Help me prove the old lady's mother wrong!

[reicherb]

Ok, so its time for the old lady to get a new car. I suggested buying a 5yr old Gand Am or comparable. Her mother said that was absolutely stupid and that she should by a brand new Toyota, or Honda (I can't remember) because it has a 10ys 10k warranty. Anybody that doesn't get that warranty is stupid.

Let's ignore for a moment whether a used car or new car is the right choice. Her mother bought a Brand new Aztec a couple of year ago. I'm not sure of the exact date.

Here is what I need help with. I believe that the Aztec has only been out a few years and came out at the same time as the 10yr warranties. If I can prove that the 10yr warranty was around when she bought the Aztec without a 10yr warranty that would make her stupid!

 

[HappyPuppy]

I would not, under any circumstances, take the advice of anyone who willingly bought an Aztec. They are one of the worst automobiles ever designed. To call them utter crap would be a compliment and to call anyone who bought one stupid would be a compliment, as well.

Don't let your mom in law run your life. She is obviously an ignorant, intrusive bitch.

 

[cjgallen]

I don't remember seeing the 10 year warranty stuff until recently. Next time she brings it up, just ask her up front what the warranty is on the Aztec.

Personally, I'd go with the Jerk Store comeback

 

[reicherb]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
I would not, under any circumstances, take the advice of anyone who willingly bought an Aztec. They are one of the worst automobiles ever designed. To call them utter crap would be a compliment and to call anyone who bought one stupid would be a compliment, as well.

Don't let your mom in law run your life. She is obviously an ignorant, intrusive bitch.

You've hit the nail on the head!

I was just hoping to make sure before I made the statement.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: reicherb

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
I would not, under any circumstances, take the advice of anyone who willingly bought an Aztec. They are one of the worst automobiles ever designed. To call them utter crap would be a compliment and to call anyone who bought one stupid would be a compliment, as well.

Don't let your mom in law run your life. She is obviously an ignorant, intrusive bitch.

You've hit the nail on the head!

I was just hoping to make sure before I made the statement.

You may want to forgo calling her a bitch to her face, or even to your wife's face, but there are other ways of conveying the message.

<------------been married 32 years with few inlaw problems.

 

[mugs]

Hyundai has the 10 year warranty, not Honda or Toyota. Aztecs suck.

 

[Vette73]

10 year warrenty has been around a while. I don't think any Toyota, GM, or honda cars/trucks come with one though.

The car companies that use the 10 year warrenty only do so as they have a bad image/quality. Like VW, Kia, etc...

But her choice makes no sence as a 3-5 year old gram-am can be had pretty cheap. While even a base model Civic will still run 12-13K easy. So comapring one to the other is not even close. Yes the new car comes with a warrenty but the used car can be had cheap and if you find a good deal on one that has been taken care of it will save you a pile of cash.

 

[homestarmy]

You're the stupid one. A Grand Am 5 years old is basically worn out junk.

The Toyota/Honda will still be running fine 10-15+ years later with basic maintenance.

 

[KevinH]

Wish my VW had a 10 year warranty. Sure could use it.

 

A 5 year old Grand Am will cost her lots of money on maintenance/repairs. A brand-new Toyota or Honda may end up being a better deal than a 1- or 2-year old Toyota, since resale values are so high on both makes and the difference between new and used is negligible. Additonally, the reliability will give her peace of mind, and you can't really put a price on that.

Personally, I'd go with a brand new Toyota or Honda. I just took delivery of a 2004 Accord LX 5-speed manual sedan in April under Edmunds' invoice price (LX 5-speeds are loss-leaders, basically) and I couldn't be happier with it.

 

[Brutuskend]

She bought a fricking Aztec, what further proof of her stupidness do you need??!?!

 

[reicherb]

Originally posted by: homestarmy
You're the stupid one. A Grand Am 5 years old is basically worn out junk.

The Toyota/Honda will still be running fine 10-15+ years later with basic maintenance.

Can you elaborate why a 5yr old Grand Am is junk and that any Toyota/Honda will be fine after 10/15yrs?

 

[SWScorch]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
I would not, under any circumstances, take the advice of anyone who willingly bought an Aztec. They are one of the worst automobiles ever designed. To call them utter crap would be a compliment and to call anyone who bought one stupid would be a compliment, as well.

Don't let your mom in law run your life. She is obviously an ignorant, intrusive bitch.

dude, I gotta give Assteks props. I think they're just as hideous as the next person, but I drove one for a week as a loaner when my car was in the shop, and let me tell you, they are really nice vehicles. The interior is very nice, well-designed, and pretty innovative, and they drive like a dream. While I had it, I used it to haul some of my grandmother's stuff as she was moving into a new house, and the removable seats made for a lot of storage space, and there are lots of cubbyholes in which to store even more stuff. It was so nice that I actually forgot that I was driving around in the ugliest piece of sheetmetal known to man.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: homestarmy
You're the stupid one. A Grand Am 5 years old is basically worn out junk.

The Toyota/Honda will still be running fine 10-15+ years later with basic maintenance.

typical japanese fanboism

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
I would not, under any circumstances, take the advice of anyone who willingly bought an Aztec. They are one of the worst automobiles ever designed. To call them utter crap would be a compliment and to call anyone who bought one stupid would be a compliment, as well.

Don't let your mom in law run your life. She is obviously an ignorant, intrusive bitch.

Quoted for truth. Anyone who owns an aztec that wasn't given to them for free has no credibility.

 

[lobadobadingdong]

e-mail Pontiac and ask.

The contact us link is all the way on the bottom of the page.

If I'm not mistaken though pontiac even now only currently offers a 7 year 100,000 mile power train warranty.

 

[PowerEngineer]

While I agree that no one should take car advice from someone who bought an Aztec, I'd have to agree with your mother-in-law(?) that either a Toyota Camry or a Honda Accord would be a much better choice than a Grand Am -- particularly when looking at "used" ones. (Even though none of them have 10 year warranties.)

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: reicherb

Originally posted by: homestarmy
You're the stupid one. A Grand Am 5 years old is basically worn out junk.

The Toyota/Honda will still be running fine 10-15+ years later with basic maintenance.

Can you elaborate why a 5yr old Grand Am is junk and that any Toyota/Honda will be fine after 10/15yrs?

Previous ... i guess you could call her my dad's girlfriend ... had a ~5 year old grand am and the engine just went... they replaced it under a used car warranty that she bought and didn't even tell her what went on it! Just completely out of the blue ENTIRE ENGINE RUINED!!

And... my girlfriend's CRX is still running perfectly after over 210k miles, its 16-17 years old! The biggest problem it's had was a slow leak in a brake hose, and a stripped out bolt to drain the oil. Both cheap fixes and the latter was because of some idiot cross stripping the bolt!

 

[MtnMan]

Oh and if the mother-in-law is proved right because something expensive happens with the Grand Am, you will never ever hear the end of it. She may even have it in her will that this be pointed out at her funeral.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: MtnMan
Oh and if the mother-in-law is proved right because something expensive happens with the Grand Am, you will never ever hear the end of it. She may even have it in her will that this be pointed out at her funeral.

bwhahaha yeap.

but she is right. buying a 5 year old Pontiac will cost a lot over the years.

While a new honda is going to be expensive (why not look at a 3-5 year old accord?) it is a better choice. Not just for maintance (will be cheaper in the long run) but the resale value of the Honda is going to be way better then the Pontiac.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: homestarmy
You're the stupid one. A Grand Am 5 years old is basically worn out junk.

The Toyota/Honda will still be running fine 10-15+ years later with basic maintenance.

typical japanese fanboism

Correct, this is anandtech.
:roll:

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: reicherb

Originally posted by: homestarmy
You're the stupid one. A Grand Am 5 years old is basically worn out junk.

The Toyota/Honda will still be running fine 10-15+ years later with basic maintenance.

Can you elaborate why a 5yr old Grand Am is junk and that any Toyota/Honda will be fine after 10/15yrs?

I can't link it but that is pretty much what the reliability ratings for used cars at Consumer Reports says as well. The only Toyota on the "to be avoided" list is the 2003 4Runner (V6) and the only Honda is the 1998-1999 Passport. There are quite a few Pontiacs including 1996-1997, 1999-2001 Grand Am.

 

[Squisher]

Why so many people saying Azteks suck when they don't?

Every review of the Aztek has given it relatively good marks on everything you want out of the vehicle.

The only problem with the Aztek is that it has to one of the ugliest vehicles ever made.

Amazing the herd-mentality here.

 

[db]

You can't reason with anybody who buys an Aztec.
Chill out and disengage.

 

[db]

Ok, let's get real.
This is about more than cars. It's about who has influence with your wife. All her life, until you came along, it was probably her mother. This is a classic situation. You are now her partner, and she is supposed to have cut the apron strings and grown up; IOW mommy &amp; daddy shouldn't have the sway they used to cuz your wife/old lady is no longer a little girl under her parents roof.
But if you want to have any credence, you can't be coming up with crap recomendations like a 5 year old Grand Am (damn. WTF?). On second thought, maybe she should listen to her mother.