Help On New System (754 vs 939)

[jterrell]

A single 6600GT is nice. No need to go SLI board tho. A plain Nforce 4 will drop your prices quite a bit.
Remain 939 as 754 is dated and 939 overclocks more than enough to make up for any price difference.
Memory doesn't need to be low latency just name brand value ram works quite well.
Use dividers when you OC it.
Drop the sound card as nforce4 sound is plenty unless you already have an audigy 2 or want to go audigy 4.

 

[JuanT]

The difference from dropping from SLI to a non-SLI Motherboard is 40 bucks. The possibilities are worth the extra 40 *IF* they don't take away from anything at all. Other than my pocket, that is.

Thanks Gunnman, SATA it is! Thank god the prices are the same.

 

[Gunnman]

You can just put in one Video Card into the SLI board and one day add another if you see fit. (With the current SLI constraints ofcourse)

Nice plan for the future!

 

[JuanT]

Just how marked are the perfomances of non-Dual Channel RAM and standard SDRAM? I know it seems like I'm skimping....

 

[Gunnman]

Thats ok,

Well dual-channel is much faster of course, but you do what you can. You can see it in load times, mainly (realworld) but you would see a differance in performance overall.

Just leave that upgrade for a later time. That is the beauty of Clones!!

If your buying new get DDR Dual-Channel

 

[JuanT]

Just wondering, what kind of power supply should I use on this system?

There's a nice, reliable Enlight 450W ATX 12V Version 2.0 that's going fairly cheap. Should I go for something with more juice? In case you can't tell, it's for some very repressed and high-end gaming this thing is being built for. I need reliability, stability and affordability more than raw wattage.

The extreme option is a 600W PSU, the Enermax Noisetaker. Assume that along with the upgrade-later approach that I'm not above replacing the PSU later on when I pick up a new CPU and a new vid card. Right now, and for at least 2-3 years, it'd be just a standard 939 system.

 

[JuanT]

Also: What are your top picks for non-SLI boards? I may have to order two systems simultaneously, one SLI one non-SLI (for a relative).

 

[ribbon13]

So you can have 8x SATA HDD Raid-0

Wrong. 2x 4-port controllers. Softraiding across the controllers would be extremely unwise.



Whatever you do, don't cheap out on the power supply for your relative. Cheap power supplies equate to them calling you for tech support because thier computer keeps crashing. i.e. don't go any cheaper than this.

 

[Gunnman]

extremely unwise? Veritas Volume Manager will do it with out an issue. Nothing wrong with software raid.

Did I say it was 1 controller?

Get over yourself punk!

 

[ribbon13]

You've actually run a 8-drive striped set?

 

[Gunnman]

not on that board, but the logic is the same, I have ran Veritas on many various arrays and encapsulated root drives in a 12xRAID-0. And yes it is fast! I have nothing to prove to you!

You can find a eval version of Veritas for Win2000 from kazaa, bit torrent and the like.

I don't mind disagrements but you obviously have an ego issue. "Wrong!" ? "extremly unwise" Screw You Too!! If thats your attitude.

You have this way of talking that is just annoying! You think you are Data from StarTrek or Spock? They are fictional characters dude, get real. You probably talk like them in real life. lol

 

[ribbon13]

You were wrong. Without 3rd party software, you can't run a raid that spans the nVidia and the Silicon Image. Also, as for unwise, suggesting the use of priated software openly in the forums is an extremely stupid idea. And the 'capability' you suggested, running more than 4 drives in a striped set, has extremely limited esoteric uses.

 

[Gunnman]

Dude Shut Up!! What are you a pussy? Unwise! lol Pussy! What is going to happpen am i going to get banned from Anand's forum.. Who cares!

What are you Nick Burns? I hate people like you!

This conversation is boring just like your existance.

As far as what I typed in the thread, it was open to interpratation. I was tired and didnt elaborate. I have the board I know what it can do you asshole.

And by the way speaking of stupid what $500 Monster cable did you buy and take apart? I am not aware of a $500 cable. Oh wait could you be full of crap. I think so!

 

[ribbon13]

Obviously you are of a superior mind than me. I should fall on my knees in awe of such an intelligence as the one you display.

As for the cable, I was indeed wrong about the price.
I guess you're right. I am so full of it. I don't know anything and I'm not helpful to anyone on this forum, and no one values my opinion...

I should go out and kill myself right now!

Good bye cruel world!!!!!

arrghhh!
*dies*

 

[Ike0069]

Damn Ribbon, you were wrong about the price. If you're still alive, go ahead and kill yourself now. LOL
Gunman, you are obviously is in need of some love. :heart:

 

[Ike0069]

Get the DFI non-SLI NF4 board. IMO it's better than the ASUS and should be cheaper. (you can definitely find it cheaper in the US)
With the savings on the MB and no SC, upgrade the monitor. If you search Ebay, you can find some good deals on New monitors. Shipping to Canada might kill you though. :frown:

 

[jterrell]

Originally posted by: JuanT
The difference from dropping from SLI to a non-SLI Motherboard is 40 bucks. The possibilities are worth the extra 40 *IF* they don't take away from anything at all. Other than my pocket, that is.

Thanks Gunnman, SATA it is! Thank god the prices are the same.

The prob I have there is the SLI stuff is 2 x 8x whereas the plain ultras are 16x.

I know right now that bandwidth is meaningless as we dont even seem to hit 4x but in the future it could be more useful to have 16x than a 2nd slot for sli.

I'd buy a base board and get one with a good bios. The DFI is the one I'd purchase today.

 

[JuanT]

Well, I wasn't going cheaper that 45 bucks, it was still a 520 W PSU at around 80 dollars. Not bad, really.

 

[Macro2]

The real deal is the 754. Sure 939 is upgradable but the fact is that most everyone never upgrades their cpu alone.

 

[JuanT]

I am not most everyone... I will just upgrade my CPU simply because I won't have the resources to do much of anything else down the line.

I've been looking hard for a DFI mobo, but I can't find one.

 

[Macro2]

It never really pays to buy cutting edge unless you are a diehard gamer.

OTOH, 939 is just fine.

If you need parallel or serial ports, the DFI has neither. Other than that they are a good choice.

 

[loomis2]

If it makes you feel any better, the a8n-sli can be had now for @$180. I am going to be building about the same system as you any time now, s if you find a decent case let me know. And I am definately going 939 because like someone else said, in a few years you cna get dual core CPU's, or maybe sooner a fx-55 for a decent price.

 

[JuanT]

Originally posted by: jterrell
The prob I have there is the SLI stuff is 2 x 8x whereas the plain ultras are 16x.

I know right now that bandwidth is meaningless as we dont even seem to hit 4x but in the future it could be more useful to have 16x than a 2nd slot for sli.

I'd buy a base board and get one with a good bios. The DFI is the one I'd purchase today.

Hmm, this has got me thinking on my SLI stance... Still, I don't think that there are gonna be many games out there that'll require hardware to go 16x on one card just to be able to play it.

Right now, I have a Matrox Millenium card. If it got me through 4 years of gaming, a Leadtek 6600 GT should be alright.

 

[caz67]

939 SLI all the way..