Help me find a cheap NAS device?

mi1stormilst

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Can some one point out where I can purchase a cheap NAS device that supports SATA drives? I would like one that supports very large drives. Dual drives for RAID 1 would be awesome but I can settle for a single unit for now.

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Atheus

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The cheapest you will get is a second/third hand PC running a free operating system.
 

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Originally posted by: mi1stormilst
Originally posted by: Atheus
The cheapest you will get is a second/third hand PC running a free operating system.

I asked for HELP finding a NAS device...


Well, you said:
Can some one point out where I can purchase a cheap NAS device that supports SATA drives?

Atheus recommended what is going to be recommended by many on this forum.

Basically.. you put together a cheap system. The CPU can be low end. Throw a bunch of hard drives in it, and load up FreeNAS. This is a free operating system that is based off of FreeBSD 6.x. Whatever hardware support FreeBSD 6.x has, then FreeNAS will support it.

You'll then have a web interface just like all those fancy, expensive name brand NAS devices and it will function just like one, since essentially that is all those commercial NAS devices are.

 

jlbenedict

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Thecus 2-Bay SATA NAS Enclosure

Port / Connector 2 x 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet Port
3 x USB 2.0 (480Mbps)
Supported Protocols TCP/IP
SMB/CIFS, HTTP/HTTPS, FTP
Processor Intel IOP 80219
Capacity 2 x bays of 3.5" SATA HDD
80/120/160/200/250/300/400/500GB or Above
RAID RAID 0/1 JBOD
LEDs Power LED, System LED,
Network LED x 2, Hard drive LED, x 2
USB one copy button LED
Power AC 100~240Volt, 50/60Hz
Dimensions 7.9" x 6.3" x 3.4"
Weight 2.87 lbs. (including power adapter and cord)
 

mi1stormilst

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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Thecus 2-Bay SATA NAS Enclosure

Port / Connector 2 x 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet Port
3 x USB 2.0 (480Mbps)
Supported Protocols TCP/IP
SMB/CIFS, HTTP/HTTPS, FTP
Processor Intel IOP 80219
Capacity 2 x bays of 3.5" SATA HDD
80/120/160/200/250/300/400/500GB or Above
RAID RAID 0/1 JBOD
LEDs Power LED, System LED,
Network LED x 2, Hard drive LED, x 2
USB one copy button LED
Power AC 100~240Volt, 50/60Hz
Dimensions 7.9" x 6.3" x 3.4"
Weight 2.87 lbs. (including power adapter and cord)

That is not cheap...wow
 

mi1stormilst

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Originally posted by: Atheus
The cheapest you will get is a second/third hand PC running a free operating system.


I appreciate your suggestion but it is something I have done in the past, I don't have any extra components and I am just looking for a sub $100.00 NAS device.
 

Genx87

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Quick question, does FreeNAS allow for NTFS volumes? Or are you required to use an application like SAMBA?
 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Quick question, does FreeNAS allow for NTFS volumes? Or are you required to use an application like SAMBA?



Looks like FreeNAS has half-@$$ NTFS support:

FreeNAS support in the current release:

Filesystem: UFS, FAT32, EXT2/EXT3, NTFS (limited read-only)
Protocol: CIFS (samba) , FTP, NFS, SSH, RSYNC and AFP
Hard drive: ATA/SATA, SCSI, USB and Firewire
GPT/EFI partitionning for hard drive bigger than 2TB
Networks cards: All supported by FreeBSD 6 (including wireless card!)
Boot from USB key
Hardware RAID cards: All supported by FreeBSD 6
Software RAID 0, 1 and 5
Management of the groups and the users (Local User authentication and Microsoft Domain)

 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: mi1stormilst
That is not cheap...wow

They are expensive, that's why I recommended what I did.

I asked for HELP finding a NAS device...

Don't be an a$$hole, I _was_ trying to help. A low power PC is the best way to do these things if you don't want to break the bank. It doesn't have to be cumbersome or anything - think about all the small form factor cases available and the cheap integrated motherboards that go in them...

If that's not what you want then fine, you just had to say so.
 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: mi1stormilst
That is not cheap...wow

They are expensive, that's why I recommended what I did.

I asked for HELP finding a NAS device...

Don't be an a$$hole, I _was_ trying to help. A low power PC is the best way to do these things if you don't want to break the bank. It doesn't have to be cumbersome or anything - think about all the small form factor cases available and the cheap integrated motherboards that go in them...

If that's not what you want then fine, you just had to say so.

Exactly... and then throw this on it: FreeNAS
 

mi1stormilst

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: mi1stormilst
That is not cheap...wow

They are expensive, that's why I recommended what I did.

I asked for HELP finding a NAS device...

Don't be an a$$hole, I _was_ trying to help. A low power PC is the best way to do these things if you don't want to break the bank. It doesn't have to be cumbersome or anything - think about all the small form factor cases available and the cheap integrated motherboards that go in them...

If that's not what you want then fine, you just had to say so.

Now your calling me names, hey were did you punks come from and who let you in here? If you can't be more professional then that I don't need your "suggestions" if you can provide a link to a CHEAP nas please do so.

 

mi1stormilst

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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: mi1stormilst
That is not cheap...wow

They are expensive, that's why I recommended what I did.

I asked for HELP finding a NAS device...

Don't be an a$$hole, I _was_ trying to help. A low power PC is the best way to do these things if you don't want to break the bank. It doesn't have to be cumbersome or anything - think about all the small form factor cases available and the cheap integrated motherboards that go in them...

If that's not what you want then fine, you just had to say so.

Thanks

Exactly... and then throw this on it: FreeNAS

I did say so ... "CHEAP" being the key word here. I have explained I do not have extra PC parts now, I need links to cheap NAS products if you know of any. I have one suggestion to build a PC and run open source NAS software, and another suggestion to a rather expensive NAS device. Can anyone do better?


 

Trey22

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Have you even tried searching for NAS units yourself or did you just waltz in here assuming everyone was going to do your homework for you? If you have searched, post some links.

Do you have any of the drives you wanna stick in the NAS device, or will you buying them? Are you looking for a unit that comes with drives?

I've been waiting for Netgear to release new firmware for their SC101 since it is buggy as hell. It would fit your definition of cheap, but getting it to work reliably for your application is a crapshoot.

My current solution is to buy a Linksys NSLU2. This works for me since I already have an external USB hard drive or two that I can attach to this device and convert them to network drives.

IF you decide to go with a cheap PC, then Fry's Electronics has a basic PC for $129. Just add storage. I'm not sure if the same deal is available on Outpost.com or not.

Cheers,

Trey
 

mi1stormilst

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Originally posted by: Trey22
Have you even tried searching for NAS units yourself or did you just waltz in here assuming everyone was going to do your homework for you? If you have searched, post some links.

Do you have any of the drives you wanna stick in the NAS device, or will you buying them? Are you looking for a unit that comes with drives?

I've been waiting for Netgear to release new firmware for their SC101 since it is buggy as hell. It would fit your definition of cheap, but getting it to work reliably for your application is a crapshoot.

My current solution is to buy a Linksys NSLU2. This works for me since I already have an external USB hard drive or two that I can attach to this device and convert them to network drives.

IF you decide to go with a cheap PC, then Fry's Electronics has a basic PC for $129. Just add storage. I'm not sure if the same deal is available on Outpost.com or not.

Cheers,

Trey

Yes I have searched and I have seen many of the well known units, including the Netgears and various other models/brands. I was hoping that someone would have knowledge of a lesser known, cheap, reliable, feature rich product. I am just bleeding the communities knowledge and experiance since that is what forums are for...last time I checked.

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=377&sec=0

http://www.netgear.com/products/details/SC101.php

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=795&cid=4

http://www.trittontechnologies.com/products/TRINSS001.htm

I hope to find some others to compare.

I did just recently come across this comparison chart at TOMS:

http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2006/07/19/networked_storage_charts_intro/

Still I am hoping for advice from someone with hands on.

 

EKKC

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you cant be unrealistic and then say people are unhelpful. a $100 NAS is hard to come by. a cheap SOHO Maxtor 300GB 100mbps PATA NAS that I have cost me 250 dollars when I bought it last year. a 250GB Iomega PATA NAS drive form CompUSA cost about 100 bucks the other day and sold out like hotcakes. and that one didnt even have great reviews.

its like asking "find me a 20 dollar processor" and you get advices to go to ebay for a cheap Pentium 3, and you say, "you're not helpful, i wanted a cheap conroe extreme edition."

 

unclebud

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does bestbuy have anything of interest?
they have some nas drives, me don't know/too lazy to find out if they sata
use the 30% off "back to school" coupon found in the boxes around the store
gl hth
 

JustSomeDude

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Dude, don't cheap out. Data security is too important. I recommend Infrant's X-Raid based systems. Expand as you go. works flawlessly
 

bigpow

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I'm also looking for a cheap NAS box, mi1stormilst

Just ignore these beligerant smart-a$$ - they don't know what they're talking.
They probably looked up all those fancy NAS box via google and pasted the info here.
I'm willing to bet, they don't own all those things they mentioned.

Too bad people that actually use & own NAS boxes won't care enough to post their comments here.

So far, Iomega StoreSumthing seems to fit the bill (last time there was a deal at CompUSA, $70 with 160GB HDD).
Then, there are those external HDD enclosure with Ethernet ports (cheapest one I saw was $40) - mind you, that you'll probably have to manage everything by hand.
(----> compgeeks.com)
There are also those Media Center Box (you can install a 3.5" HDD in them) and hook them into the network.
(----> ebay & various other e-retailers)

BTW, some of these would also serve as a print server (really2 nice feature to have)


EDIT: Links for those cheap NAS boxes

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DX-3535-BU&cat=CAS&cpc=CASbsc
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=NETDISK-35&cat=CAS
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HD363N&cat=CAS

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5-HDD-LAN-Enclosu...3QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and tons other

The big question is, r u willing to try?
 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: bigpow
I'm also looking for a cheap NAS box, mi1stormilst

Just ignore these beligerant smart-a$$ - they don't know what they're talking.
They probably looked up all those fancy NAS box via google and pasted the info here.
I'm willing to bet, they don't own all those things they mentioned.

Too bad people that actually use & own NAS boxes won't care enough to post their comments here.

So far, Iomega StoreSumthing seems to fit the bill (last time there was a deal at CompUSA, $70 with 160GB HDD).
Then, there are those external HDD enclosure with Ethernet ports (cheapest one I saw was $40) - mind you, that you'll probably have to manage everything by hand.
(----> compgeeks.com)
There are also those Media Center Box (you can install a 3.5" HDD in them) and hook them into the network.
(----> ebay & various other e-retailers)

BTW, some of these would also serve as a print server (really2 nice feature to have)


EDIT: Links for those cheap NAS boxes

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DX-3535-BU&cat=CAS&cpc=CASbsc
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=NETDISK-35&cat=CAS
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HD363N&cat=CAS

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5-HDD-LAN-Enclosu...3QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and tons other

The big question is, r u willing to try?

The OP mentioned something along the lines of the possibility of having 2 drives for RAID.. therefore.. all of these products are crap

 

randomlinh

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heh, if you find something... let me know.. my NAS box is too clunky. and 4 drives at raid 5 is more power hungry than a single 300GB drive (i really don't need raid-5... i was just bored for the most part.. ha).

does anyone have any input on the interfaces of these different things.. for instance, can I create user accounts... or am I just asking too much from a cheapo single drive nas unit?-
 

bigpow

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Originally posted by: jlbenedict

The OP mentioned something along the lines of the possibility of having 2 drives for RAID.. therefore.. all of these products are crap

Everything except the Iomega, that is

Anyway, this is a though crowd to please - so I'll take back my crap with me :)

I'm even thinking about Linksys Sluggo at this point, since I don't really care about RAID
 

dawks

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I'm looking for something along these lines. Basically we have a server up and running right now for user profiles, but we need more space. Rather then spending thousands of dollars on a small amount of SCSI storage, we were hoping to spend much less on much more using external drives, in RAID, connected via USB2. Since they are just user profiles, speed isnt a huge issue, since we are limited to our 100mbit network anyway.

If anyone knows of some good external USB2 boxes that can do raid with PATA or SATA drives, let me know, thanks! We looked at one model (can't remember which it was), but people on CNET were giving it fairly bad reviews, so we avoided it.