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YetioDoom

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There is only one reason, and if you can't figure it out, you are a stupidhead.
 

rsd

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I'm curious, where is your data that says there is a lack of intellectuals? Don't you have to have proof before you can provide reasoning as to why?
 

mundane

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Or maybe we just don't acknowledge the great ones of our time, instead waiting decades until we look back and reminisce about the good ol' days when the brilliant field pioneers supplied us with technological, medicinal, and scientific innovations.
 

spidey07

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Having to speak with more and more stupid people. It just sucks the IQ right out of them.
 
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Originally posted by: rsd
I'm curious, where is your data that says there is a lack of intellectuals? Don't you have to have proof before you can provide reasoning as to why?

Where are the Great minds, the ones that single-handedly changed the world? Now there are a bunch of mediocre scientist that can?t even cure some 100 year old decease
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Coro Dominicano
Originally posted by: rsd
I'm curious, where is your data that says there is a lack of intellectuals? Don't you have to have proof before you can provide reasoning as to why?

Where are the Great minds, the ones that single-handedly changed the world? Now there are a bunch of mediocre scientist that can?t even cure some 100 year old decease

Sounds like you need to study more.

Seriously.
 

venk

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Originally posted by: Coro Dominicano
Originally posted by: rsd
I'm curious, where is your data that says there is a lack of intellectuals? Don't you have to have proof before you can provide reasoning as to why?

Where are the Great minds, the ones that single-handedly changed the world? Now there are a bunch of mediocre scientist that can?t even cure some 100 year old decease


Working on developing fast proccesors for Intel or better potato chip maunfacturing processes for Lays.
 

JDMnAR1

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Originally posted by: Coro Dominicano
The absence of great intellectuals, in our times, can be attributed to what?

Google - why learn it if you can google it? ;)

 
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Originally posted by: ducci
There is no absense of great intellectuals, they are simply not held in such high regard anymore, nor is their work publicized by any popular media.

true
 
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Originally posted by: Coro Dominicano
Originally posted by: rsd
I'm curious, where is your data that says there is a lack of intellectuals? Don't you have to have proof before you can provide reasoning as to why?

Where are the Great minds, the ones that single-handedly changed the world? Now there are a bunch of mediocre scientist that can?t even cure some 100 year old decease
decease != disease, which is the first thing that makes me realize you are talking out your ass

secondly, it takes years, sometimes generations to realize greatness. some of the best discoveries are pushed aside because they are too advanced, and their value only comes to light much later. you will see there are brilliant minds of our time, just not for a while.

oh, and it also takes time for people to appreciate things

 

PingSpike

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I think as the general level of education rises, each individual becomes less signifigant. I mean, not all the great minds were that great. Have you ever read "Allegory of the Cave" by Plato? What a piece of trash that is. But we eat it up...why? Because everyone else back then was either swinging a sword or digging a ditch or something...and they couldn't even fvcking read. We have a lot more people reaching more of their potential now, so any single individual isn't as impressive. Not everyone could afford to sit around all day in a toga, eating grapes and eloquently blabbing about things. Most people were still concerned with getting some food or developing a useful skill. Think of how many leonardo da vinci's got their hands cut off for stealing bread or died of a spranged ankle or something. There wasn't time, or emphasis on people developing these intellectual abilities because they weren't always immediately useful...so the few that did were unique and exciting. This isn't the case anymore. Intellectuals are there, they just aren't respected.

I don't think there's a lack of intellectuals, I think there's an overabundance. And no one cares about that which is common.
 
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Originally posted by: PingSpike
I think as the general level of education rises, each individual becomes less signifigant. I mean, not all the great minds were that great. Have you ever read "Allegory of the Cave" by Plato? What a piece of trash that is. But we eat it up...why? Because everyone else back then was either swinging a sword or digging a ditch or something...and they couldn't even fvcking read. We have a lot more people reaching more of their potential now, so any single individual isn't as impressive. Not everyone could afford to sit around all day in a toga, eating grapes and eloquently blabbing about things. Most people were still concerned with getting some food or developing a useful skill. Think of how many leonardo da vinci's got their hands cut off for stealing bread or died of a spranged ankle or something. There wasn't time, or emphasis on people developing these intellectual abilities because they weren't always immediately useful...so the few that did were unique and exciting. This isn't the case anymore. Intellectuals are there, they just aren't respected.

I don't think there's a lack of intellectuals, I think there's an overabundance. And no one cares about that which is common.

Thanx

 

DrPizza

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Here is the correct answer:
There are more great intellectuals in our time than ever before.
But, because journalism majors are typically stupid people who understand very little science, they avoid science almost as much as the plague. Actually, more than the plague. Some of them would be the first in line to enter a city of plague victims, in the interest of getting a big story for CNN or FOX or some other media outlet, in an attempt to boost their careers. The journalists would rather spend their time concentrating on stories about how some "famous" baseball player was caught beating his wife or taking drugs. These are easy stories to write. They take a minimum of understanding and there are virtually no mathematics to comprehend (the vast majority of journalists are quite innumerate - the equivalent of illiterate but in mathematics) Thus, 99% of all media reports stories that are incredibly lacking in any depth of intellectual content. Some intellectual will make a giant leap in quantum computing, and the reporter assigned to the story is going to say "quantawhoseajiggawhat?" and turn their attentions to Dwight Gooden's 15th arrest on drug charges. Dwight makes the 1st or 2nd page, and the quantum computing story turns to the blurb, "some scientist made some sort of fast computer made out of stuff smaller than atoms" buried on the 20th page of the paper.

edit: I cannot count the times I've read stories about technical revelations that showed the author of the story was an idiot who couldn't comprehend the information he was given.
 

Savij

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Norman Borlaug
Stephen Hawking
The dudes who came up with the idea of using carbon nanotubes for electronics...
 

ggnl

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Here is the correct answer:
There are more great intellectuals in our time than ever before.
But, because journalism majors are typically stupid people who understand very little science, they avoid science almost as much as the plague. Actually, more than the plague. Some of them would be the first in line to enter a city of plague victims, in the interest of getting a big story for CNN or FOX or some other media outlet, in an attempt to boost their careers. The journalists would rather spend their time concentrating on stories about how some "famous" baseball player was caught beating his wife or taking drugs. These are easy stories to write. They take a minimum of understanding and there are virtually no mathematics to comprehend (the vast majority of journalists are quite innumerate - the equivalent of illiterate but in mathematics) Thus, 99% of all media reports stories that are incredibly lacking in any depth of intellectual content. Some intellectual will make a giant leap in quantum computing, and the reporter assigned to the story is going to say "quantawhoseajiggawhat?" and turn their attentions to Dwight Gooden's 15th arrest on drug charges. Dwight makes the 1st or 2nd page, and the quantum computing story turns to the blurb, "some scientist made some sort of fast computer made out of stuff smaller than atoms" buried on the 20th page of the paper.

edit: I cannot count the times I've read stories about technical revelations that showed the author of the story was an idiot who couldn't comprehend the information he was given.

So it's the media's fault? ;)

To expound on your analysis, I would say that it is not just the media, but the public at large that is disinterested in scientific progress.

You're also ignoring the fact that not all "great minds" are scientists. You will also find philosophers, politicians, writers, and artists among their ranks.