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[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: Andrew1990

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Hmm I never noticed my athlon X2 slow down in any game, except for crysis.

It all really depends on what he is expecting from his system. If he plays at 1280x1024 and doesnt play the most demanding games, he doesnt need the most up to date processor.

well its not like your pc is going to come to a screeching halt but yes a decent core 2 duo would make a huge improvement over an X2. sometimes you have to find out for yourself like I did. anyway if he is going to build a new pc there is certainly no need to even consider an A64 X2 cpu. Phenom X3 or X4 for amd and E8400 or Q9400 would be arond the range I would look at at if the budget isnt too tight.

I agree with this, especially with the new Phenoms or Intel equivalent. He may even be able to find a Q8200 deal at a Frys if he looks hard enough. They seem to go pretty cheap with a POS ECS Board.

Yep. My Q8200 came with the ECS G31T-M. Not a bad board at all, but its not a good overclocker i'm sure. I also bought a GIGABYTE EP45-DS3L. I picked this combo for $189.99 even when it wasn't in the ad. Ad days this might be in the $130's.

 

[Andrew1990]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Actually, if you get a decent clock on it it will run even crysis at decent fps. If he is going to run the source engine and perhaps even the Unreal 3 engine games, then it should run fine as long as he doesnt overstress the settings.

My friend was running a 3700+ before he got his Phenom II and he played crysis on it along side a HD4870. Now I must say I was surprised at that.

well he should have his examined for sticking a 4870 in there with a single core cpu. lol. he may have "played" Crysis but I bet he had minimums in the single digits at times and did not even average much over 20 fps no matter how low the settings. http://www.gamespot.com/features/6182806/p-6.html

also he certainly would not have been able to play games like Far Cry 2 or GTA 4 because the cpu is vitally important there. a decent gpu can never make for an old and slow cpu but of course you know that. its all about having a balanced machine if gaming is your thing.

Actually more like 24fps and dips down into the mid teens at 1024x768 mostly high settings. I was there watching him play it with fraps enabled. He also used it as a temp till he got his phenom II.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Andrew1990

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Actually, if you get a decent clock on it it will run even crysis at decent fps. If he is going to run the source engine and perhaps even the Unreal 3 engine games, then it should run fine as long as he doesnt overstress the settings.

My friend was running a 3700+ before he got his Phenom II and he played crysis on it along side a HD4870. Now I must say I was surprised at that.

well he should have his examined for sticking a 4870 in there with a single core cpu. lol. he may have "played" Crysis but I bet he had minimums in the single digits at times and did not even average much over 20 fps no matter how low the settings. http://www.gamespot.com/features/6182806/p-6.html

also he certainly would not have been able to play games like Far Cry 2 or GTA 4 because the cpu is vitally important there. a decent gpu can never make for an old and slow cpu but of course you know that. its all about having a balanced machine if gaming is your thing.

Actually more like 24fps and dips down into the mid teens at 1024x768 mostly high settings. I was there watching him play it with fraps enabled. He also used it as a temp till he got his phenom II.

heck I could average in mid to upper 20s with a mix of med and high settings on a wimpy 8600gt and mediocre 5000 X2 at 1024x768. we all know that a 4870 is a little bit stronger than my 192sp gtx260 so I ran Crysis benchmark with a mix of med and high settings(water and texture) at 1024x768. this should hammer home to people just how silly it is to use a 4870 with an single core or even wimpy dual core cpu. you said he was in the mid 20s well check this out to see what difference a decent cpu can make. thank goodness he has a decent cpu now.

!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 23.07s, Average FPS: 86.69
Min FPS: 55.54 at frame 1988, Max FPS: 118.61 at frame 118
Average Tri/Sec: 64056496, Tri/Frame: 738928
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.24