Help me find a capacitor please :)

[xSeongminx]

Well, I had someone look over the card and try to reapply the capacitor to the board but it was just too small, and since the legs had been broken, there was no way to solder or fix the capacitor to it's origional state. However, he did do a test using a multimeter and everything checked out, so all we need is a capacitor with the following rating...

+226C
53 1HL

http://www.angelfire.com/blog/test206/video_card/

Thanks in advance, and the person who finds it will recieve a little "gift" in the form of paypal.

 

[Goi]

Kinda hard to see since the picture is so small. What did Sapphire say though?

 

[xSeongminx]

That they wouldn't replace because it is a physical problem. Kind of weird if you ask me... Maybe I should contact them again in hopes of getting a different response? Also, from the picture, can you see if it is a transistor? I'm really not sure what it is.

If you click on the picture, it enlarges it xP.

 

[xSeongminx]

Up for some help please!

 

[Rashean700]

did you tell Sapphire all of you info cause if not just send the card to them and tell them that it's not working and after they find the problem they may replace it but the key is letting them find it

 

[Doctorweir]

Solder it back on...
But as it is a SMD unfortunately not too easy to do...
You got a semi-professional solderer among your friends or a electronics repair shop nearby? They should be able to fix it...

EDIT: Pretty lame from Sapphire btw...if you did not apply excessive force to this transistor, it is clearly a manufacturing error (bad soldering)... :roll:

 

[xSeongminx]

Originally posted by: Rashean700
did you tell Sapphire all of you info cause if not just send the card to them and tell them that it's not working and after they find the problem they may replace it but the key is letting them find it

What do you mean by "letting them find it?" Sorry, just wasn't clear to me. Also, I believe that soldering will work but the residue that is used for soldering has broken off of the ends of the transistor, meaning that even if I try soldering the transistor back on, it might not make contact with the thin layer metal piece inside the transistor, making it useless. It's worth a shot, but I just want to know if there are any other viable options, such as buying a resistor from the hardware store and soldering that on. LMK and thanks for the comments guys.

 

[Killrose]

From the pic it appears that it is cold soldered on one end, but its hard to see foe sure. If they are going to replace it under warranty, that is a for sure fix.

 

[xSeongminx]

Originally posted by: Killrose
From the pic it appears that it is cold soldered on one end, but its hard to see foe sure. If they are going to replace it under warranty, that is a for sure fix.

Are you saying that they are going to repair the card and then send it right back or that they should cover it under warrenty? LMK.

 

[JAG87]

#1 its not a transistor, its a resistor.
#2 have you tried the card the way it is? 95% chance it will work, but the card's life might be impaired quite a bit. I would try and send it to a repair shop, where they have proper tools to solder such small components, but I advise you that will void any warranty that the card has.

and lastly, #3 why in hell did you talk to sapphire, those people are LAME. Call the ATI support center, and RMA the card with ATI. They will either fix it for you, or send you a new one.

 

[xSeongminx]

Originally posted by: JAG87
#1 its not a transistor, its a resistor.
#2 have you tried the card the way it is? 95% chance it will work, but the card's life might be impaired quite a bit. I would try and send it to a repair shop, where they have proper tools to solder such small components, but I advise you that will void any warranty that the card has.

and lastly, #3 why in hell did you talk to sapphire, those people are LAME. Call the ATI support center, and RMA the card with ATI. They will either fix it for you, or send you a new one.

Didn't know that ATI would cover products that aren't created by them (not BBATI). I thought that the function of the transistor and resistor was the same, which is why I called it a transistor because it is smaller. Thanks for the help. I'll call ATI right now.


EDIT: Just found this... https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894

Check that your product is a Retail-Packaged* "BUILT-BY ATI"
* Please note that OEM, Partner and System Builder products (eg. DELL, Sapphire, Connect3D) are not eligible for Warranty Service from ATI.

 

[xSeongminx]

Literally, screw Sapphire as they are being dicks about it. None of their numbers work and they don't even have a good email support.

 

[xSeongminx]

RMA(Althonmicro) to me
More options

Dear sir,

RMA dept. can not accept physical damage card, so we can not do RMA service for you.
Your card is physical damage that manufacturer will not accept it.

If you have any questions, please email me back.

Thank you

Best regards,
Giselle Ku/ RMA dept.

And this my friends, is a video card company that will never ever be able to convince me to buy a card from them again.

 

[JAG87]

sucks for you...
i RMA a sapphire 9800 pro and ATI sent me a new built by ATI 9800 pro... lol

but i do understand their physical damage thing, its assumed that you damaged it somehow, and that is not covered by the warranty. only malfunction is covered, and worksmanship.

 

[bdww00]

just tell another person that u dont know what happened it just didnt work one day and u tried another sapphire vid card and it worked

 

[route66]

Do you have a better picture? Looks like you're circling a capacitor.

 

[xSeongminx]

I took a picture using my phone (bad lighting) but you should be able to see what I'm talking about. I didn't even think about saying that the card doesn't work, and that I would like to sent it in... That's smart, and I actually may give it a go. However, if they find out, what will happen?

 

[pdo]

I think one of the first thing manufacturers do when they receive an rma is do a visual inspection and decide if it's a customer induced damage(any physical damge) or vendor's induced damage(burned components). And this looks to be your fault. If you're anywhere in So-Cal I can help you solder it back on.

 

[xSeongminx]

I found someone to help me but I actually got this card for free . Just trying to see if it will revitalize.

 

[Born2bwire]

Judging by the photo, that's a capacitor, but it's really hard to tell. I'm guessing it's a cap from the white band to denote orientation in the highlighted photo. Plus, since it is yellow on your board it sound more like a cap. You can easily order a replacement capacitor (probably even the same make and model) from digi-key and solder it on. You should be able to find out what the value, type, and make of the capacitor that you have from the markings. But unless you have experience with SMD, you will probably have a hell of a time doing it. Only problem is that the digikey order will probably cost a buck or two (depending on how small a unit they sell) but unless you can bump the order up to like $20 you'll be charged a handling fee (but that's pretty much par for the course with any of the parts suppliers). If you do solder it on, be mindful of the orientation.

EDIT: A lot of time capacitors in digital circuits are usually not used in the signal path itself, usually they're used as something like prechargers. So the card may "work" without the cap. Personally, I wouldn't try it myself.

 

[xSeongminx]

I'm having someone solder it for me. Btw, what's the worse that could happen (I want to lay all of this out before the soldering is done)?

Btw, the only thing that is worrying me is that the capacitor is supposed to have metal (I'm guessing for soldering purposes) pieces coming out of both ends, but they have been broken off, so from soldering, the iron would be used as a conductor of some sort. Sigh, I guess time will tell.

 

[Killrose]

There are no "tabs" so to speak on the ends of those, as the are soldered to the PCB trace directly on the silver colored ends. They will take quite abit of heat with no problem and it don't take but 5sec worth of heat to solder them.

 

[fbrdphreak]

I'm pretty sure those are resistors.

Have you tried it? I remember one came off on my 6800GT and never had a problem...

 

[xSeongminx]

Card has been given to the person helping me out. I won't be able to test till I get back home from school. If it works, I'll be the happiest kid alive .

 

[xSeongminx]

Btw..., DON'T EVER BUY FROM SAPPHIRE!!! Oops..., caps lock was on...