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Help me build rig around this cheap ass board I got

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Holysmoke36

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Got a 20 dollar board from outpost

Gigabyte GA-8I945P-G 775 1(16x)PCIe;2PCIe;3PCI 19.90


It supports 800 and 900 pd's.

Can you guys tell me what to buy.

I am not a gamer so I need a budget pci e card, ram, cpu. I have hard drive and case. Is a 300 watt psu enough or do I need a new psu?

Thanks
 
Not sure about your 300w PSU, thats probably pushing it. What brand, and what is the 12v rail rated at? Does it have a 24pin connector, and the 4pin ATX connector?

As for the CPU, definatly DON'T get an 8xx series, they run much much more hot than the 9xx series. Don't know what your budget is, but 930 or 940 wouldn't be bad, 6200TC or x1300 or x1600 video card. Don't know what you are doing with the machine, but I usualy don't go less than 1gb of ram. PQI memory works well for me, so maybe 2x512mb of PQI PC4200 DDR-2. Fortron PSU's are great for the price. 400-450w Fortron gets my recomendations as well. I think I paid $40 for my 400w Fortron I am using with my pentium-d 920.
 
I think I should get new psu and will get the fortron you mentioned. pqi is good idea too. will get a 930 cpu and use stock heatsink and fan.

I found an x800 pro for 89 refurb with 3 year warranty from ati, so I think that might be good card
 
PCI-E GPU: 6600GT is a fantastic card and very cheap - will play all games (albeit, newer ones not so well...kicks ass until you get beyond DOOM3 tho...), but, more importantly for you I suspect, will handle all HDTV resolutions - which a lower spec card prob wont - and supports dual monitors and TV out.

RAM: 2 x 512 MB Geil RAM - very solid budget RAM sticks here, come with rather pretty arctic blue metallic heat spreaders (if you like pretty looking things). No-nonsense, reliable RAM - although don't try to run them faster than stock or they will flake out on you. If you plan on overclocking they are ok, you will just need to use a RAM divider (if you can).

CPU: If you're on an odscenely low budget, you could pick up a Celeron D very cheaply - though I wouldn't recommend this as there is better processing power in my calculator 😉. For a bit more money there's the pd 805 which clocks in at 2.66Ghz per core (2x1MB cache). This will offer rather mediocre performance I should think, but it can be overclocked quite easily and, if you're not gaming or using CPU-intensive software, it will happily cope with any everyday task you may want to throw at it with a hell of a lot more snap than the Celeron.

Hard-drive: What will give you a noticeable boost in everyday performance will be a nice new shiny SATA disk (if you don't already have one). Get yourself a 120GB+ disk (these are cheap at the moment too) and pop your O/S on there for a bit of extra space and performance.

PSU: I would recommend 400W or more. Although 300W will probably handle the hardware I suggested, a bit more power will give you some headroom for overclocking (should u choose to) and future upgrades.

Hope this helps!
 
You should probably upgrade your PSU, especially if you plan on using a Smithfield. Personally I would suggest a PD 805 (since it looks like you want to keep costs low) and get a good watercooling solution (http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/12/your_diy_gaming_rig_for_720/page3.html for WCing an 805). 805s OC quite well, and at 4ghz they perform excellently. For a graphics card, you don't need anything too exotic, so you could look around for an old card, like a 6200 w/ TC or maybe even a 6600 or 6600GT. Those cards shouldn't cost you over $70, and the 6200 shouldn't cost you more than $50, especially if you get it used.
 
really helpful posts. I will def not buy a celeron. either 805 or 930 I think. I should have bought that microcenter aiw x800xl for 129.


where can I get a 6600 gt cheap?
 
Originally posted by: Holysmoke36
plz comment on this card

http://www.microcenter.com/byos/byos_si...roduct_results.phtml?product_id=234750
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Nice - but I agree with bamacre: you don't need to spend that much! I would get a decent-ish vid card tho, purely so you can enjoy HD video and dual monitor /TV out support. Its worth it for a few extra bucks! I personally recommend the 6600GT from experience and it should be cheaper than the one you suggested, and just as capable for what you'll be using it for
 
6600GT's at Newegg 🙂

Although 7600GS are better
7600GS at Newegg

Yes, Intel will be dropping prices, but really late in the year, after Conroe's launch. Don't know if it is worth it for you to wait. I think you save $30 on an 805 or something but you have to wait for that....

Since you are not in a hurry (like me 🙂) you could sell that to someone or on ebay. You can build a system right now if you want, but it's your call. Personally I think you should wait
 
I so want a conroe. Just another SD purchase I didn't need, but a board for 20 dollars was hard to pass on.

I'll just build this now and a conroe rig in fall.

I have 4 kids so I will eventually need 6 computers. :shocked:
 
Originally posted by: guoziming
You should probably upgrade your PSU, especially if you plan on using a Smithfield. Personally I would suggest a PD 805 (since it looks like you want to keep costs low) and get a good watercooling solution (http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/12/your_diy_gaming_rig_for_720/page3.html for WCing an 805). 805s OC quite well, and at 4ghz they perform excellently. For a graphics card, you don't need anything too exotic, so you could look around for an old card, like a 6200 w/ TC or maybe even a 6600 or 6600GT. Those cards shouldn't cost you over $70, and the 6200 shouldn't cost you more than $50, especially if you get it used.
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how do you keep costs low by water cooling? 😕
 
Originally posted by: Holysmoke36
Originally posted by: guoziming
You should probably upgrade your PSU, especially if you plan on using a Smithfield. Personally I would suggest a PD 805 (since it looks like you want to keep costs low) and get a good watercooling solution (http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/12/your_diy_gaming_rig_for_720/page3.html for WCing an 805). 805s OC quite well, and at 4ghz they perform excellently. For a graphics card, you don't need anything too exotic, so you could look around for an old card, like a 6200 w/ TC or maybe even a 6600 or 6600GT. Those cards shouldn't cost you over $70, and the 6200 shouldn't cost you more than $50, especially if you get it used.
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how do you keep costs low by water cooling? 😕
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:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: arcenite
Originally posted by: Holysmoke36
Originally posted by: guoziming
You should probably upgrade your PSU, especially if you plan on using a Smithfield. Personally I would suggest a PD 805 (since it looks like you want to keep costs low) and get a good watercooling solution (http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/12/your_diy_gaming_rig_for_720/page3.html for WCing an 805). 805s OC quite well, and at 4ghz they perform excellently. For a graphics card, you don't need anything too exotic, so you could look around for an old card, like a 6200 w/ TC or maybe even a 6600 or 6600GT. Those cards shouldn't cost you over $70, and the 6200 shouldn't cost you more than $50, especially if you get it used.
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how do you keep costs low by water cooling? 😕
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:laugh:
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by overclocking an 805 to 4ghz, then getting a $150 WC kit to keep it stable. Total costs is ~$280, and it performs much better than anything else you can buy for that price.
 
Originally posted by: Holysmoke36
but to get 4 ghz with 805 I thought Tom used premium board and premium ram, I am using value ram and cheap board
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Yep, they used a premium board, a very big and expensive power supply, water cooling, and a dangerously high voltage. My 805 runs at 3.7ghz on 1.45v, and hits about 57c under load with a Scythe Ninja. Not many people are getting 4ghz.
 
Originally posted by: Holysmoke36
but to get 4 ghz with 805 I thought Tom used premium board and premium ram, I am using value ram and cheap board
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Choosing the right chipset for this overclocking project is easy: all chipsets that support dual core processors command a FSB that runs at least at 200 MHz, which also means that any of them can support the Pentium D 805. We were able to successfully implement our overclocking project, in fact, using the following motherboards from Asus and Gigabyte:

Asus P5WD2-E Premium (Intel 975x)
Asus P5WD2-WS Premium (Intel 975x)
Asus P5WD2 Premium (Intel 955X)
Gigabyte G1975X Turbo (Intel 975X)
Gigabyte 8I955X Royal (Intel 955X)
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I'm not sure how expensive those boards are, but even if you are using value ram, you should still be able to get up to fairly high speeds (at least 3.4). Actually, if you can't get up to 4.0ghz anyway, then you don't need to get the WC kit. In any case, the 805 still overclocks really well. I was just stating it's potential.

edit: anyway, here's the link to the article where he ran through the overclocking hoops. http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/10/dual_41_ghz_cores/ . Another thing to be wary of - the 805 consumes lots of power, so you might want to make sure the PSU can handle the wattage load. In the article link above, there's also a power usage graph for comparison.
 
thanks for the info. I think the 805 is more trouble than I want to invest in. I have no experience with water cooling. I live in florida and the 805 has been described as a space heater.
 
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