Help on Dimes

[Silverthorne]

It might help if the Dimes stats were working, they've been down since around 3PM.

 

[Woodie]

Stats are up this AM. The stats seem to stop for a few hours every week...just wait a little, they'll get updated eventually.

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong

Originally posted by: Assimilator1

Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
I just signed up with 1 cruncher and I seem to be in the top 10 daily producers of TA already.....Don't know if that's a good thing or not. 😛

Where do you get 'daily production' stats from?

(Not this post Ray 😉)

here.

Ah yes that site ,thanks 🙂

Anyone seen dringdahl lately?

 

[petrusbroder]

A bump to get this very interesting thread to the first page again!

... BTW I am still crunching DIMES - although my ISP has politely and without any kind of threats or intimidations asked me to limlit myself to one agent.
Not because of bandwidth limitations but because I am very close to a university whose computer-security-people did not enjoy the prospect of having a program trying to map all the 2 900 workstations and comps ... and some of the departments of this university are very, very, very paranoid ... 🙁

 

[schleppy]

Just joined last night, running it on a ancient Pentium200 and it's actually churning stats...... impressive. Doesn't matter what machine your on, it's just your bandwidth.

 

[petrusbroder]

Not even your bandwidth - unless you have a dial-up-connection ... it takes very little unless you run 5 or more agents on the same connection and you have set the time between measurements to like 5 seconds or so. With the defaults the agent does a measurement each 15 seconds... 🙂

 

[bluestrobe]

Wow, all these trash talkers and only two people, TWO people decided to PM on the issue with one being from the RA. Some people get the satisfaction of public slander without anything constructive coming from it, typical child behavior. I stopped DIMES for two reasons, (1) it was crashing the network, and (2) I don't care for the mini-teams. The main motivation was the competition part of the projects between individuals. I tried but never understood the idea of mini-teams and think they kill the drive for some on the individual basis because they did it for me. If there was a contest bet when A cruncher and B cruncher which ran their own fleet of computers and then C mini-team with 50+ computers all under one name blows us by, what?s the fun in that? Some might say it?s a team effort but we all do this for free and need ways to motivate us. If we saw some actual payment for this I wouldn't complain I never asked RA or any other mini-team to leave and this was their choice. I left outright in one day and never been back. They earned my respect by leaving and my mind has changed on them after one of their members made great strides to get me to come back. I never did go back because I was having problems with the client and I was getting calls from my ISP weekly about the security issue they were certain I had. If you continue to have problems with me or my choices, PM me rather than keeping up the schoolyard behavior. Some people who are catered to all of their lives really need to grow up.

Rabidjade

 

[Assimilator1]

Trash talkers? public slander? I guess you must be talking about other threads?😕
Talking of which ,thanks for putting a negative post in here ,much of which is not related to this thread ,(but not all I concede) ,it was trying to rally support for Dimes.🙁

When you stopped Dimes you only mentioned (in the thread I quoted you ,in my PM) that you stopped because of miniteams ,that is childish!.
You now say that you stopped (also) because of network issues from it (did you discover what?) ,that is a perfectly reasonable thing to do & I can understand that.
Even with mini teams it is still perfectly possible to have competition between individuals (as I said in my PM),you only need to look at all the MTR & race stat threads by Ohio Dude for SETI over the years to see my point.Their are races between different individuals & races between different mini teams.

and then C mini-team with 50+ computers all under one name blows us by, what?s the fun in that?

The fun is that there is still a race between 'A' & 'B' to whatever target* you had in mind 🙂 ,its a pitty you didn't see that ,my PM to you may of been a little harsh & I maybe a new member of Dimes but that doesn't mean that I am happy to see you gone, on the contrary.
*Its true that with a mini team about you'll probably never get to the No1 spot ,but so what? yea it'd be nice to be No1 for a bit ,but overall the team is better off with a miniteam in (or other mega crunchers).Afterall ,the point in joining a team is to add to the overall output ,right? (as well as other reasons) ,so the more output that's added to a team the better ,whether its via lots of individual members or a handful of miniteams ,preferabley both 😉.

So your motivation has not been removed at all ,unless you had planned to be 'The No1' guy ? ,in which case you are doomed to fail in any project in any team (unless you assimilate a mass of PCs ,in which case you'd been in the same ground as a miniteam!😛).
I think you have just misunderstood the situation.Inccidently ,if you still disagree then you may want to consider never joining any team ,as they all will have miniteams sooner or latter ,if they haven't already.That wouldn't be much fun would it?

Btw I didn't send this via a PM because you posted here about it

Well I don't expect we'll see you back in Dimes again ,so good luck with whatever project you do next 🙂

schleppy
Welcome to TA Dimes 🙂

 

[RaySun2Be]

Originally posted by: bluestrobe
Wow, all these trash talkers and only two people, TWO people decided to PM on the issue with one being from the RA. Some people get the satisfaction of public slander without anything constructive coming from it, typical child behavior. I stopped DIMES for two reasons, (1) it was crashing the network, and (2) I don't care for the mini-teams. The main motivation was the competition part of the projects between individuals. I tried but never understood the idea of mini-teams and think they kill the drive for some on the individual basis because they did it for me. If there was a contest bet when A cruncher and B cruncher which ran their own fleet of computers and then C mini-team with 50+ computers all under one name blows us by, what?s the fun in that? Some might say it?s a team effort but we all do this for free and need ways to motivate us. If we saw some actual payment for this I wouldn't complain I never asked RA or any other mini-team to leave and this was their choice. I left outright in one day and never been back. They earned my respect by leaving and my mind has changed on them after one of their members made great strides to get me to come back. I never did go back because I was having problems with the client and I was getting calls from my ISP weekly about the security issue they were certain I had. If you continue to have problems with me or my choices, PM me rather than keeping up the schoolyard behavior. Some people who are catered to all of their lives really need to grow up.

Rabidjade

As far as the trash talking, slander, I have no idea what you are talking about, and haven't seen anything of the sort around here, nor would it be tolerated.

I think this post would have been more appropriate in the 'mini-teams' discussion thread, where we were hoping to discuss this in an open, respectful manner. And even asked for different opinions on the subject.

I ask you:
1. What's the difference between a mini-team and a person who has access to a work fleet?
2. Both are going to blow by a person who has no work access, and only has 1 or 2 crunchers available to crunch?

And isn't a person with a fleet of work computers technically a mini-team? Each PC in the work fleet is "owned" or used by a different person, all crunching under 1 person's name. The only exception to this is if the owner of the company was the person running the DC project, as they are all owned by him/her.

On any DC project out there, you are going to get passed by, unless you are one of the lucky ones that have a HUGE work fleet available to them, or lots and lots of $$ to throw at the project. if I've only got 2 PCs, and you have 4 PCs of the same type, I'm going to get passed by. If I have only got 2 PCs, and 4 people have 1 PC all crunching under the same name, I am still going to get passed by. Fact of life.

That's why we do MTR races in SETI. We group people into "mini-teams" balanced by WU output of the team total. Everyone still crunches under their own name, and the mini-teams go head to head.

Also, take a look at OhioDudes Seti Races and Milestones. We've setup different races based on people with similar outputs, or who will finish a set of WUs about the same time.

Those are about the only fair ways to have a race contest within any DC project that I can think of.

And beside,s for most DC projects, the more PCs working on the project the better FOR the project, whether that be mini-teams, all individuals, and/or work fleets. And THAT's what it's all about, right? Helping the project achieve their goals quickly? 🙂

Oh, and having fun! 🙂

 

[RaySun2Be]

Almost forgot to mention, I'm back on Dimes!

I added another stick of 256M RAM, cleaned out the PC, put new thermal paste on the HS/Fan, and this PC is running a LOT better. I just tested remote access with Dimes and SETI running, and it works fine now, no lockups. 🙂

So Assim, I'm back in business and gunning for ya! 😛

😀

 

[petrusbroder]

Welcome back RaySun2Be.
😀

 

[Assimilator1]

Come get me Ray 😀

You got a 24k gap point to close!