Another option is to update your bios if possible.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: chesscat
And you put the oem..txt file with the PIDE and SATA folders? Another option is to update your bios if possible.

I used the makedisk utilities from the downloads.

I did update the bios to the latest (1004)


Thanks for all the suggestions chesscat...

Out of curiosity, has anyone gotten the K8V SE deluxe working with the 250gb Maxtor SATA drive?

 

[chesscat]

Ok this is my last post on this issue. I don't think you followed a previous posting I made to the letter:

Download that zip file (6 megs, hope you have broadband _. then open the driverdisk folder and put SATA AND PIDE folders AND txtsetup.oem on a floppy.

The worst that will happen is that it won't work.

The link I provided says that the 6420 is covered by the drivers in that ***310E.zip file.

Do not use the makedisk option.

If you did this already, I apologize for pestering and will make this the LAST post.

 

[chesscat]

Ok, one last gasp. google this VIA8237SATARAID.zip . It's a small file. put on all files on floppy (boot with xp, f6, etc. click 'S' insert floppy yada yada yada). If this doesnt' work I'll stop pestering you.

 

[mechBgon]

Guys, I think what rsd is saying isn't quite getting through. He says that the controllers cannot detect a hard drive attached to them when they initialize. If the controller cannot see the hard drive, period, then it isn't going to matter which controller, what mode it's in, or what drivers he's using.

It's like if I fired up my SCSI rig and the SCSI card did not detect a SCSI drive (disconnected cable or faulty cable or dead drive or whatever). I can press F6, use the right drivers, etc, but if the drive wasn't detected by the card, it's not going to help.

rsd, if the Promise is in IDE mode then no question about it, you should see the drive listed by the controller. And if the drive is showing up, then the Promise in IDE mode is your simplest route, from what I've seen of people battling to make an SATA drive the boot drive on this family of boards. My editorial comment would be "why bother with SATA in the first place," but it's too late now I guess.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: chesscat
Ok this is my last post on this issue. I don't think you followed a previous posting I made to the letter:

Download that zip file (6 megs, hope you have broadband _. then open the driverdisk folder and put SATA AND PIDE folders AND txtsetup.oem on a floppy.

The worst that will happen is that it won't work.

The link I provided says that the 6420 is covered by the drivers in that ***310E.zip file.

Do not use the makedisk option.

If you did this already, I apologize for pestering and will make this the LAST post.

Ok, Copied the PIDE and RAID folders and TXTSETUP.OEM onto a floppy.

Plugged cable into SATA1

Made sure 4-pin molex connected to HD

Enabled in Bios the OnChip Sata Bootrom

Disabled Onboard Proimse Controller

Went into windows setup, it let me select Via SATA RAID Controller and Via ATA/ATAPI Controller (I tried both options..each one separately then both during the same install)

Still can't detect hard disk

Sorry for all the frustration...I'm equally frustrated and I don't see what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks for your help though chesscat, and if anyone has had success with this MB and the 250gb Maxtor SATA drive, I'd love to hear about it. Thanks again.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Guys, I think what rsd is saying isn't quite getting through. He says that the controllers cannot detect a hard drive attached to them when they initialize. If the controller cannot see the hard drive, period, then it isn't going to matter which controller, what mode it's in, or what drivers he's using.

It's like if I fired up my SCSI rig and the SCSI card did not detect a SCSI drive (disconnected cable or faulty cable or dead drive or whatever). I can press F6, use the right drivers, etc, but if the drive wasn't detected by the card, it's not going to help.

rsd, if the Promise is in IDE mode then no question about it, you should see the drive listed by the controller. And if the drive is showing up, then the Promise in IDE mode is your simplest route, from what I've seen of people battling to make an SATA drive the boot drive on this family of boards. My editorial comment would be "why bother with SATA in the first place," but it's too late now I guess.

Thanks mechBgon, I think you summed up the situation exactly. The controllers are not detecting the HD at all prior to setting up windows.

Unfortunately I had already bought this HD a couple months ago in anticipation of this system. I guess if I still don't have success with the replacement from RMA, I can sell it and get another.

I just have a creeping feeling it is an issue between Maxtor and the Via/Promise controllers.

 

[chesscat]

Maybe I'm spending too much time in the various forums but it seems that the whole SATA issue is sucking up MAJOR bandwidth and is a GIANT sinkhole for time. I can't tell you how many postings I've seen about this at PCmech as well. I guess I just got lucky with my asus a8v mobo and WD sata drive.

cheers,

chesscat