Help me piece together my system?

itpromike

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Looking for a decent sub for under $300 and speakers for under $200 (each)... piecing together my setup (moving away from a sound bar) and I'm buy my AVR soon (Denon X4000) and thereafter I'll be purchasing 1 more piece each month. My budget is:

Sub - $300 or under
Center - $300 or under
All other speakers - $200 or under

Emphasis on the "or under" part LOL. Any suggestions?
 

mdram

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im in the process of doing something similar
went with a denon x2100 for avr
i just purchased a klipsch sub12hg from frys for 199, it was a 1 day special, but happens every week or 2

i chose to go infinity primus for speakers.
the p363 were onsale for 115 each from amazon
havent bought a center yet, looking at the pc351 for 199
you can get alot of good info over at avsforum.com, they can point you to internet direct resellers
 

razel

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I assume your HT is in a normal sized living room so just forgo the waste of money center channel and direct that money to better left and rights. If so then I recommend:

main L/R - NHT Super0 2.1 ($100) or NHT Super1 2.1 ($150)
surrounds - Orb Audio ($125) or Boston SoundWare XS ($70) SoundWare ($100)
sub - under, in or behind-couch DIY sub/amp (JL Audio Thin subs/enclosure prebuild from ebay + partsexpress plate amp)

By the way the original Super1's back in the mid 90's was one of the cheapest speakers in Stereophile's Recommended List. I still have mine and are still jaw dropping. The sub also will not total $300, but with the money saved from no center channel, you'll be getting a REAL sub that will play well into the 20hz and can aim directly at your butt and will move you like a transducer. The surrounds you'll definitely want to diffuse their sound by placing a decoration in front of it or aim it backwards against a wall.
 
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itpromike

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I assume your HT is in a normal sized living room so just forgo the waste of money center channel and direct that money to better left and rights. If so then I recommend:

main L/R - NHT Super0 2.1 ($100) or NHT Super1 2.1 ($150)
surrounds - Orb Audio ($125) or Boston SoundWare XS ($70) SoundWare ($100)
sub - under, in or behind-couch DIY sub/amp (JL Audio Thin subs/enclosure prebuild from ebay + partsexpress plate amp)

By the way the original Super1's back in the mid 90's was one of the cheapest speakers in Stereophile's Recommended List. I still have mine and are still jaw dropping. The sub also will not total $300, but with the money saved from no center channel, you'll be getting a REAL sub that will play well into the 20hz and can aim directly at your butt and will move you like a transducer. The surrounds you'll definitely want to diffuse their sound by placing a decoration in front of it or aim it backwards against a wall.

Interesting, I hadn't heard that before about ditching the center channel if I'm in a typical living room setup. What's the reason behind it? I'm not contesting validity, just trying to understand more about this stuff.
 

razel

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Main reason, I already stated. If you listen to ALOT of music off your HT, you'll definitely want two great L/R speakers and you'll have more budget for it.

Living room center channel speaker placements are universally terrible as well. Often low and flush in a nice centerpiece furniture and horizontal, instead of the ideal vertical on a stand. Living rooms also are MUCH smaller than theaters, so you really don't need that many speakers to recreate the same sound environment. Yes, sound mixers make slightly different mix for video releases. However with the AWESOME Dolby Atmos/DTS:X object based codecs, the difference of mixes will disappear. If they want, they can give us the same exact mix and the receiver will process it down to the amount of speakers and where they are located in your home. It actually more matches what 3D video games have been processing audio since Quake I.

Additionally last 10-15 years, power from your typical AVR is beyond weak. Luckily if you use it to power one less speaker, you'll be getting more power and power headroom for your other speakers. The other side of that argument is the center speaker is where most of the sound is and without one you'll instead be powering two speakers to play the same content instead of one.

However if you have a better half there's no argument. Be happy she's even letting you have HT speaker setup... so show some love back and go no center channel. :D.
 
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BurnItDwn

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I have this sub and it has been very good to me. Usually you can find it under $300.

it is several years old, so, there may be better designs out there nowadays, and might be better bang for the buck, but might be worth putting on your list of considerations.

http://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B00OFXV5IO

Here are 48 pages of reviews and comments on av science forum about the PL200 sub.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...ic-acoustech-h200-subwoofer-aka-pl-200-a.html
 

itpromike

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I have this sub and it has been very good to me. Usually you can find it under $300.

it is several years old, so, there may be better designs out there nowadays, and might be better bang for the buck, but might be worth putting on your list of considerations.

http://www.amazon.com/Bic-Acoustech-PL-200-Subwoofer-Black/dp/B00OFXV5IO

Here are 48 pages of reviews and comments on av science forum about the PL200 sub.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...ic-acoustech-h200-subwoofer-aka-pl-200-a.html

Ooooh that does look promising.