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Hmm.. my possibility of OC'ing probably heated up this thread. I don't know what you guys mean by this HTT 340 but most likely I won't push CPU to it's full potential OC capable. If HTT 340 is highest it can be achieved, I'll probably aim for 60% of that (which is I have no clue on your HTT value system)

Having said that, I want a stable motherboard and seems either ASUS (A8V delux), EPOX are good choices. I think I'll get 3500+ since i'm not aiming for HTT 340 or whatever. I get Winchester, not Newcastle, right?? (I'll get retail for now and get HSF later when I'm ready to tinker with OC)

As for the memory, can any of you point me (link would be nice) 1 gig RAM for this setup? Do I get 1 stick of 1 gig or 2x 512mb? I want to leave room if I need more down the road (or should I get 2 gig now?)

Thanks always
 
Originally posted by: drteddy
Hmm.. my possibility of OC'ing probably heated up this thread. I don't know what you guys mean by this HTT 340 but most likely I won't push CPU to it's full potential OC capable. If HTT 340 is highest it can be achieved, I'll probably aim for 60% of that (which is I have no clue on your HTT value system)

Having said that, I want a stable motherboard and seems either ASUS (A8V delux), EPOX are good choices. I think I'll get 3500+ since i'm not aiming for HTT 340 or whatever. I get Winchester, not Newcastle, right?? (I'll get retail for now and get HSF later when I'm ready to tinker with OC)

As for the memory, can any of you point me (link would be nice) 1 gig RAM for this setup? Do I get 1 stick of 1 gig or 2x 512mb? I want to leave room if I need more down the road (or should I get 2 gig now?)

Thanks always


You want to get two sticks of 512Mb as you will want to utilize the dual channel (basically you will affectivily double you band width 2x pc3200(3.2Gb's) - 6.4Gb's somthing like that as apposed to pc3200 3.2Mb's when using one 1 gig stick (A64' have dual mem controller as apposed to the S754's having one mem controller)

summary: get either 3200+ winchester or 3500+ winchester, and use 2x512Mb matched pair RAM, using two sticks to utilize dual channel will heavily improve performance, bearing in mind that if you intend to use 4 sticks of ram in the future you will have to drop down to mem speeds of ddr333 pc2700 what a bummer 🙁.

i would highly recommend you get some OCZ 2x512Mb plat rev2 to go with your rig (basically as you are not looking to OC just yet you will want some ram that is capable of 2-2-2-5 timings, there are a few makes out there OCZ, Corsair, Geil, kingston .. and they all use the same samsung TCCD chips trust me good buy😉 )

Summary: either one of those makes depeneds on what mobo you opt for (depends on best compatibility), making sure of the samsung TCCD chips at 2-2-2-5 (these can overclock very well, so if you do end up getting these you can see somthing like 250Mhz - 50Mhz OC "ddr500" at timings of about 2.5-3-3/4-7 which is very good, and might i add future proof in the OC sense.

i would personally recomend that you get an msi k8n neo2 plat but then again, that is because i have got one and am totally happy with it (not dising the other mobos but just dont have any experience with them).

Also PSU (power supply unit) the enermax 380W will def do the trick even when (if) you do overclock. If you intend to upgrade you GFX card in the near future you might want to look at maybe a 450W PSU, but that depends if you were to get a power hungry Nvidia 6800 Ultra...

Anyways that is my advise and i hope it helps in anyway possibile.. 😉
 
Rich, your views on dual channel are dead wrong. Actually, the exact opposite is true. Dual channel is a good thing, but will only give you a few percent increase in performance. Also, RAM timings don't matter much to an A64 due to the on die memory controller.

939 Memory Matrix
 
Originally posted by: Amaroque
Rich, your views on dual channel are dead wrong. Actually, the exact opposite is true. Dual channel is a good thing, but will only give you a few percent increase in performance. Also, RAM timings don't matter much to an A64 due to the on die memory controller.

939 Memory Matrix

Amaroque - Please explain because how understand it, Dual Channel is effectivily double the bandwidth due to having to mem controllers, i cant be bothered to go into it as i guess you must already understand.. but please justify your claim!

 
Originally posted by: Rich85
Amaroque - Please explain because how understand it, Dual Channel is effectivily double the bandwidth due to having to mem controllers, i cant be bothered to go into it as i guess you must already understand.. but please justify your claim!

Actually, the thread I linked to above will answer a lot of your questions. Dual channel will double your bandwidth in benchmarks, but that does not translate to any real world performance increase. Basically, the A64 is not using that added bandwidth. Also, RAM latency doesn't matter much to the A64 because of the efficiency of the on die memory controller.
 
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