Help Networking Home

[BeeBoop]

Just bought a new home and we are closing in about 3 weeks. The home was built in 2011. My cable provider said that it would be an extra 10 dollars a month per room if i want to hard wire internet in another room. Is there a way to network the two computers without having to drill holes in the wall or using wireless? I am trying to figure a way to connect a line to two computers in separate rooms, eventually it'll be 3 computers in 3 separate rooms so the price per month just keeps going up.

I've read something about HPNA 3.0 and was wondering if that's a solution? Is it easy to setup or is there a different route I can take?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Well, if you don't want wireless, and you don't want to run ethernet cable....you can try looking up powerline adapters. you plug them into wall sockets and the electrical cables become your ethernet runs.

Speeds and latencies are always "your mileage may vary" when using this type of solution.

You're cable provider is who? That's nonsense they're telling you.

 

[QuietDad]

It's not nonsense. I used to install for Cablevision and Comcast. At the time, Cablevision didn't supply ANY routers and if you want two PC's, it was two modems at $49.99 a month EACH. And with Comcast, a ethernet run that I did was treated just like an additional TV line at $9.99 a month.

 

[BeeBoop]

Thanks for the suggestion guys.

 

[ch33zw1z]

It's not nonsense. I used to install for Cablevision and Comcast. At the time, Cablevision didn't supply ANY routers and if you want two PC's, it was two modems at $49.99 a month EACH. And with Comcast, a ethernet run that I did was treated just like an additional TV line at $9.99 a month.

Cablevision, get router..clone MAC of PC. problem solved.

In my area, Comcast originally would associate with the MAC of the PC you installed Comcast modem with. The PC which ran their self-install software, etc... Cloning the MAC of the PC onto the router worked just fine. This was 10 years ago, Comcast no longer does this in my area.

Comcast, you installed the ethernet cable as a tech. The OP will be doing this himself. Cable provider will be none-the-wiser.

 

[QuietDad]

Both companies didn't care or charge what you did yourself. You actually own the lines after the ground block outside. TV lines had the first 40 channels analog so if you split the lines and ran them yourself, you didn't even need a cablebox. Can't tell you how many calls got canceled educating the homeowner about routers. Sad part was a modem install was good money and you hated losing it, but there is this thing called a conscience that the sales people working on straight commissions didn't have.

 

[ch33zw1z]

They cared enough to make it difficult in the beginning. Imagine the undertaking to enforce what you're talking about to all the residential installs currently in operation. lol, mind boggling.

 

[BeeBoop]

Clowning the MAC address of the PC into the router? Is that possible for me? That sound's interesting. My provider is suddenlink if anyone is wondering. They are similar to Comcast from what I understand.

 

[QuietDad]

In the last year, Both Cablevision and Comcast and now FIOS, the new kid on the block, are all digital. Need a box for every TV. With the addition of VOIP, wiring becomes even more annoying, especially in multiple level houses where the homeowner wants the modem in the second story bedroom and the ADT alarm box is in the basement (Alarm systems have to be the first connect of the phone system from the street) and the phones are now fed from the modem. It's a racket and it is what it is. Basic differences here is that Cablevision DOES NOT do any inside wiring. Runs to every room have to wrap the house and Comcast will even wall fish at $150 per line per wall installation charge. There are 3 worlds in a call, what the customer thought he ordered, what the salesmen thought he could get away with in placing the order, and what the antique scheduling system actually got on the paper.

 

[BeeBoop]

I think i'm just going to end up paying the extra 10 bucks a room. Sounds like so much trouble and I'm not a great handyman. Thanks for all the info though!

 

[nsafreak]

For $10 a month extra they had better be doing a wall fish with a keystone CAT5e network jack into that room. In all honesty running network cable isn't that hard, if need be you could just simply run it along the baseboards and conceal it using one of many methods (running it under the carpet, or using duct covers).

 

[QuietDad]

There should be NO issue of using a router and wiring it yourself. Installed this stuff for 8 years and never had to clone MAC address or anything. There are 3 basic choices to get the 2nd computer hooked up to one modem. You need a router. You can get a Modem from Suddenlink and buy your own Router or get a modem/router from Suddenlink. They have WIFI routers too. You then need to connect the PCS to the router. This can be done wireless, thru ethernet cable, or though Powerline ethernet which uses your electrical wires as ethernet cables. There is no other magic solutions. Powerline is not gonna be handled by ANY cable company so you would have to do it yourself. If you don't want to see wires, your going to have to go wireless. Don't know what your issue is with wireless, but the choice then becomes who runs the wire, you or the cable company. If you run it, you get to decide how much effort is involved in making it pretty. If the cable company runs it, the guy doing the install is probably a subcontractor getting paid a flat fee for the install and is going to take the easiest route. There are no magic solutions. It's called Cable TV and Internet, not Magic Vaporware.

 

[QuietDad]

They cared enough to make it difficult in the beginning. Imagine the undertaking to enforce what you're talking about to all the residential installs currently in operation. lol, mind boggling.

Trust me I know. One of the things used to be when ever we added to an existing account, we had to "fix" it to today's standards. Nothing ruins your day more than having a work order to add a TV line to a bedroom on a system originally installed in 1973 and "modified" and split over the years by the homeowner. I was getting paid $15 to run a line and hook up a new HD TV. The rewiring of the house to "make it right" was free to the customer and I didn't get paid. If I didn't rewire the house the signal would be so weak the TV would pixalate and when QA came later, I'd be out of a job.

 

[SDLconnie]

Just bought a new home and we are closing in about 3 weeks. The home was built in 2011. My cable provider said that it would be an extra 10 dollars a month per room if i want to hard wire internet in another room. Is there a way to network the two computers without having to drill holes in the wall or using wireless? I am trying to figure a way to connect a line to two computers in separate rooms, eventually it'll be 3 computers in 3 separate rooms so the price per month just keeps going up.

I've read something about HPNA 3.0 and was wondering if that's a solution? Is it easy to setup or is there a different route I can take?

Hi GinormousNG- My name is Connie and I am with Suddenlink. I would be happy to research this further for you. Please email me directly at connie-AT-suddenlink-DOT-com. Thanks!