help me spec out a new pc for myself

[zixxer]

title says it all. Newegg is the preferred place to buy this stuff,

 

[alimoalem]

ok i'll list the budget system you should get and the more expensive system you can consider. i think you should save a few hundred for upgrades down the road:

CPU: 3700+ ~$235, x2 4400 ~ $650 (i think)
MB: depends on if you'll be OCing...if so, DFI. the SLI version comes with a few upgrades so that could be considered or the Ultra
GPU: 6600GT for the true budget pc ($140), 7800GT ($300) for the next knotch up, or 7800GTX (~$450) for the one that wants to game
RAM: 2gb of OCZ ram for ~ $240 (not sure on that price) or 2GB of G.Skill Ram (~$140 per gig)
Optical: get a name-brand DVD-burner
HD: 250GB-500GB of the new WD Caviar 2 drive or the Samsung Spinpoint. any familiar name should be a good choice though. 250gb can be had at ~$115
if you really wanna go all out on the hard drive though, go SCSI and forget about Raptor. you can ge some pretty good deals in the FS/FT forum.

that ranges from cheapest of $900 to around $1800. you can use the remaining money for future parts

 

[zixxer]

 

[w00t]

Originally posted by: armatron
this if for a work pc. i can't 'save' money for future parts


i also need an lcd

lol, this guy over here is going crazy about video cards when this is a work pc. ok it would help if you could give me some info on some of the programs you use and how much storage you need.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: w00t

Originally posted by: armatron
this if for a work pc. i can't 'save' money for future parts


i also need an lcd

lol, this guy over here is going crazy about video cards when this is a work pc. ok it would help if you could give me some info on some of the programs you use and how much storage you need.

mainly premeire, sound forge, some photoshop.


storage isn't a huge deal.. hdd's are cheap. I'm more concerned about what mobo, cpu, ram, vid card.

 

[ribbon13]

edit: post removed and consolidated in a lower post

 

[Mik3y]

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Dual Core Processor $497
ASUS A8N-E nVidia nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard $111
OCZ Value Series RAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM PC-3200 CAS 2 $210
eVGA Geforce 6800GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI-E Video Card $209
2 Dell 2005FPW's and have them set up for dual display ~$800 after coupons

for the rest, you can decide.

 

[Mik3y]

btw, is this a work computer for home? Just wondering if you're going to overclock or not. if so, scratch the mobo and mem i have listed.

 

[w00t]

get two 2005fps's for its gonna help you in the long run.
a dual core processor like this one.
a good stable motherboard like this one.
a good quiet reliable psu like this one.
a nice case this one you can pick out but this one is nice.
two gigs of ram like this

I dont have a video card yet i want to know exactly what you are going to use this pc before i pick that out also if you want to do any gaming.

 

[TNM93]

Originally posted by: armatron
title says it all. Newegg is the preferred place to buy this stuff,

I would just go with a regular Pentium 4 630 or Athlon 64. Unless you absolutely need dual core, I wouldn't go all extravagant on the CPU for a work computer. However, if you decide to go dual core, the Pentium D provides decent bang for the buck as do the lower end X2's or dual core Opterons.

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: armatron
title says it all. Newegg is the preferred place to buy this stuff,

I would just go with a regular Pentium 4 630 or Athlon 64. Unless you absolutely need dual core, I wouldn't go all extravagant on the CPU for a work computer. However, if you decide to go dual core, the Pentium D provides decent bang for the buck as do the lower end X2's or dual core Opterons.

dual-core simply is a must in this case. with the type of work being done, he will really need the extra cpu bandwidth, especially since premiere is multi-threaded. and i hardly recommend intel's dual-core. they may have the cheapest dual-core, but its performance makes it still more expensive than amd if you compare benchmarks.

 

[w00t]

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: armatron
title says it all. Newegg is the preferred place to buy this stuff,

I would just go with a regular Pentium 4 630 or Athlon 64. Unless you absolutely need dual core, I wouldn't go all extravagant on the CPU for a work computer. However, if you decide to go dual core, the Pentium D provides decent bang for the buck as do the lower end X2's or dual core Opterons.

dual-core simply is a must in this case. with the type of work being done, he will really need the extra cpu bandwidth, especially since premiere is multi-threaded. and i hardly recommend intel's dual-core. they may have the cheapest dual-core, but its performance makes it still more expensive than amd if you compare benchmarks.

 

[TNM93]

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: armatron
title says it all. Newegg is the preferred place to buy this stuff,

I would just go with a regular Pentium 4 630 or Athlon 64. Unless you absolutely need dual core, I wouldn't go all extravagant on the CPU for a work computer. However, if you decide to go dual core, the Pentium D provides decent bang for the buck as do the lower end X2's or dual core Opterons.

dual-core simply is a must in this case. with the type of work being done, he will really need the extra cpu bandwidth, especially since premiere is multi-threaded. and i hardly recommend intel's dual-core. they may have the cheapest dual-core, but its performance makes it still more expensive than amd if you compare benchmarks.

Not really, it terms of price/performance, Pentium D scores higher than some Athlon X2s. And at this point, dual core over single core isn't that much faster, so it comes down to preference. An Athlon 64 3800 practically runs neck and neck wih dual core in Photoshop and Premiere according to Anand's review. Obviously, dual core is the future, since it has many benefits in multitasking, but if he wanted to save a few bucks and put it towards a better monitor, the performance hit wouldn't be that great, if at all.

 

[TNM93]

Originally posted by: w00t

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: armatron
title says it all. Newegg is the preferred place to buy this stuff,

I would just go with a regular Pentium 4 630 or Athlon 64. Unless you absolutely need dual core, I wouldn't go all extravagant on the CPU for a work computer. However, if you decide to go dual core, the Pentium D provides decent bang for the buck as do the lower end X2's or dual core Opterons.

dual-core simply is a must in this case. with the type of work being done, he will really need the extra cpu bandwidth, especially since premiere is multi-threaded. and i hardly recommend intel's dual-core. they may have the cheapest dual-core, but its performance makes it still more expensive than amd if you compare benchmarks.

I'm sure you quoting the other guy was helpful to the OP. :roll:

 

[Sforsyth]

$2500 what are you doing for work, making movies or video games? why not go for supercheap?

 

[TNM93]

Originally posted by: Sforsyth
$2500 what are you doing for work, making movies or video games? why not go for supercheap?

Exactly, but hey, I guess we are odd in that we think like that. He does some Photoshop and Premiere. People are suggesting he get dual 2005 FPWs, Geforce 7800 GTX, 120 dollar power supplies, etc.

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: armatron
title says it all. Newegg is the preferred place to buy this stuff,

I would just go with a regular Pentium 4 630 or Athlon 64. Unless you absolutely need dual core, I wouldn't go all extravagant on the CPU for a work computer. However, if you decide to go dual core, the Pentium D provides decent bang for the buck as do the lower end X2's or dual core Opterons.

dual-core simply is a must in this case. with the type of work being done, he will really need the extra cpu bandwidth, especially since premiere is multi-threaded. and i hardly recommend intel's dual-core. they may have the cheapest dual-core, but its performance makes it still more expensive than amd if you compare benchmarks.

Not really, it terms of price/performance, Pentium D scores higher than some Athlon X2s. And at this point, dual core over single core isn't that much faster, so it comes down to preference. An Athlon 64 3800 practically runs neck and neck wih dual core in Photoshop and Premiere according to Anand's review. Obviously, dual core is the future, since it has many benefits in multitasking, but if he wanted to save a few bucks and put it towards a better monitor, the performance hit wouldn't be that great, if at all.

we're not talking about typical speed from single core to dual core. we're talking about the extra bandwidth from the change. more cpu bandwidth means the system can perform better when other apps and programs are bogging down the system. in short, i'm talking about better multitasking. The smartest system build is designed to be at future proof as possible. Why build a computer just for today when you have the potential to make it perform even better later on without upgrading?

According to studies and benchmarks for Intel vs AMD dual core, AMD wins in roughly 28 out of 30. You have to take into consideration the comparison between the certain processors. If you want more proof, check out Anand's review, as well as the CPU/Processors category, which include far more detail in Dual-Cores. Workstation rigs do not matter too much into speed as it does bandwidth. Though he may not see or feel an increase in speed from going to dual core from single core, he surely will see it AND feel it when it multi-tasks.

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: Sforsyth
$2500 what are you doing for work, making movies or video games? why not go for supercheap?

Exactly, but hey, I guess we are odd in that we think like that. He does some Photoshop and Premiere. People are suggesting he get dual 2005 FPWs, Geforce 7800 GTX, 120 dollar power supplies, etc.

if he does hardcore video editing and photoshop for a living, multi screens would be far more advantageous than a single, say 24" screen, and for hte same price too. i agree with you on the psu and the video card. all you need is a simple and reliable psu. as for video card, it wont do jack sh!t. something basic will be fine, such as a 6600gt or 6800gs, depending on the display he'll get or already has. reason for choosing these video cards is for its large native res support, though he really doesnt need anything more than ingetrated gfx. obviously, its all well within his budget.

 

[Markfw]

I have both and benched them, and aside from the fact it is very hard to keep the 820d from throttleing, the 3800 blows the doors off of it in almost every benchmark.

X2, no contest....

 

[TNM93]

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: armatron
title says it all. Newegg is the preferred place to buy this stuff,

I would just go with a regular Pentium 4 630 or Athlon 64. Unless you absolutely need dual core, I wouldn't go all extravagant on the CPU for a work computer. However, if you decide to go dual core, the Pentium D provides decent bang for the buck as do the lower end X2's or dual core Opterons.

dual-core simply is a must in this case. with the type of work being done, he will really need the extra cpu bandwidth, especially since premiere is multi-threaded. and i hardly recommend intel's dual-core. they may have the cheapest dual-core, but its performance makes it still more expensive than amd if you compare benchmarks.

Not really, it terms of price/performance, Pentium D scores higher than some Athlon X2s. And at this point, dual core over single core isn't that much faster, so it comes down to preference. An Athlon 64 3800 practically runs neck and neck wih dual core in Photoshop and Premiere according to Anand's review. Obviously, dual core is the future, since it has many benefits in multitasking, but if he wanted to save a few bucks and put it towards a better monitor, the performance hit wouldn't be that great, if at all.

we're not talking about typical speed from single core to dual core. we're talking about the extra bandwidth from the change. more cpu bandwidth means the system can perform better when other apps and programs are bogging down the system. in short, i'm talking about better multitasking. The smartest system build is designed to be at future proof as possible. Why build a computer just for today when you have the potential to make it perform even better later on without upgrading?

According to studies and benchmarks for Intel vs AMD dual core, AMD wins in roughly 28 out of 30. You have to take into consideration the comparison between the certain processors. If you want more proof, check out Anand's review, as well as the CPU/Processors category, which include far more detail in Dual-Cores. Workstation rigs do not matter too much into speed as it does bandwidth. Though he may not see or feel an increase in speed from going to dual core from single core, he surely will see it AND feel it when it multi-tasks.

" Obviously, dual core is the future, since it has many benefits in multitasking, but if he wanted to save a few bucks and put it towards a better monitor, the performance hit wouldn't be that great, if at all."

Look at Anand's review in Photoshop and Premiere, the A64 3800 is neck and neck with X2. Why migrate until the benefits are greater and save money?

Did you not read that I said dual core offered advantages in multitasking? Nothing is future proof. Processor prices are always going down.

 

[Hacp]

6800GS-210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130258
4200+ (go 3800 if you are overclocking)-400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103547
Biostar Nforce 6100 Mobo-70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138269
OCZ value series memory- 74 AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227039
Antec Sonota with 380 watt Truepower PS-100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129127

BenQ DVD burner-40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827101651

Aopen Combo Drive-27
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106572

2x 2005FPS - 1000 dollars
MX1000- 40 dollars

As for keyboard/speakers, you decide

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: armatron
title says it all. Newegg is the preferred place to buy this stuff,

I would just go with a regular Pentium 4 630 or Athlon 64. Unless you absolutely need dual core, I wouldn't go all extravagant on the CPU for a work computer. However, if you decide to go dual core, the Pentium D provides decent bang for the buck as do the lower end X2's or dual core Opterons.

dual-core simply is a must in this case. with the type of work being done, he will really need the extra cpu bandwidth, especially since premiere is multi-threaded. and i hardly recommend intel's dual-core. they may have the cheapest dual-core, but its performance makes it still more expensive than amd if you compare benchmarks.

Not really, it terms of price/performance, Pentium D scores higher than some Athlon X2s. And at this point, dual core over single core isn't that much faster, so it comes down to preference. An Athlon 64 3800 practically runs neck and neck wih dual core in Photoshop and Premiere according to Anand's review. Obviously, dual core is the future, since it has many benefits in multitasking, but if he wanted to save a few bucks and put it towards a better monitor, the performance hit wouldn't be that great, if at all.

we're not talking about typical speed from single core to dual core. we're talking about the extra bandwidth from the change. more cpu bandwidth means the system can perform better when other apps and programs are bogging down the system. in short, i'm talking about better multitasking. The smartest system build is designed to be at future proof as possible. Why build a computer just for today when you have the potential to make it perform even better later on without upgrading?

According to studies and benchmarks for Intel vs AMD dual core, AMD wins in roughly 28 out of 30. You have to take into consideration the comparison between the certain processors. If you want more proof, check out Anand's review, as well as the CPU/Processors category, which include far more detail in Dual-Cores. Workstation rigs do not matter too much into speed as it does bandwidth. Though he may not see or feel an increase in speed from going to dual core from single core, he surely will see it AND feel it when it multi-tasks.

Obviously, dual core is the future, since it has many benefits in multitasking, but if he wanted to save a few bucks and put it towards a better monitor, the performance hit wouldn't be that great, if at all.

Did you not read that I said dual core offered advantages in multitasking? Nothing is future proof. Processor prices are always going down.

All this speculation is based on his budget, not on what we THINK should be his budget. And, of course, we all know that nothing is future proof, but there are smarter ways to make them last as long as possible.

 

[zixxer]

up for edit

 

[TNM93]

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: TNM93

Originally posted by: armatron
title says it all. Newegg is the preferred place to buy this stuff,

I would just go with a regular Pentium 4 630 or Athlon 64. Unless you absolutely need dual core, I wouldn't go all extravagant on the CPU for a work computer. However, if you decide to go dual core, the Pentium D provides decent bang for the buck as do the lower end X2's or dual core Opterons.

dual-core simply is a must in this case. with the type of work being done, he will really need the extra cpu bandwidth, especially since premiere is multi-threaded. and i hardly recommend intel's dual-core. they may have the cheapest dual-core, but its performance makes it still more expensive than amd if you compare benchmarks.

Not really, it terms of price/performance, Pentium D scores higher than some Athlon X2s. And at this point, dual core over single core isn't that much faster, so it comes down to preference. An Athlon 64 3800 practically runs neck and neck wih dual core in Photoshop and Premiere according to Anand's review. Obviously, dual core is the future, since it has many benefits in multitasking, but if he wanted to save a few bucks and put it towards a better monitor, the performance hit wouldn't be that great, if at all.

we're not talking about typical speed from single core to dual core. we're talking about the extra bandwidth from the change. more cpu bandwidth means the system can perform better when other apps and programs are bogging down the system. in short, i'm talking about better multitasking. The smartest system build is designed to be at future proof as possible. Why build a computer just for today when you have the potential to make it perform even better later on without upgrading?

According to studies and benchmarks for Intel vs AMD dual core, AMD wins in roughly 28 out of 30. You have to take into consideration the comparison between the certain processors. If you want more proof, check out Anand's review, as well as the CPU/Processors category, which include far more detail in Dual-Cores. Workstation rigs do not matter too much into speed as it does bandwidth. Though he may not see or feel an increase in speed from going to dual core from single core, he surely will see it AND feel it when it multi-tasks.

Obviously, dual core is the future, since it has many benefits in multitasking, but if he wanted to save a few bucks and put it towards a better monitor, the performance hit wouldn't be that great, if at all.

Did you not read that I said dual core offered advantages in multitasking? Nothing is future proof. Processor prices are always going down.

All this speculation is based on his budget, not on what we THINK should be his budget. And, of course, we all know that nothing is future proof, but there are smarter ways to make them last as long as possible.

To the degree that anybody recommends anything, we are speculating on what we think his budget should be. "Up" to doesn't equate with have "to".

Hey, you would go with an X2, I would go with something more modest for work and save money, to each his own. Most businesses still use single core for their employees.

 

[Markfw]

He gave a budget that more than allows for an X2, and for his apps, it is the way to go. Why are you trying to debate this ? Its not even his money, and it makes business sense.