HELP! My new Radeon doesn't like my motherboard!

Pnutz311

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I just got a Radeon 64MB enginering sample. I installed the card and everything seemed ok untill I ran CounterStrike. The computer froze and wouldn't reboot. When I got back in I tried a few of the other ATI drivers out there. No luck. After every driver install I reinstalled the via 4-in-1s cause I heard that the install overwrites the GART drivers.

I am having no luck anywhere. I have an ABIT KA7 slot A. Can anyone help me out with the right combination of VIA and ATI drivers to make this card work?
 

maddmax

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Use the latest ATI and VIA drivers you can find. When the rage3d server comes back up, do a search in the forums for thread ID 5290. It will describe how to do a clean install of the drivers. I think the latest VIA agp driver is 4.04. If packaged as the 4 in 1, version= 4.27. For Radeon 7072's latest for 98/ME. For 2K 3073's I think. Correct me if I'm wrong
 

PeAK

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KA7 work fine but some of the KX133 chipsets problems need to worked around. Take a look at the link
 

Pnutz311

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I understand that only some KA7s have problems but what can I do if I have one of the board with the troubled chipset?
 

Spoooon

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I had an Abit KA7 a while back with a Radeon DDR. What AGP mode are you in? If you actually have 4x working, disable it in the BIOS. Install the AGP driver in turbo mode. Also, change the AGP driving value in the BIOS to 68(?) I think. You can check out Rage3D or search this forum for what the value is supposed to be.

edit: If you're going to do a clean install, just delete everything in c:\windows that starts with ati. As in del ati*.* Also, delete the inf file in the inf directory.

1. Go to add/remove programs and remove the Ati Display Driver.
2. Restart computer, then delete files as I said above.
3. Install latest drivers. (I used the 7068s)
4. Make sure that viagart and not atigart is installed.

edit: delete ati*.* in the c:\windows\system directory

edit: I checked and you are supposed to set the AGP driving value to 68.
 

Spoooon

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Just install the 4 in 1 drivers after you install the video card. viagart will be installed then.
 

maddmax

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Yes it is the same and can be downloaded in the 4 in 1 package or seperately. On some ATI driver installation packages ATI's atigart.exe overwrites the VIA viagart.exe. That is why ATI users with VIA chipsets choose to rename atigart.exe and disable atigart and/or atipolab in their startup menu.
 

silver24

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Had the same problem, i had to change my I/O voltage to i believe 3.5 and set the AGP control to DA and it worked great all my problems went away. Ill check on the I/O voltage when i get home, try these and email me at will24hsd@earthlink.net and let me know if it worked, and ill tell you how my bois is set.
 

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1). Uninstall your current ATI display driver. Do this by going into your control panel and running add/remove programs. ATI Display Driver should be one of the first few on your list. Choose yes when it asks if you would like to uninstall. Choose no when it asks to reboot.

2). Remove all leftover .inf files. Windows will use these to reinstall drivers (or at least try) without giving you an option for a clean install. To do this, you'll want to do a find all files/search, which can be accessed via the start menu. Windows ME has it labelled as search, and I believe Windows 9x has it labelled as find. In the search window, you'll want to enter ati*.inf as the target file. Don't bother making it search your whole hard disk, instead, under the look in field, type in C:\Windows\Inf, and make sure look in sub-folders is checked. Now your set, click find/search. Delete all files which it reports (make sure the location is c:\windows\inf or c:\windows\inf\other, do not delete ati*.inf files in other directories, just in case you chose to search your entire hard drive). Once you've completed the .inf flush, you're now ready to move on.

3). Reboot your computer. Windows will load with a default VGA adapter driver, which the ATI uninstall conveniently installs for you. Little do we know, ATI forgot to take out all the registry settings, ack! Here's what you need to do...

4). Run regedit. To do this, hit Start, click Run, and type regedit in the field and press Enter or hit OK. The windows registry entry will pop up. There are two sections you'll need to delete garbage from, the first one being the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE. Click the plus next to software and in the directory tree below it you will see a key labelled ATI Technologies, simply highlight this key and hit the delete key on your keyboard. Click yes to confirm removal when Windows prompts you. That will fix all previous tweaks you may have done, so you can ensure a fresh driver install at default settings. Now, on to the next key(s) you'll want to delete. WARNING! The following keys which I recommend you delete automatically assume you are using only one display adapter(video card) in your system. If you are using more than one, I will assume you are literate enough to know which keys can safely be deleted without mucking up your secondary adapter. Go to the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\DISPLAY, click the plus next to DISPLAY and you will see at least one sub key, normally labelled 0000. If your registry is dirty, you will likely see multiple keys, such as 0001, 0002, 0003, and so on. If you have only one video card in your system, it is now safe to delete every sub key of DISPLAY, including 0000. To do this highlight each key respectively and hit the delete key on your keyboard, click yes when Windows asks if you wish to remove the entry. Once you have deleted all keys, it is now time to close the regedit program and move on to the next step.

5). You will now need to go into your system device manager, which can be accessed in two ways. One, by right clicking on My Computer, clicking Properties, and then Device Manager in the following window, or you can access the device manager in your system Control Panel and double clicking on the System icon, and clicking Device Manager in the following window. Under Device Manager click the plus symbol next to Display Adapters, you will now see the Standard PCI adapter listed below. Highlight it and hit the delete key on your keyboard and click yes to confirm when Windows prompts you. It will then ask you to reboot your computer to finish removing the device, click no. Next step.

6). Extract/Unzip/Decompress your Radeon drivers of choice to a location which you will remember (I use C:\Windows\Desktop\Radeon). Once you have extracted the drivers, you can now reboot your computer to manually install them. I do NOT recommend using the ATI setup program to install drivers. When you reboot your computer, Windows will detect new hardware and ask if you wish for it to search for drivers. I always tell Windows where to search, and do not recommend you let Windows search automatically. Since Windows 9x and Windows ME vary slightly in this driver install process, I will assume you are familiar with basic driver installation and can handle pointing Windows to the directory which you extracted the drivers (i.e. C:\Windows\Desktop\Radeon for 7041 whql or C:\Windows\Desktop\Radeon\ATIDrive for all other driver packages). From here you may proceed to let Windows search the specified directories for the .inf file containing the driver install information, and the rest should be fairly self explanatory.

RECOMMENDED TWEAKS

I use and recommend Homer Simpson's RadTweak program, which can be found by searching these forums. I do NOT recommend other tweakers as of this time because they automatically create registry entries with the value set to 0, which will not always be correct for the best results. You should manually edit the registry to add tweaks not included in Homer's RadTweak. My recommendations:

ExportWBuffer=0
WFogEnable=0 (also enabled/disabled with RadTweak)

All other keys may be added according to your preference, I have found that messing with other settings tends to cause slower speed and/or graphical anomalies with some applications. To add my recommended keys you'll need to run regedit after you have finished installing the drivers and rebooting. You'll need to go to this reg key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ATI Technologies\Driver\0000\atidxhal. You may now choose to create new string value in the window pane to the right of atidxhal. Example: Right click in the right hand window pane of regedit, choose New, then String Value. A key will appear and you can rename it, ExportWBuffer, then hit Enter. Now double click the key and in the windows which pops up simply type "0" and hit enter. Value set. Problems solved.