Help me upgrade, I'm so noob :(

[Cappuccino]

That's a good card and very good brand, so don't hesitate if that's what you want. However, purchasing from a non-authorized reseller may shorten your warranty:

From EVGA


You may very well never have an issue with your card, but if you do, it would be nice to have the full warranty.

With that said, if you can find that card from an authorized reseller it would be worth a small premium (there is one reasonably priced on Amazon, but it's offered through a non-authorized third party). Still, you won't need an overclocked 660 Ti for 1080p, so I recommend getting the standard clocked card unless you are willing to take the risk. The card I linked earlier is sold by Amazon so you would have the full warranty.

I see thanks ;D
Btw I found this power supply at my local shop ATRIX Expert AX-500EXB ATX PSU - 500 W

is that worth getting? its cheap too. Im tempted to buy it. it £30. I want to make sure and ask you first.

 

[Piotrsama]

Why don't you just upgrade the graphics card and possibly the power supply (if its underpowered) first to see if its fast enough. The games you listed in the OP are quite old or aren't that slow even on older cpus/graphics cards.

I recommend that as well. GPU and PSU should be more than enough for starters.

I forgot to mention will fitting all the new parts into my pc earse all mt data? just wondering ;p

It won't erase your data, but if you change motherboard, you will have to reinstall Windows.

 

[MisterMac]

I see thanks ;D
Btw I found this power supply at my local shop ATRIX Expert AX-500EXB ATX PSU - 500 W

is that worth getting? its cheap too. Im tempted to buy it. it £30. I want to make sure and ask you first.

No it's not.


Id suggest you order from webhallen or komplett.


Komplett especially because they're the largest in nordics - and fairly fast and helpful on RMA's.


Note your budget your willing to spend - and we can configure something from komplett.se

 

[Cappuccino]

No it's not.


Id suggest you order from webhallen or komplett.


Komplett especially because they're the largest in nordics - and fairly fast and helpful on RMA's.


Note your budget your willing to spend - and we can configure something from komplett.se

Thats the only powersupply i can find in my local pc shops.

 

[MisterMac]

Thats the only powersupply i can find in my local pc shops.

Why can't you say if you can order from suggested sites - and\or your budget?


It's been asked many times.

 

[Cappuccino]

Why can't you say if you can order from suggested sites - and\or your budget?


It's been asked many times.

Because the one i found is really cheap and i was wondering if its worth getting.
my budget for a psu maybe under £50? but i can quickly grab that psu from the shops instead of waiting days or weeks to be delivered.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

I see thanks ;D
Btw I found this power supply at my local shop ATRIX Expert AX-500EXB ATX PSU - 500 W

is that worth getting? its cheap too. Im tempted to buy it. it £30. I want to make sure and ask you first.

Do not cheap out on the PSU! You are seriously risking damaging a lot of expensive components, and at the very least you may experience instability. It's not worth the risk. Look what an expert has to say about cheap power supplies:

Conclusion

We come at last to the end of our odyssey o'er the seas of mediocrity. It was hard to pick a winner among losers, but the clear leader of the pack would have to be the Delta DPS300-PB-1, if for no other reason than it actually still worked after we got done with it. A distant second place goes to the Yuelin built Powork unit, for making it the furthest in our competition before puking its guts out.

In last place, we have a tie. I couldn't decide which unit sucked harder between the Chiefmax and Real PC Power Silence Blue, so I hereby declare both of them the lamest PSU I've ever laid my hands on. Except maybe my old self immolating Deer from 2001, and even that one was better built in many ways. Not only are they completely unable to meet their ratings, they're argueably dangerous to connected hardware.

So, there you have it folks. It just doesn't pay to try and save that extra $50 on your build budget by buying cheaper power supplies.

That's from 2007, though is still quite relevant today. If you must save some money somewhere, buy a cheaper graphics card or CPU. You won't be losing quality, just a little performance.

 

[MisterMac]

Because the one i found is really cheap and i was wondering if its worth getting.
my budget for a psu maybe under £50? but i can quickly grab that psu from the shops instead of waiting days or weeks to be delivered.

Whats the point of grabbing something - if you dont know shit about it?


your acting like a 12 year old irrational person.


You just buy to get new - because your unhappy without actually knowing what your getting.



Sorry, but grow up.


Secondly, komplett takes 1 day in Denmark - id expect the same in Sverige.

And you dont ACCUTELY need a PSU.

 

[Cappuccino]

Whats the point of grabbing something - if you dont know shit about it?


your acting like a 12 year old irrational person.


You just buy to get new - because your unhappy without actually knowing what your getting.



Sorry, but grow up.


Secondly, komplett takes 1 day in Denmark - id expect the same in Sverige.

And you dont ACCUTELY need a PSU.

Thats why I asked AnonymouseUser first.
Grow up? grow the fuck up and do something in life then!
I know nothing about PC, hence why I'm here..

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Whats the point of grabbing something - if you dont know shit about it?

your acting like a 12 year old irrational person.

I think you're being a little harsh. The PSU market is not easy to understand for someone unknowledgeable in electronics.

SophieSmith, what you need to understand is that cheap power supplies are usually rated at peak power, where quality supplies are rated at continuous power. That cheap 500W PSU might do 350W continuous, which is too low for your system. On top of that, it won't have quality components inside, so it's voltages will fluctuate much more than a quality unit. This causes stability issues, and can burn out if run at 350W continuously. When it burns out, it can damage your motherboard, CPU, GPU, or anything else running off of it.

Do you really want to take that risk to save a few £? Seriously, don't risk it. The PSU I recommended can do 500W continuous, with peak much higher. There is a reason it costs more, and the cheap PSU may actually cost more in the long run.

 

[Cappuccino]

Do not cheap out on the PSU! You are seriously risking damaging a lot of expensive components, and at the very least you may experience instability. It's not worth the risk. Look what an expert has to say about cheap power supplies:



That's from 2007, though is still quite relevant today. If you must save some money somewhere, buy a cheaper graphics card or CPU. You won't be losing quality, just a little performance.

Thanks again! I will buy the one you linked me yesterday
Thank you so much for helping me out!
Can't thank you enough!
I will tell you when I get all my parts and whatnot.
See you soon. Thank you! xxx

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Thanks again! I will buy the one you linked me yesterday
Thank you so much for helping me out!
Can't thank you enough!
I will tell you when I get all my parts and whatnot.
See you soon. Thank you! xxx

You're welcome! And do keep me posted when it's built. Run a 3DMark test on your current system and on your new system, and post those results so we can see the improvement.

BTW, here is what the experts have to say about the Corsair cx430 (they didn't review the cx500, but it is similar):

So the CX430 is under $50, but it seems we get a pretty decent unit for the money. We get 430W worth of continuous power with no surprises. Limited ripple and noise, a quiet 120mm fan, active PFC and fully sleeved cables. Efficiency was a bit of a disappointment, especially since Corsair claims that their unit passed 80 Plus certification and Corsair is not a company like so many others that tend to submit a "modified" unit in order to pass testing. So overall, we don't have a great PSU, but we have a very good one.

snip

When we put this all together, we get a total score of 9, and thus the unit gets a "jonnyGURU recommended".

FWIW, the jonnyGURU is a mod here, for the Power Supplies subforum.

 

[Cappuccino]

You're welcome! And do keep me posted when it's built. Run a 3DMark test on your current system and on your new system, and post those results so we can see the improvement.

BTW, here is what the experts have to say about the Corsair cx430 (they didn't review the cx500, but it is similar):



FWIW, the jonnyGURU is a mod here, for the Power Supplies subforum.

Thank you!

Definitely we will stay in contact!
Anyway, my results http://www.3dmark.com/is/237231. No clue if it's good or not :awe:

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Thank you!

Definitely we will stay in contact!
Anyway, my results http://www.3dmark.com/is/237231. No clue if it's good or not :awe:

From a quick google search, that's not really a good score. We'll know better when you get your new system running.

Here are some results to compare your 78,000 Ice Storm score with, from Xbit labs. Based on that comparison (they use a $1,000 6-core i7), you can probably expect a score around 130,000 with the i5 and 660 Ti, a nearly 75% increase. Your Cloud Gate score should jump from 7600 to ~20,000, and Fire Strike should jump from 2000 to ~4500.

 

[Cappuccino]

From a quick google search, that's not really a good score. We'll know better when you get your new system running.

Here are some results to compare your 78,000 Ice Storm score with, from Xbit labs. Based on that comparison (they use a $1,000 6-core i7), you can probably expect a score around 130,000 with the i5 and 660 Ti, a nearly 100% increase. Your Cloud Gate score should jump from 7600 to ~20,000, and Fire Strike should jump from 2000 to ~4500.

hahaha!
I'm not surprised at all. :sneaky:

Yep, we will soon find out! Hopefully next week or so.

Btw, do you know why my back of my computer is soo hot when I play games? It seem when I play over 1 hour my pc turns into a BBQ. Is it my power supply generating the heat? Just curious. Oh and you think i should format my PC and start fresh when I get all my parts? Is that a good idea?

Thanks a bunch again! :biggrin:

 

[AnonymouseUser]

hahaha!
I'm not surprised at all. :sneaky:

Yep, we will soon find out! Hopefully next week or so.

Btw, do you know why my back of my computer is soo hot when I play games? It seem when I play over 1 hour my pc turns into a BBQ. Is it my power supply generating the heat? Just curious. Oh and you think i should format my PC and start fresh when I get all my parts? Is that a good idea?

Thanks a bunch again! :biggrin:

The CPU and GPU generate a lot of heat when you game, and without proper cooling will get hot like that. Your PSU may also be overheating, adding to the effect. Depending on how hot it gets, it may not even really be a problem. If the new parts overheat then you may need to add/replace some case fans to keep it cool. Make sure you've got space around the PC so it gets some fresh air, and don't place things on top of it. If it's inside a cabinet, leave the door open and/or open the rear of the cabinet if possible. Do you know how many case fans you have now? Are there any fans on the side panel? Do they blow from front/top/side to rear properly?

As for format and reinstall, yes, you should. If you were swapping to another AMD setup then you may not have to, but that isn't the case. Be sure to make backups of your important files!

 

[Cappuccino]

The CPU and GPU generate a lot of heat when you game, and without proper cooling will get hot like that. Your PSU may also be overheating, adding to the effect. Depending on how hot it gets, it may not even really be a problem. If the new parts overheat then you may need to add/replace some case fans to keep it cool. Make sure you've got space around the PC so it gets some fresh air, and don't place things on top of it. If it's inside a cabinet, leave the door open and/or open the rear of the cabinet if possible. Do you know how many case fans you have now? Are there any fans on the side panel? Do they blow from front/top/side to rear properly?

As for format and reinstall, yes, you should. If you were swapping to another AMD setup then you may not have to, but that isn't the case. Be sure to make backups of your important files!

Ahh, I see. Thanks !
Oh and I have a button next to the case and it turn on the fan.
oh and I have a side fan too.